What Energy Does Elsa Represent?

I got into an interesting dialogue with a newcomer, Mary on Undermining, Nasty Neptune post. She said she has been reading awhile and has seen me as Saturnian, and not at all Plutonian, which was curious.

I told her I felt I could represent all the planets in a way that is pronounced.

“…Yes, I have Capricorn, I also have a packed 8th house (Pluto).
I have significant Jupiter (broadcast worldwide) and Uranus (astrology) energy.
I have a lot of Libra/7th house (Venus) energy and my Mars (anger) and my Mercury (mouth) are legendary.”

Edit to add – this post is almost ten years old. I wonder if anything has changed so…

What is real here, from your perspective? Were you unable to choose?

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What Energy Does Elsa Represent? — 111 Comments

  1. I voted “Pluto” because when I have readings with you, you do tend to blow my mind…in a helpful way – don’t pull any punches to the reality of the situation. Which blows up my Neptune Rose Colored Glasses…but puts me back on the right path and gets me off the Yellow Brick Road : )

  2. voted mercury! yes, you talk about the taboo, but…at the end of the day your stories are the vehicle for the taboo so in this case, mercury trumps pluto!

  3. I am relieved people did not choose, Mars, or Uranus and not surprised, they did not choose Venus! But wow, what an experiment!!

    I expect it says as much about the person voting. Like, hrae’s thought process is interesting.

  4. You have most of the planets, not ALL. (no option for the sun or the moon.)

    It’s a big fat tie between Plutonian and Neptunian, because you have an unspecified number of planets in the 8th house, your house boundaries are fuzzy (what house is Uranus in? Does that Jupiter-Saturn conjunction straddle your ascendant, total mystery forever oh well) and you have Neptune in Scorpio (Neptune/Pluto) conjunct the midheaven (9th equal/10th placidus) — which you’ve talked about far more than Mars-Mercury. :p

  5. I tried to add the Sun and Moon (afterthought) but it messed up the poll. I figure I have an ego, but am probably not seen as emotional, but who knows.

    If you click and see what, “Mary” thinks, it’s shocking.

    It also might make a difference how long you’ve been around. In the middle of my pluto transit(s), this blog has been very dark. Other times it’s more chipper or social.

    Fact is, times change. I change and then you factor in the thousands of eyes on me, who the hell knows what they see. Saint or sinner and then those things flip, so more confusion.

  6. Was between venus and merc first for me, but then I read Jupiter and though. Offcourse!!!Sooo Jupiter in my eyes, but I can see the neptune too… reminds me sometimes of the That’s all folks ,and a smile with dimples…and one is are left intrigued allways.( not to compare you to a cartoon) But it’s that peek.

  7. For me ? It was Saturn. No question.

    I understand where you would get pluto or neptune..but from my perspective..definitely Saturn.

  8. I voted Saturn. Because you’re older than me, I’m 25, and so you’re like a ‘mother’ figure to me. In fact I feel you’re maybe a ‘mother’ figure to a lot of people.

  9. I voted Saturn,it’s Saturn loud and clear to me !
    I can see the Plutonian edge for sure though.Mars/mercury fits in there too.Passionate and fearless authority.This is only my view from this virtual window though,I know it is far from complete.

  10. Elsa, I chose Mars .. but not because of anger. I do believe that you have a lot of Saturnine qualities (wisdom, persistence, etc.) as well as the other things you mention in your intro. But when I think of Mars, I think of the energy as the spark that gets things done, the planet of action, the “can do” planet. Yeah, I’m not discounting that most people’s first association with Mars has to do with warrior energy and anger, but like you’ve often said, energy can be expressed in several ways. So I think you take the powerful Mars energy and use it to accomplish those sensible goals set by your Saturn side.

    Just my impression, though! Really Elsa, you rock!

  11. I cant vote! Not because it wont let me but because I can’t decide. I’ve said before you hit saturn for me! But You also dig at my scorpio and dig deeply and I think only pluto could do that for me! but then I have Saturn opposite my scorp moon and I have a cap/saturn ruled 8th house!

    But in the end after you teach me(saturn) after excavating deeply (pluto) you help me to Neptune (Disapear) It all. Wash away the fear and the ugly, nastys that would keep me mared.

    See so I can’t vote.. and yeah my pluto in libra opposes my Merc..

    Anyway Elsa you and this place help so much! Thank you!!!!!

  12. My first reaction was to say Saturn too…and its interesting because I’ve been around a couple of years. A while back, I think I’d have said Pluto but Elsa, you seem less Plutonian lately.

    I can also see Mercury plus the energetic Mars (not the angry one).

  13. I asked my husband what he thought, with these definitions:

    Mercurial – communicative
    Jupiter – teacher, broadminded, generous
    Saturn – authority figure
    Pluto – depth, like therapy

    “Jeez,” he said, looking completely baffled. “You’re just, P to me. I hope you won’t be cryin’ over this poll…” 🙂

  14. I voted saturn, because it comes across that way when you write!

    But obviously you represent other energies as well, such as that of Jupiter and Pluto.

    🙂

  15. I voted Mercury on first instinct because on this blog you are a communicator.

    But after reading the replies, I’m leaning toward Saturn (authority figure). And nightowl is right, there *are* a lot of photos of goats on this site!

  16. I didn’t vote because I see Jupiter and Pluto a lot. I guess maybe a bit more Jupiter…yes Jupiter. I feel like there are lessons and entertainment in all you writing (and often it goes deep…Pluto!)

  17. I chose Saturn because your wisdom comes from paying attention to and learning from your own mistakes and those of others. Not everyone does this, you know.

  18. Saturn! What you’ve provided here has made me more responsible for myself, my life, my emotions, others’ reaction to me, etc…etc…

    Saturn figure for sure. For me, anyways.

  19. I didn’t vote yet and guess I’d have to go with Mercury because of the blog; but there is sooo-o much Neptune happening too and the Mars courage of bringing people face to face with Saturn realities. Hmm-m I’m off to see the results now…

  20. Saturn – for me from 2 years following which includes one recent email reading.

    Other planets show like colours, but Saturn is the feeling of rules; responsibility; commitment, perserverance, task master.

  21. Communicator is the medium – the mode of the blog – can’t blog without communicating – though that isn’t the vibe.

    The vibe is a strength of authority on the subject which you perservere in (pure Saturn).

  22. Pluto because you take me out at the knees all the time and it’s usually just what I need (therapy)! Plus you hit the eighth house hard… whatever planet it is, thank you for the constant insight and timely ass-kickings 🙂

  23. I couldnt choose just one so I didnt vote …I have Libraaaa……bcuz u appear saturian(hard working)Mercurian (intelligent and great with words) and Plutonian ( not afraid of the dark or intensity ..so 2 speak )etc …all hell I guess u can represent all the planets lmao !!

  24. Pluto. I have never read anything with the depth and power even close to your insighfulness. I could easily find other Jupiter and Saturn figures aplenty, but another Plutonian willing to share on your scale? You communicate from the depths, completely without me being aware! THAT is Pluto to me. And you’ve help me learn to use my own, and regenerate through a hard time too! A deep, deep thank you from my Pluto to yours! 😀

  25. Came looking for you because I missed your stories (Merc)
    Trusted your analysis and guidance with my deep fears, power struggles and devastating crisises (Pluto)
    Came to respect your authority as I experienced (directly and indirectly) the results of your work. (Saturn)

  26. I can’t vote, man… I know I’m in the Hall of Mirrors! 🙂

    On the blog and board I can see Pluto, for sure. Always. Saturn is a given, because you’re a role model to me in many ways. I think Venus is something that probably comes across more in person, because the voice on this blog is very Mars-y (natch) and smackdab in-your-face yet you’ve stated that you’re very yin in daily life. I know the Jupiter is there, but unless I’m watching a vid or reading about buoyancy it doesn’t rise to the surface for me; ditto Uranus and Neptune.

    To add to all that, the vibe I get from “Elsa on the blog and boards” is different from “Elsa in an email consult” (more Jovian for sure and maybe more Neptunian — I don’t quite know where the extra-special “givingness” I feel should be ascribed since it doesn’t feel like Jupiter) and “Elsa in a video” (I see the Leo Venus pretty strongly in those). I’d lay even money that “Elsa in a phone consult” is also different, and “Elsa in person” is different still.

    So yeah. Teh Leebra. 😉

  27. I see them all at play, in some way or another, depending on the topic or dynamic on the boards. Or depending on where your mind is going or what the skies are doing…

    So can’t vote.

  28. I agree with Michele, so I didn’t vote either ;). There are have been times when I’ve seen each of the energies in different ways. Like when you use your merc, jupiter & saturn to communicate/spread information in a responsible/learning way. Or when you show your venus energy in storytelling about home/hubby. Or merc, uranus and pluto by shocking us all from the depth of communciation and information available here. I could go on, but needless to say, if I do feel repusled by something at sometime, I find it’s more my own hangup and don’t just throw the blame on you. I’ll just be greatful to you for bringing it up so I could deal with it (if I can at the time).
    Thanks for a great place to learn and grow Elsa, your efforts are definitely not wasted, even if it feels like they go unnoticed sometimes 😉
    Angie

  29. I voted Jupiter. Saturn seems obvious but I think the story-teller in you trumps that. Also you ask a lot of questions to provoke open-minded thinking, expand consciousness, so this speaks volumes of Jupiter to me.

  30. I wouldn’t really say there was a consensus. I also bet if I asked the same people this question in a year, at least half would change their answer. 🙂

  31. “Fact is, times change. I change and then you factor in the thousands of eyes on me…”

    This is why I voted Saturn, time and things changing is something inherent to this blog

  32. I was expecting to say Saturn/Pluto, but went for Venus.

    It’s true, you rep all of the planets well, but the Venus energy is strongest, and the foundation, of what I get from you.

    I was a little surprised, but not. You have a lot of power, sure. Greatest being love.

    I giggled to see that you were surprised at the lack of Venus, @Elsa. Me too. That’s what happens when you lead with your mind (wanted to say mercury), not your *whistle*. 😀

  33. I voted for Jupiter and I don’t think that’s changed over the years. Irregardless of content, you’ve always had a pedagogical/advisory tone to your blog and you have always been generous in sharing your life experiences and in helping others.

    To be honest, I don’t associate you strongly with Pluto, but rather, the 8th house.

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