Selkie writes, regarding the stereotypes of the various signs…
“…lots of Scorpios are harsh people who actually greatly enjoy judging others (even people they’ve never even met or talked to); insist on playing seemingly inexplicable games with people for years on end; take pleasure in seeing “certain” (or “certain sorts of”) people punished, and in freezing out the “unworthy,” and who are stubborn to the point of harming both themselves and others – even the people closest to them.”
The comment is out of context so check yourself if it offends you. I wanted to address the phenomena of Scorpio freezing people out. It definitely happens and it’s never been addressed on this blog.
I have been frozen out by a Scorpio. Though I’m not a Scorpio, I have enough in the eighth house I can do a pretty mean impression of one. I’ve learned to freeze people out myself. The act is an act but I would argue the motivation.
Though games are played and Scorpio withholds to manipulate and so forth, most times when Scorpio freezes someone out… amputates I would say, it is almost always an act of self-preservation. I learned this the hard way, which is probably the best way. Here’s the story:
Some years ago I had a Scorpio pal; we were friends, not lovers. He was educated and generous with me. He shared his knowledge, told me jokes, listened to me, kept me cheered and just in general supported me in many ways. He was an outstanding friend and while I always appreciated him, I taxed him greatly. I was immature at the time. I was high maintenance and I just didn’t seem to be able to understand his agony although it was expressed.
He was Jupiter rising like I am and people think we’re buoyant to the core when this is simply not the case. But anyway, he told me and told me and told me that he was suffering, but I just kept coming. I cringe when I write this but whatever. This is what I did and eventually he pulled the plug.
And he didn’t just pull the plug, either. He wrote me a passionate letter to let me know he had thought long and hard about what he was going to do. He said he had been up nights tossing but felt he had no choice but to let me pass… he just could not deal with me.
He apologized though there was not one reason why he should have, other than he knew I would feel feel pain due the separation. And he said nothing at all derogatory. He simply stated his truth. He was in pain and he felt he needed to isolate himself so he could work things through.
This was a number of years ago. I came to understand his position. You can be a kind, generous person and he was. He was mentor type and I know he liked me and valued the interaction as much as I did at one time but I was killing him. I was pretty much his entire inner circle, and while it was not my intention, I was sucking the life right out of the guy. In hindsight I would say I was freakishly greedy and insensitive and in short, this was a friend I deserved to lose.
I have since learned to consciously amputate myself and when I do I always recall the example this guy set. I make sure there is no other option because while I know the other person is going to bleed, I think it comes back on you twice as hard. In other words, though I don’t know, I’m pretty sure his pain was beyond my own.
It’s so painful when this happens in my life I don’t ever want to reattach to anyone who has pushed me to the edge where I had to detach. I just don’t trust them which is the same thing that happened with my friend. I know because I rattled his cage now and then for a number of years. He never responded and I know why. But here’s the point I want to make:
I could go on and on and about how cold this guy was shutting down the way he did. Pooooor Elsa. But fact is I did something that provoked his actions. Matter of fact I did one hundred things that provoked his actions. I’d just say if you find yourself amputated by Scorpio, you might want to check your own stuff. This is especially true if you know them to be an above board type.
Because Scorpio doesn’t (generally) explain, it’s easy to call and consider yourself their victim when you’re anything but. People are human and they have their limits and so many people ask to be cut. They beg and beg for it. They won’t stop until they’ve completely done you in and when you finally make a defensive strike, this is their cue to cry injury. Whatever. I have little sympathy. I have seen the movie only about a million times.
Have you ever been frozen out by Scorpio? Or if you are Scorpio (or a reasonable facsimile) have you ever felt yourself forced to amputate? How’s this feel on your end?
I’ll do/take amputation over gangrene anytime and no other acceptable treatment is available. Just use clean sharp tools and do it fast and do it well.
And a modicum of explanation is called for everyone’s sanity -unless the person is absolutly off their rockers.
I am not a scorpio but my 8th is busy with my mostly placid Taurus Sun. Merc and Venus.
Oh and fuzzy or nebulous approaches are probly the least efficient, painfree ones.
I just had a Scorpio guy who I was dating for five months do to this to me and its just plain cowardly. The good part of him he was supportive and focused on us but then again he was secretive and cunning and never took responsiblity for his bs. I tried to break it off with him recently(I am a Sag with a Pieces moon and Cap rising and have a venus in scorpio) bc of his non committment issues. He sucked me back in, made me think he wanted to work out said he wanted to reveal how he really about how he feels..only to freeze me out! Ugh… What a waste of time! Not a good friend, boyfriend or anything who does that to a person. We could have remained civil. Scorpios will suck the life out of you and try to mind**** you at the same time. His “feelings” and “issues” were way more important than mine. Completely self absorbed..Never again! Thanks for letting me vent!
Sounds very very similar to my situation with dealing with a scorpio.
Besides this one had a girlfriend who he said was over and wanted to move on from her and start new.
I knew he had feelings for her still, but he made it clear to me they were not going to get back together and I was willing to help him through it and the many other issues he had. For more than 3 months he led me on saying he found the right one and a whole lot of other bs. So I started sensing he was waiting on his “ex” &would ask him about it more often. Told him to tell me whats real so we won’t waste each others time and energy and each of us can go do something else but he continued it reassuring me to be patient with him ect. So I was like ok.
Not 2 1/2 weeks later after speaking to him a night before, he broke communication with me, and not only that but did it through the girlfriend.
Waste of time on unevolved scorpio trash. Spineless and most of all cowardly. He wanted the upper hand instead of being a man about it when I confronted him about us splitting up.
This isn’t speaking of the mature scorpio who knows how to be a man. They are priceless.
Would it be OK to make a distinction between ‘evolved’ and ‘unevolved’ Scorpios? Define evolved as spiritually attuned. Unevolved somewhere below earthworm. An unevolved Scorpio is possibly the worst type of human to encounter.
I’d suggest the issue isn’t how cruel Scorpios are, but rather how to detect the difference. A spiritual Scorpio can be of great benefit to one.
I offer this only because I come from a bit of Scorpio and although I could ignore others’ suffering at their hands because I know how to deal with the bast#@d Scorpios, I feel compelled to provide some navigation.
I instantly detect a Scorpio’s spiritual orientation and ignore the earthworm variety while draw near the phoenix variety. Even another Scorpio luxuriates in the presence of a transcendent Scorp.
P.S. My post isn’t intended to cause more controversy around those dang Scorpios but rather provide some road-side assistance.
This all reminds me of the Tom Cruise – Nicole Kidman split. He’a a Scorp rising, and she was quite vocal about how he just ended it, no warning, no nothing, and she said he never told her why. Closed the book.
I’ve been amputated by a double Scorpio friend. No warning at all. She just stopped all communication one day. She used to try to solve all my problems for me. It was weird, she used to take responsibility for things that weren’t hers to take. I certainly did not want her to, but she always seemed so worried about taking care of things. I don’t know if that’s a Scorpio trait, but control certainly is.
I actually had that happen one other time too. No Scorpio in her chart, but she had Mars rising in Taurus square Pluto exact. All her friends were Scorps though. Out of the blue one day she told me she didn’t want to be my friend anymore. Via email. It was good timing, as I was having a hard time with her negativity, so it was all for the best, but I still was not expecting her to ‘break up’ with me.
I have a male friend with no Scorpio except Saturn in Scorp on the Dsc and he has amputated many people in his life. Every single one of his siblings to be exact. All for different reasons. He says he has no problem closing the book on people.
I agree, an integrated Scorpio is a glorious thing to behold. It’s a rather rare thing to find however, but they are out there.
actually makes me think of two relatives of mine. an aunt and uncle. both scorpios. The aunt spent two years in seclusion a good 10 years ago and came out of it this beautiful person with some amazing kindness and very giving. My uncle on the other hand has been dealing with drug and alcohol abuse since his teenage years. Has yet to clean up his act.
She is amazing to just be in the same room with and he will bring down a whole family gathering.
I met my Scorpio Sun, Moon, Venus when I was 15 years old. We started off as just playing around like teenagers. By the time we were 18 we had begun a more mature and intimate relationship. My Scorpio was (and still is) very ambitious so school was the be-all and end-all of his early twenties. However, while he clearly told me not to wait for him and that I should find someone to love me, I only used other men as emotional bookmarks until my Scorpio found his way back to me. Now, he tells me that he has met someone (we are about 22-23 years) and he is completing his BA in Biology. He begins to talk about the future. Suddenly the woman is pregnant. When the baby is born he comes to me. I do not get pregnant although had I, I am not sure he would have married me anyway. The next year she gets pregnant with baby number two and he comes to me to tell me. I have not gotten pregnant yet. Time passes and I realize that my youth is going fast but I do not make the move for another six years. However, when I do my move is to another state altogether. I realized that being accessible to him was my downfall. He finally marries her and well he has started in on his masters degree…..I do the unthinkable one day by calling the office — leaving a message with the receptionist “to tell him that his wife called.” This was a Thursday late afternoon. By Friday evening he had called and asked had I left the message. Yes. Well off went the kid gloves and he flat out told me never to do that again and further never to refer to myself as his wife. I told him to f***k off and hung up the phone. He called about 15 times that evening and each time all I did was answer the phone saying the same two words and hanging up. By midnight I needed a drink. I unplugged the phone. That was the last time I spoke to him. He never came over to talk me into staying or to try to comfort me. I lived in that apartment for another four years and he never came there once in that time. I met my present husband, and we have been married for 18 years. Fast forward to October 25, 2009. I had a feeling about my ex and something about all of the deaths this year got to me. I knew his mother’s address and mailed a birthday card to her care hoping she would give it to him. I did not write my postal address — only the city and state. On November 2 he emailed me using the one I wrote inside the card. The first thing he said to me was “I have been looking for you for years.” He claims he hired a private investigator which cost him lots of cash but he never found out anything about me. Here’s the thing…he thought (1) that I was dead or (2) that I was in jail. I can’t figure out why he would think that at all ! Go figure. Well, we talk more and email some. Finally, the calls and emails stop in week two (beginning November 9). In week three I learn that he is in Medical School and getting his PhD. All of my emails go unreplied and none of my voice mailed are returned. Week three (Thanksgiving), I ask how we are supposed to learn about each other after all of this time if we don’t communicate. He states that “people don’t change.” In the next breath, though, he says “I don’t really know you, though do I?” So, I say, if people don’t change then I am the same person you claim I am your claim that you don’t really know me is a gross contradiction. He says, well…”I don’t know…but I have to get ready for school.” We hang up and I deleted my Yahoo account with that email address.
“I realized that being accessible to him was my downfall.”
Honey you said it yourself. And Benjamin Franklin said an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure.
Go figure 😉
18 years later! Some things are better left alone.
I hope this is the end of that for you. Like been there, done that says.
By the way, I am Cancer Sun, Capricorn Moon and Scorpio rising !
OK, been browsing through this extended trailer of Scorpio love/hate relationship comments, opinions and points-of-view, but this one by “First Degree Burn” on April 30/08 takes the cake, like OMG:
“When people hurt you, betray your sacred trust or abuse your love and friendship, the thing to do is hang around the sidelines in the shadows for awhile. Let them think that you froze them out by making yourself somewhat scarce, yes, but remain everpresent and in control behind the scenes. Your spirit lingers. Your invisible presence and ominous energy remains unscathed. Your ghost succumbs to wreaking continual havoc veiled in at times subtle, at times outrageous, activity executed at inopportune occasions.
For it follows that when these offending parties expect you to freeze them out, you are doing them a favor by doing so. This is not revenge, this is foolishly fulfilling their expectation!
The evolved Scorpion never plays to another trumpeter’s tune. A true lone wolf, the Scorpion marches to the beast (beat) of his own drummer. They devise their own strategy and avoid the obvious. They lurk in the shadows of subtility and seductive selective madness.
The whole idea is that your traitors and abusers feel false security in thinking you will not bother with revenge and that you will forget the matter by simply “freezing them out.”
No, as a bonafide certified triple Scorpion (quadruple if you include my ascendant) I believe the best way to deal with such horrible people is to torment them. Aim below the belt. Knife behind the back. Get them where they deserve it, when they least expect it.
Get these mortal offenders so paranoid, they are constantly expecting you to pop out of the shadows and out of the murky water like a gator lurking in the slime of their subconscious ready to devour.
This is the time to disappear and do more important things and carry on with your life with more worthy individuals. You can always return to check up on the abhorrent offenders at a later date and more convenient time. At which point you can monitor their stress and anxiety-o-meter and devise an even more poisonous and deadly arrow to hit the mark, again, waiting for the moment they least expect it.
This cycle can continue for however long you wish. Remember, the true Scorpio is a master of manipulation and control. I will never date or ask a Scorpio woman out for this reason. No matter how attractive or sensual or sexual she may be it is simply not worth the headache.
And because she is a woman, she will beat the Scorpio man at his own game as she is master of it. Women do not play fair. To the male mind, the female response is entirely emotional and frequently irrational. Simply put, she will catch you off guard and manipulate you to fulfill her own pleasure in beating you at your own game.”
Poor lowly Scorpions, nothing better to do with their lives than exact revenge for slights real or imagined. Have fun, y’all, I’ll be out here being happy and doing cool stuff.
Del-
I am a true scorpio woman. Scorpio sun & moon. You have completely misunderstood. If someone slights me, and I had respected them previously-it’s only FAIR they get a taste of their own medicine. One of the best feelings in life is respecting yourself and not being anybody’s door mat-at least for me. I have frozen MANY people out-including my own mother. If someone brings me pain and tears-they aren’t worth a lick of my time. I’ve also done the fake freeze out as I bide my time to let my stinger go haywire. I have certainly taken revenge on lovers who have done me wrong and I will get down and dirty to see to it that someone gets to taste the same pain they fed me. Not only that-I have the decency to WARN men I am vindictive before they ever feel my ire. If they choose to get me so angry I want to “sting” them then that is a choice they made on their own.
There is no healing-there is no peace until I have avenged wrongs done to me. This isn’t only my sign-it’s my past. I was taken advantage of HORRIBLY as a child and I never want anyone to have that power over me again. The moment it feels like someone has that power-I can’t heal until I’ve taken charge of the situation and delivered the appropriate sting to their transgression. The smartest thing someone can do once they realize they’ve hurt a Scorpio is to apologize and mean it as quickly and as fervently as possible. You may avoid my sting if you do that. The freeze out is usually phase one before I really deliver my final blow. I like it when people don’t see it coming. I dislike hurting anybody who has hurt me.
You get what you give. If you hurt me I will hurt you back. If you love me and are there for me, I will love you and be there for you back in anyway I can. When that code of honor is broken, all bets are off. Once I’ve delivered revenge THEN I go out and be happy doing cool stuff. Bad feelings last MUCH longer for me when I don’t take action to return the pain someone has caused me. If I think a freeze out will hurt the other person the most-I leave it at that. If I know you have a weakness that would hurt you more than that-depending on your transgression I will go after that. If I feel like you’ve hit some sort of middle ground with hurt-I will take the middle ground revenge.
Only after I’ve vindicated a hurt can I completely heal and then remove that person from my life permanently. I’ve had people who couldn’t deal with my intensity but after they lost me in their life-they missed the love and loyalty they had from me-and they wanted me back in their life. If you couldn’t realize the great friend/lover you had in me before-I won’t trust you to actually realize it later.
Very few people are beyond being stung in my life. Only those who have gone through hell for me can get away with committing a transgression against me.
You may think all that is lowly but I live my life by these rules. You get what you give. Don’t expect to mess with me and get away with it without me doing something in return to hurt you back.
Some people say an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind BUT if you take my eye-you had BEST be prepared to give one in return. That’s how I roll.
whoops-made an error. Meant to say above I dislike hurting anybody who has NEVER hurt me-and I enjoy returning pain to those who’ve given it. My bad.
I have a daughter who is a scorpio who has amputated me. We had always been very close, loving, traveled together. But then she moved to California and changed little by little, became distant, saw the bad in people and became very judgemental, manipulative, passive aggressive. She was hurtful, yet she couldn’t see it. Her freezing me out of her life had to have been the most hurtful mean thing I’ve ever experienced. I was devastated. I love her so much and miss her. But she chose to create a problem rather than fix a problem, she chose to turn her back on her loving family, too good for any of us. She was loved and respected and she did this to even her grandparents who never did a damn thing to her but love her. She loves a great life, has a happy marriage, and has no need for anyone. In fact, she is slowly but surely mashing sure her husband is more separated from his family, who are great people. My question is, what’s the deal? Can scorpiis see their own contribution to a problem, can they see their own lack of grace in the lives of people who love them. And will she return to us, so scorpios ever feel guilt or shame? They may feel justified in their actions, but do they ever reconsider and then return? I miss my daughter.
Dear Sms2020 you have my deepest sympathy and respect.
I am so sorry this happened and that you’re hurting. People do things sometimes without being able to see themselves. Whether this is by design from the universe, (astrology seems to suggest it is for some) or a serious problem to be fixed, we don’t always know I think.
Take care of your heart and the hearts of those dear who are still in your life. Let your daughter go for now. She is grown, married, and in a different space in life. She may come back, she may not, but her soul has a path and it doesn’t sound like this is about you. This is entirely her and I am sorry you’ve been hurt this way. Be good to yourself.
Yes, I was frozen out by a Scorp or rather, he initiated the freezing process and I completed it; I guess it was a fixed sign vs. fixed sign deal, where, IMO, finality was the only logical solution. It was stinging and actually made me physically ill BUT I still feel it was preferable to other Scorp experiences I have with family members, who are not so easily “cut offable.” My mother, with Venus in Scorpio, is one of these! She shows love “the Scorpion way” which to me, as a Leo rising with Aquarian Sun/Venus/Mars, just ends up feeling like being tortured with red-hot pokers. Or pincers. Both!
I’m a Scorpio rising and have had to amputates a few close friendships so far. It’s very true to Elsa’s situation where I felt I was just so unappreciated and misunderstood that I had to cut ties out of self-preservation.
I think w/ Scorpios being misunderstood is just the most painful part of an unequal relationship. That’s all we ever really want. True, Scorpios are very judgemental, but they suffer from their own judgement of themselves most of all, so they want someone who knows them in and out and can still love and accept them, flaws and all. Scorpios can give deep, true, honest-to-god validation but it is hard for them to receive this from others.
Interestingly, I went through a 6-month period when both my Scorpio best friend and my Scorpio boyfriend (the two ppl in my whole life that I felt the deepest, most wonderful connection to) were both amputated from my life. I cut off my best friend because our passive-aggressive ways made us grow apart and that hurt me a lot, and my boyfriend cut me off because he was much older and more mature and realized I couldn’t give him the love he wanted.
I don’t have any planets except Uranus (in the 12th) in Scorpio, but I do have A tight conjunction with Sun/Pluto in Libra and Mars in Cancer in the 8th.I have to say, the aputation theme sounds pretty familiar to me.For along time I didn’t have aword for it.I just knew that when someone had maxed me out through abhorrent behavior/abuse etc… that I was very good at putting lots of effective “distance” between us.I also am good at leaving some associations with lesser offenders to simmer on the back burner for a minute.
It takes a while, and a lot, but I am capable of getting to the point of being totally cold to these people’s feelings.That’s when I’m most polite.And the trust? GONE.I amputated a scorpio friend of mine after years of verbal jabs and insults stemming from her insecurities and imagined slights on my part.Just did the same to a fellow Libra when I realized she was too competitive/envious of me to really want the best for me.That hurt like hell..but she’s been calling mutual friends with the story…”haven’t seen her for months…I’m worried”.
The fact is that I am now starting to realize the emotional depth of connection I am capable of building/pulling away.I don’t know if it’s more of the Cancer self-protection/indirect thing going but it has been my modus operandi for my whole life.I own it now as an adult though.
I am not a Scorpio, but I am somewhat Plutonian with Pluto conjunct the ascendant and a few planets in Scorpio. I also have lots of experience with Scorpios, because every close relationship I have ever had has been with a Scorpio – friendship and romantic. The funny thing is, I have been more the amputator than they have – I have had to cut myself loose from them, because they were so taxing to me, and harmful to me. They seemed to be living off of my energy – sucking it right up.
I am not proud of this, but I am a notorious amputator in relationships – and maybe this is Pluto in my chart. If you’ve ever hit rock bottom, been to hell and back Pluto-style, because of a relationship, you don’t want to go there again. You would rather send someone else to hell than go back there yourself.
The amputation? It’s painful, of course it hurts. It hurts because Plutonians tend not to love freely and selectively, but really LOVE our loved ones intensely. It’s like losing a part of ourselves. But you get over it, you have to – because you realize it’s for your own survival. Freezing someone out is easier than slowly breaking away, too. It’s less complicated – like going cold turkey off an addiction – and it works.
Plus, I hate to admit it, but it is kind of a satisfying way to punish this loved one who hurt you. Secretly, ha ha. The love is there, but who doesn’t want a tiny bit of satisfaction?
Well, this is my experience. I hope you found it helpful.
Scorp. moon, venus in 8th opp pluto. However, scorp moon is softened by a trine to venus in pisces…so I never really cut anyone off, until a few years ago, when I was betrayed by friends. I cut them off pretty much completely…it hurt like hell, but I couldn’t take it anymore, I was pushed to the limit.
I have also been frozen out by a Scorp. Not really sure why? He always wants the upper hand, very controlling. I think majorly insecure and over protective of himself and of getting hurt..he was hurt very much as a child and thru life. Its a defense and im learning to see that…but as a scorp with my own abandonement issues, its really hard not to take it personally and feel hurt.
I read somewhere once that many times scorps marry each other. I think this may happen because a scorp is the only one who can really know the pain and insecurities of another scorp. and tolerate all the intensity and baggage that sign comes with.
There is truth and there is truth.
This whole collection has been more helpful and insightful into the scopian mind than anything else i’ve recieved in the last seven years of varying agony over a singular scorpio relationship.
First degree??? Try third degree burn… at least.. when salt of the earth meets the fixed water ice of a scorpio. A chemical burn that leaves scars and fractures the psyche of both parties involved. Holy moly. I am still trying to reconcile with this particular lad. As I, sun sign capricorn, am the soulmate to his best friend, sun sign taurus -I cannot help but think it would better if we could bury at least one of the hatchets involved in our association. As well as honestly, get some long overdue honest insight and closure out of the whole deal.
What can crack the ice anyway? Obviously a spiritual angle is helpful… come on with the compassion! as well. I don’t even hold the godawful aforementioned revenge and psychological shadow puppets against scorpio. I admire it partially. It’s hard to find words to facilitate peace… what can one who wants reconciliation really say to a scorpio?
miss p, i like your blog very much. if there were no comments here, i think i’d read it ten times a day. but every couple of weeks you touch on scorpio, and it feels like everyone and their mother comes around to slander the scorpio. i hate to admit how much it bothers me, which is why i was so touched by this entry.
it was very touching, and truthfully i can entirely sympathize with you – i was amputated by someone when i was very young, and the pain of that was something i still can’t talk about. it wasn’t the amputation that hurt me, it was the shame i felt over my own carelessness toward this person who was only trying to help me heal myself. she wasn’t a scorpio, just a fiery pisces who reached out to me when i was still coming away from a horrible childhood. she was never unkind to me, but the weight i put on her was sinking her ship. and the healing she gave me took effect anyway; that hurt the worst! i swallowed up everything and gave nothing and i still walked away the winner. it took ten years to forgive myself for what i did, and when i came to her with my apology she told me how much she’d missed me and how proud she was of me. that’s the type of kindness a great pisces can show, and my gratitude for this experience can’t be articulated.
i have the sun, merc, venus, and pluto in scorpio. aquarius moon, capricorn rising. perhaps if i didn’t get her lesson at the age i did, i might have become like the scorpios your readers say they fear and loath. but really, i’m nothing like they say and neither are my many scorpio friends. i’m very opposed to all this “but if you meet a bad scorpio” business because i’ve met bad cancers (ouch!) and bad capricorns (run!) and bad aquarians (terrifying!) and bad geminis (suicide!) and even bad pisceans (hide!!!).
thank you, seriously. not just for saying something nice about scorpios and endeavoring(with astonishing tact) to articulate what scorpios can’t say – very few things in life happen suddenly so if someone got “amputated” they were probably a serious danger to the body – but thank you for writing about something which caused you discomfort. your bravery and your willingness are invaluable lessons to me.
I was thinking all of this talk of amputation as an act of self-preservation reminded me of a bible verse :
Matthew 5:30 “And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.”
Spooky, huh? 😛
You are sooo right im a scorp. rising w/ sun in virgo and i helped my friends out alot and went out of my way for them…once lol when i was in the 7th grade i gave my friend my treasured bratzs books XD i loved those..and a doll that was just for christmas then on her b-day she wanted me to buy her a DS nintedo ds those things costed alot .. and then she used to play hit me which i hated >.> but idk i still hung around her and i do that too that free session therapy XD lol idk i love helping people, listening to tjheir problems and just helping but … uhh people always seem to shoot me down >.>
“what can one who wants reconciliation really say to a scorpio?”
I’m sorry that I hurt you so badly, I didn’t know what I was doing. Please kill me quickly and get it over with.
Scorpio sun here. Your piece has really helped me, actually – indeedy, the image of the ‘cold, callous’ scorpio is a shallow depiction, and there’s usually more going on when you really plum the depths of a situation. I’ve recently dissociated myself from two friends (who are also friends with each other – it was a circle of sorts). This has caused me a massive amount of anguish and pain, but I really felt compelled to do something, only after thinking long and hard about it. Freezing people out is not something I do lightly, and I’m also extremely averse to confrontation, so perhaps the ‘freezing out’ action is a consequence of that. The few times I’ve done this has usually been because others have been superficial, emotionally draining, and opposed to my personal values. I’m certainly not perfect myself (painfully aware of my own shortcomings). I know distancing hurts those on the receiving end, but it hurts the scorp just as much.
Thanks for your honesty and insight 🙂 x
wow…just came across this thread now (: haha it’s a little late i guess but who knows, maybe a scorpio who has decided to cut off this thread will come back? 😉
anyway…
i just recently discovered that i am a pisces sun with aquarius moon & scorpio rising. what does it mean to have all 3 water signs?
also, i’ve realized that i have a very extreme personality. i can be extremely giving, generous, kind, will be with you through the ups & downs…but as soon as you betray me, the guillotine drops with no remorse. i never really realized i could be this harsh until recently. i’ve cut out a couple best friends over the years after they had wronged me to a point that felt like they didn’t appreciate the things i did for them.
i think scorpios or scorpio rising tend to be extremely loyal. and if you double cross them…that’s it. we knew we did everything possible to cater to that person and hold them down. that’s why they have no guilt or bad feelings about cutting off people cold. when you give of yourself completely & it’s not reciprocated… byebye.
anyways, i feel like i’m kind of screwed with this match up. pisces & scorpio rising? man it explains a lot..lmfao. i will be the best friend you’ve ever had. i will sacrifice myself for you. i’ve even given really nice, expensive gifts to some of my best friends. but once you show me you’re brushing me off, you’re getting the sting & i’m gone.
i think scorpios also have an uncanny ability to hold off & give the silent treatment. i mastered that as a teenager…if someone screwed me over, i could go years without speaking a word to them. of course it’s not comfortable, but it sends thema very clear message about f***ing over kind people & taking people for granted. i don’t think people ever get over the sting of the scorpio…do you?
i want to know if anyone else is pisces sun + scorpio rising??? halp…lmao
Scorpios are good people,but bragging about intentional hurt against someone is wrong on every level.We all were created by God and have good in us..As ppl we should grow and stop taking matters into our own hands after being hurt by someone.Be true to yourselves .Most scorps drive a hard bargain and done mind hurting themselves ,to hurt someone else..It’s really sad,a lot of them end up alone in life because nothing can meet what they want in life .Im an Aquarius and I love a Scorpio?but I’m being forced to stay away because I’m not the way she wants me to be .So our love just passes.Ive gotten ok with it and accepted it after trying to show her I am human and problems and hurts are meant for growth and to be worked out,if you really love ,like a scorp is said too..I find my love more lasting than hers,she only sees where I hurt her,she hurt me as well,and I still always gave what she needed when she called.Thats true love.Some say they string you along.Coudl be.But my truth is ,love has one definition,and If I do love you ,I will forgive you and be there for you.Scorps feel as though this a needy person Or smothering person.So sad,because you miss out on good love with judgement that is not the case!!,..Everyone do not intentionally hurt you Scorps…pray for forgiveness to enter your heart!
hey people who came back to this post XD i have a question…why do we freeze people out?! i do it a lot..at the first sign of betrayal or lies, i’m gone in a flash. sometimes i feel a little bad later, but i guess it’s a protective mechanism.
anyone know why we do this???
I have no Scorpio or 8th house in my chart, but I did amputate a friend that I felt like a 5th wheel with. He was talking to his 4 other friends while ignoring me. It came to the point where after about 3 months of observation that I realized our friendship was going nowhere and that we just weren’t meant to be friends.
To be honest we didn’t have that much in common and he probably was just pretending to be friends out of pity because when he met me for the first time I was sitting alone at my university eating. Lol.
It’s pretty much a: storming, forming, norming, performing and finally separating stage
People enter your life for a reason, and when that purpose has been filled, they take off to fulfill their other duties
Wow. What a well written article.
I think Scorpio’s are way sensitive (the evolved ones), and have high levels of emotion, and don’t know how to simply detach (like Aquarius) while still being around. For some reason that energy can be all or nothing. I think they have strong survival skills, and are in contact with their animal nature – and I gues the amputation is about survival on some level. My mother had a lot of scorpio energy. They thing about her with her family – it was almost Sicilian – once you were in – you were in. I am grateful for it and I hung in there with her, but I also had to learn how to see through things. She froze me out emotionally for several years (ages 19-21) when Saturn was transiting scorpio for all things. I was still a member of the family – but there was no emotional connection. I did the same thing to her for about three year about 10 years later. We fought it out – but she wanted me to say my truth and fight back – .
It is a karmic relationship I guess – but that is not necessarily a bad thing – as I decided to be water/rock. My pisces part – water – dripped, dripped, dripped, and Taurus patience hung in there. I think there is mutual respect now, and a relationship – but that passage to adulthood was difficult.
I don’t know why that energy feels it has to be all or nothing – but I think it hits them in their core – like they won’t live on some deep level.
I am sorry about the loss of your friend. I had an intimate relationship with a male that I was frozen out of – took about 10 years to get over.
Scorp Sun here. A few comments here are disturbing.
This issue of amputation is so complex. Many thoughts on it and some have been raised already. Self-preservation is true. However, lurking and hovering and lying in wait type of actions….I don’t know what that is other than stalking, mindgames, interfering with another’s life to a scary degree. That’s not Scorp. I don’t know what that is but it’s likely to be explained more by the psych DSM-IV manual than an astrological sign.
I’m a scorp and never ever would do that or have that intention. If someone betrays, hurts or is toxic, bad enough that I need to amputate, that’s just taking a healthy action to get crap out of my life.
It’s upsetting to read that friendships of decades – 18 years, 35 years, etc. – are amputated. Apart from abuse being involved, what the hell?? Do you just get tired of understanding? If you’ve managed a friendship that long, obviously it had a great deal of good and health in it. Amputating after that long sounds …. upsetting. Odd.
I was friends with a male Scorpio for a few months, after about two years of knowing him. We got along fairly well, had a few spats here and there (I’m a Sagittarius, I don’t know if our different signs had anything to do with that), but we had this huge blowup – all a misunderstanding – and that’s what I think made him rethink our friendship.
I always let him set the boundaries, and I like to think I did most of the work – he never texted/IM’d/called me first, and that frustrated me (it’s one of the reasons we argued). But he was a very good listener and we had really nice conversations…and I was in love with him, but that’s another story.
In short, we had a massive fight (I inadvertently caused it) but we apologized like before and he said he really ‘valued’ me as a friend, and he was glad we’d worked things out.
One day (a few weeks later), we were texting for almost all the day – everything was fine. I went onto my Facebook at approximately midnight, and – he had unfriended me. His (now ex-) girlfriend had also removed me from her friends (we weren’t quite friends, but I’d placated her and saved his skin during an argument they were having, so I suppose she deemed me worthy of being a Facebook friend). I texted him right after I found out and asked why he’d done it, and he said immediately that he hadn’t been on Facebook since he left, he didn’t know what I was talking about. I said, “So we’re still cool?” and he said, “Of course.”
But he never refriended me, and I texted him a few times and he didn’t respond to those. About two months went by with not much contact – he just gave me noncommittal answers, the barest of details, and finally I said, “Screw it, I miss him, I’ll see what he’s up to.”
Lo and behold, he did respond, but the moment I asked how his senior year was going, he didn’t reply back. Again, about two weeks later, I tried to contact him again, and finally sucked up my pride to refriend him. He didn’t accept it, but based on his Wall, friends list, etc., he went on every day.
We had several mutual friends, all but two of whom he removed, and I’m wondering if we’ll ever get back to where we were before all this stuff started.
Any suggestions, or is this a lost cause? I know we’ll see each other someday, somewhere, and I’m wondering what’s going to happen…
Lest we forget that Scorpio and the 8th house is all about manipulating behind the scenes, and ultimately, control of the situation.
8th house is also about sex, death, and other people’s money.
So, if a Scorpio decides to cut you or themselves off, consider the motive. There is always a motive.
Dumped and amputated by Scorpio. No warning. No discussion. No mutual agreement. Uncompromising. Lethal. Cut their nose off despite their face. In the end it was necessary and appropriate…but why so cruel?
And KathyF….you made a very interesting point. I can say, though, that I’ve not found another best friend, nor did I ever consider him my ‘best’ friend. I loved talking to him – still do. I am a bit surprised at your ‘They start off more vested in the friendship then I am, and are constantly calling, texting, etc. so I never feel the need to’ statement. It’s eye-opening…I just wanted to make him like me, I suppose.
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Know the feeling, lots of passive aggressiveness as well – didn’t want to be cruel I think but easier way for him was be “nice” but avoid/cut communication. Devastated, it is very cruel. I would never treat someone like that who had been so close and hadn’t mistreated me.
I am so pleased that I came across this website. It has help me so much to understand and move on.
I have been losing my mind, driven there by a Scorpio freezing me out, then who dumped and amputated.
I am a typical Virgo practical and analytical I understand that relationships end however what I could not understand how a close loving relationship could just end so abruptly without any warning or explanation.
I still don’t know if it was the result of self preservation or whether he had just lost interest, I do know however that I no longer need an explanation from him. Instead I just accept that it’s over and would not even entertain a friendship should he come back my way. I will never date another Scorpio
Hello, everyone! Due in part to this site, I’ve been accepting that it was my own fault that my Scorpio cut me out.
The other reason is that my best friend, who’s a Cancer, is dating an Aries. She gave me a lot of insight into her mutual water-sign (Scorpio), and I in turn tried to help her understand Aries, because he and I are a lot alike (like, scarily so).
They had their first major fight – he unintentionally lied to her, or she thought he lied to her, and now he’s scrambling to fix it. She cut him out and told me precisely why: she can’t stand liars.
Anyway, it brought a lot of the old pain back, and I now realize that in my quest to impress and placate Scorpio, he found out that I lied to him, and that was that. I was out.
I wish I hadn’t lost him. I spent three years loving him, wanting him, and I screwed everything up. Seeing my best friend completely amputate her boyfriend, seeing how coldly and completely she got rid of him because he inadvertently (and accidentally, he says) hurt her…that’s precisely what happened with my Scorpio.
Now if I see him again, and I know I will someday, I don’t know how to react. Should I ignore him, or say hello, or…just walk away?
Lynn…
You let him go his own way, he may just come back when he’s ready if not don’t sweat it just carry on with your life. He’s in pain but he’s more or less living his life.
Anyway to this topic… I agree with the whole topic to be honest. Natal Sun, Venus, Mercury and Pluto in Scorpio. Plus a progressed Scorpio rising means I understand the need to amputate. Which comes after a long and hard time of deliberation, should I or shouldn’t I?!
I give too many chances I realise, I allow people to do whatever then when I say something in response to their nonsense or behaviour its always ‘don’t speak to me like that’ or ‘you’re jealous’ or ‘you’re behaving like that cause of the things that have happened in you’re life’. Those are some of the few things I’ve heard that for myself when it gets to that point is really my need to amputate and say goodbye without warning. As others have put it ‘ripping the bandage off’ which pains but will always rise to a higher understanding about myself. It allows me create new boundaries. I’ve thought about those statements for a while and realised that those are their judgements and not about my actual character. I can be blunt and its without the bullshit, ‘if you want a shoulder to cry on don’t come to a Scorpio they’ll tell you the truth, look for another sign’. I couldn’t agree more with that statement.
It seems that no matter how many times I or many Scorpios say to a person what is irritating them or hurting them many don’t listen then end up with the silent treatment come back and do it all again. I wonder if they learnt the lesson at all?! Or if they just enjoy provoking?! Let’s be real that energy, those listening ears, the encouraging words and that loyalty to a fault shall soon disappear as the waters run dry or the constant dropping in the ocean has reached that point where the waters are still, frozen, no longer flowing or just crashing violently against all the drops of debris.
I’ve lost a lot of friends including a boyfriend because I got to the point of ‘really? Are you really telling me this superficiality? Isn’t there better things to speak about?!’. As well as no longer having the time to comment on the dramas of others, I can’t keep enabling people to not learn their lessons, take care of themselves or grow as people as they suck me dry and thrive because they can’t be bothered to look at and process themselves but expect me to do it and tell them. I have things to do!
I’m a Taurus being frozen out by a Scorpio I love dearly. It’s like being hit with a 2×4 out of the blue – she said she loved me recently, I wasn’t aware of any problems and we were having good times. Then she emails me that she needs to stop having our Netflix movie nights for a couple of weeks while she works long hours. Okay, that’s sad, but I can do it. I called or e-mailed only a couple of times a week before I discovered that she wasn’t answering, then spaced it out further, but in nearly a month she’s only answered once.
The trouble with freezing me out is, I have no idea how to conduct myself – how can I find out if she’s not speaking to me? She’s kind of softer than many Scorpios. She told me right at the start she had a horrific childhood and is afraid of closeness, and our 6 ½ years have been studded with big and little backoffs. Always a 2×4 out of the blue. I came to believe they were readjustments when she was feeling too close. She said she didn’t understand why she did that, but I might be right. I backed off and called her less often, but every now and then put out a feeler to see when she was ready to come back, and she always did. 2 weeks at the most.
But this time, it’s gone twice as long as ever before. Even when it’s a business question, I can’t get an answer. I’ve done the office work for her business for years, but I’ve put it on hold while she wasn’t speaking to me, except for upcoming tax deadlines. In the end I need to know whether to hang on and see what happens or to put together all the tax stuff and passwords and leave it in her house, take my things and leave my key behind. I need to know what to do about this old car I lent her.
Besides that I need to know whether to process this as an ending, or not. I need to get out of the limbo. Even if I never can find out what I did – and it would be nice to be able to make some sense out of it in my mind, as I move on.
Our lives were intertwined in so many ways. I can untwine them if I have to – yes I’m feeling destroyed but I do not have to be needy at her. I do not cry at her and have always made a point of not doing so. But I’m not ready to make my own unilateral decision to untwine our lives no matter what she does. I still want her back. I feel like whatever I do is likely to be wrong – either I precipitate the amputation myself by putting out connection feelers if she wants to be rid of me, or I precipitate it by untwining everything if that’s not her intention. I’m sure it’s silly to think I should do one of those, but I have absolutely no clue which one.
We always said we’d take each other’s cats if anything happened, and I know she’ll miss my kitties as much as I’ll miss hers, if it comes to it. I’m just having so much trouble believing she’d really do that, that it could really happen. Because after all, I don’t have anything to tell me definitely whether it is happening or not.
And it seems so sad, such a waste, when we always felt we were so good together (or at least we both said so) to just cut it off when, if I did something, we could have talked about it and I could have apologized/explained/reformed. I thought that’s what one did in a relationship. She’s my first Scorpio and I had no idea it could end like this.
Any advice… if anyone’s still here?
I work with a scorp who is in a serious relationship, we got to be what i thought was friends, he would call me about small things he could have put in an email, or not bothered telling me at all, we always went off topic, he flirted and teased, but it was all safe, he lives in another state, then, he just stopped. Its been a few weeks, i still have no idea what changed, working with him has its awkward moments, for me at least. It messed my head up a little, wondering what i did to provoke his sudden, and i mean overnight, change. I got bitchy over the next 2 days, but im over it now, if i have to talk to him, i keep it short, i stay on topic, im not going down that road again, i just wish i knew why he pulled back, it was so innocent and just fun chatting
Jennifer w, I believe that what happens is something in their own heads, not anything we did. The first time, mine told me it wasn’t anything I did, which left me utterly baffled. I think it has to do with getting closer, until some invisible line is crossed and they panic. What seems safe to us may not to them. I’ve been astonished at how much she is like descriptions of both abuse survivors and Scorpios – why they should be so similar puzzles me.
She’s told me she confuses herself, which is oddly comforting. I’ve come to believe there IS nowhere I stand, I only have this moment and however it is now. I’ve also come to believe there is no progress in this relationship, only cycles. I can ride them out if I let go of expectations and just enjoy, in the moment. Not so easy for a Taurus, but I’m learning.
Mine came back, and we’re kind of feeling our way from here, not as close as we were, but my panic buttons are gradually quieting down.
Can anyone help me with my problem. I am a Scorpio female and have been in a relationship with a Scorpio male for 1 – 2 years. First year he was here and there, hot and cold, then he came back after 5 months and told me he loved me, missed me, we are meant to be etc. We have been fine for a year, no rows or anything. Then we went on holiday a month ago had a very slight disagreement, he left my house in a rage and I havent heard from him sice. He has not replied to anything, not one word???
I have a Scorpio boyfriend, we’ve been together a year or two. Very close, loving, warm relationship BUT 5 weeks ago he stops communicating with me. He has ignored every text, call and knock on his door. My mum passed away at the weekend, he knew she was very ill and that I was caring for her. Still nothing… I text him to tell him she had passed away and I eventually got a text back saying how sorry he was, truly devestaed, told me to read some book, and then finished off by saying that he wasn’t in a good place at all right now?? WELL I KNEW THAT!!! it’s all about him. Why do these men wallow in self pity, can they really not help it? After 2 years together, practically living together, how can he just do this?
Going through my Scorpio guy not communicating with me. & doing a lot of research to figure out what to do next. Your story was very eye opening and I am so sorry that someone could be so callous to you at such a difficult time, that is shocking.
stinger51 – they just do it because they are selfish!
my scorpio boyfriend really loved me as long as i was babying him and serving his infantile needs due to his stress and he was also not in a good place right now. as soon as i had something stressful in my life, he can’t take it. it is all about him…
after i took great loving care of him, he just cut me off when he felt like it…selfishness – that’s the reason.
You hit the nail on the head. They freeze people out for being needy because only the needs of the scorpios count. All scorpio are this way to some extent. I’ve known many very selfish, self involved scorpios, but never a truly evolved one. Is there such a thing? I am an aquari, picses rising, sag moon.
Hello D,
I think you should reflect on your own statement to understand the behavior of your friend.
“I was being way to friendly with her boyfriend, but not on purpose! (Sag moon – I smiled to much).”
“not on purpose” is only a defensive statement..it’s human not to want to accept being guilty…
Due to your over friendliness with her boyfriend, this has caused:
“Her boyfriend completly monopolized the conversation and kept calling my attention…” Well, deep inside you wanted it to be like this..maybe you craved for his attention as well by observing his closeness to your best friend -no friend would like to admit this. But just think about it..be sincere to yourself….
Being a Scorpio myself, I can sense this is not true:
“when what I really wanted to do was – Just be with her alone and talk to her only .I never liked him but always lied and said yeh, he’s ok”
You felt left behind when you are with them-which is normal since they’re supposed to be closer together even when you’re there..
“I think my friend ended up with him for fear of ending up alone..” No, your friend ended up with him cause you have started to (without realizing maybe) be flirty with her boyfriend-she is hurt-sure-but wanted both of you spared of her justified anger…Scorpios are the type to rather cut you out from their life for some reasons than to be hypocrite to you…
Maybe if you apologize and accept that you’ve gone a little overboard-she’d have more respect for you and try to forgive you..even if she does not renew the friendship with you afterwards..
Ugh, I am so in the thick of this right now.
Where to even start. Mine is a Sag moon, Leo Sun Scorpio Acs. Doesn’t get much sexier. We’ve known each other 20 plus years, but only became friends in the last 4 after a chance meeting. Turns out we have lived completely parallel lives – both married young to strikingly similar partners (both currently bored to death with them too), two kids the same ages, all the same interests, etc. Our sun signs are opposite, our Venus is opposite and we both have water signs that tend to dominate aspects of our sun signs (I’m Cancer Moon, Aquarius Sun Virgo Rising). There has been crazy attraction from day one, but we have pretty much squashed it except for little flirting here and there. All very civilized.
About two months ago I admitted I had deeper feelings. It was a stupid thing to do, but I just couldn’t take it anymore in my mind and I know he feels it too. He of course wouldn’t admit to anything, but he doesn’t need to. I know he wouldn’t have bothered forging the friendship if he didn’t care. He said he did not mean to be harsh, but he was going to pretend I never told him so we could preserve our friendship. I was fine with that.
He immediately went and told his wife, saying it was a tough decision but that ultimately he did it because she deserved to know. I was pissed; I kind of figured that since he didn’t admit to anything, he had no right telling what amounted to my business. But whatever, what’s done was done. He communicated for a few weeks, up until she decided to get involved. Which I handled, humbly. Even after that he still stayed responsive for a while, kept saying things would blow over and we would all coexist, but out of the blue last week just disappeared.
I have very little experience with Scorpios, but I am wondering if this is what is happening now. I’m being amputated. Technically I didn’t do anything to “hurt” him – who gets hurt when they find out they are loved? But maybe it’s deeper than that. Who knows? I probably overloaded his ridiculously fragile ego.
Elsa,
This is a great article I’m a Scorpio with a Scorpio rising and I do the freezing out of people also. People often ask me why I feel it’s necessary to cut people out of my life and I often explain it as such,
“I give people a rope when they wrong me.. They can either pull themselves back up and we move in a positive direction or they can choose to hang themselves with the rope! It’s completely their choice!”
It truly is a preservation of self, sanity and to try to keep the little respect we have left for our offender in tact. It’s hard to express and explain without sounding mean, evil and like many have described a “succubus!”
Scorpio’s generally don’t go around trying to hurt others. Honestly scorpios love with so much of themselves and their hearts, but they also have an ability to see psychically to the heart of the issue.
Many times I’ve told boyfriend, friends, coworkers, family the outcome of a given situation months and years before it occurs. Scorpios can see the inner workings of something on a different scale or a different perspective than others. It pains us and I know because of my loving, motherly nature I try to nurture and teach… Hoping I can help without involving my stinger but sometimes it’s enevitable.
I’m the kind of Scorpio that oozes scorpio. I have penetrating eyes, people always assume I’m flirting whether its male or female, when people guess my sign they automatically assume scorpio. I’ve learned to do “trial cut offs”
I let people know I’m cutting them off because they’ve crossed my boundaries and I will go as far as blocking phone numbers and everything until I’m ready to speak. The reason for the extreme is because my Mercury (communication) is in sagg and I tend to be a little harsh with my words when hurt and angry… Especially to those I’ve let into my inner circle.
All these years later … I’d reach out to your scorpio. We are not as unforgiving as it may seem. Especially if we are in the Eagle aspect of our sign.
i find venus in capricorn –very very controlling and defensive
often having a very narrow ‘take on life ‘, –
if you are in they will dote on you -pick u up drop u off –butt its all for themselves really
they get security by controlling their environment –
at home in beaurocratic organisations where they seek advancment and recognition -status etc .well that sag’ moon is very in our face its playfull changable
exuberent -attention seeking
you /they cant help it -[jupiter rules this moon and gemini s opposite so playfull inconsistent -self indulgent emotions
!
—know thyself!! -plenty more fish in the sea to play with .L.O.L.
I love this thread.
I have a Scorpio North Node conjunct my Uranus and opposite my Sun-Jupiter in the 6th-12th.
I definitely amputate people. But only after I’ve given them chance after chance… and ONLY when it comes down to self-preservation. And it’s always quick and unexpected (to both me and them) – and I NEVER look back. Once the amputation occurs, it’s as if the relationship never existed.
I almost amputated one person a couple weeks ago at the Mars/Neptune square when some deception was uncovered. But knowing me well, he anticipated an amputation and did some pretty heroic damage control. I’m still not out of my shell, but I’m not stinging any more, so… we’ll see.
Chasing Kelly
When someone has so much self loathing esp a Scorpio they cannot love anyone else properly? He is obviously very messed up…I have a similar Scorpio ex-lover, he adores me and I him but he’s having counselling for his issues from his upbringing, I will not get involved with someone who cannot live freely. Mine goes between being cold (his own protective measure) and caring in the most beautiful ways but you see this is their problem and ultimately cruel. I know he’s not a player and these are true feelings, I know many of his associates.
Sorry this is this way for you. He is not stable and you should just allow him to move on and open your heart for someone who can give you without reserve. I know this is hard because Scorpios can be incredibly passionate and evoke very deep emotion from people, they are transformational people you see, but that doesn’t mean they are meant to be. He was the love of my life but I won’t waste the rest of it pining after someone who is not capable of giving (and he isn’t)
Fire crab, thanks so much for your reply. I am sorry for your situation as well. You are spot on with him having issues. His mom died of alcoholism when he was very young and he had a very turbulent childhood – he battles a very low self esteem & tries to hide it. I think it was easier for him to move on once he found out I was moving, but it is hard for me to understand because I don’t cut people off, I don’t stop speaking to them. But, being in a new city will help.
Yes having a new start will help, I don’t cut people off either but sometimes I understand the need to “amputate” if it is t meant to be, it can be too painful and a waste of your life waiting for someone to sort their head and heart out, give yourself a fresh new start!
Scorpios have ALWAYS transformed me, it’s always been painful although sometimes it’s been helpful to my growth, but I am very wary of getting sucked into their intensity now.
Amputated by a Scorpio bf this year. Didn’t see it coming. I was hoping and willing to work on us. Why does he keep messaging me? I would rather he stayed gone. I doubt I can ever be friends with him again. He’s always told me “exes are exes for a reason” however, now that we are exes, he continues to message me and act like he cares. Can he please stay gone and leave me alone? I do have feelings for him still but my only choice is moving on and working on my self.
-Heartbroken Leo Woman