Tips For People Having Neptune Transits

Neptune cuffIn working with clients having Neptune transits, I’m cautious in what I say. People are suggestible under a Neptune transit. It’s important to realize you have free will. Beware an astrologer coming ’round telling you that X and Y and Z was going to happen, as if your life is completely out of your hands.

Under the influence of Neptune, Virgo things like details, and skills like discernment, are important. It’s easy to become “infected” or undermined during Neptune transits. You can compare this to a drop of red paint, added to a white or neutral base. There’s no defense available.

When I consult with people having Neptune transits, I am careful to show them the strings behind the theater so they can fact check if they want. I supply the astrology which helps to clarify things.

This is necessary because I often work with people who have been told something by someone (astrologer or otherwise), that is downright bizarre. Often times the remark has taken the person off track, when the remark is baseless. Occasionally I see someone who has been devastated by a suggestion made at a time when they we’re vulnerable.

You can compare this to having a weakened immune system.  You’ll want to avoid people who confuse of mislead you.

If a person tells you something that makes you feel bad, and leads you to believe that your life is out of your hands, this is a big red flag. I can’t tell you how many clients I’ve had, taken by a “psychic” who had them sending money to fix their bad mojo or some such garbage.

It’s fine to get information via intuition or other ethereal sources, I do it myself all the time. But you want the Virgo component to be included in some form.

Matter of fact, if you are having a Neptune transit, I would recommend you go out of your way to get a Virgo friend who you can tap for logic. Or Capricorn, who can offer you a reality check.

Can you remember a time in your life when you were more suggestible than usual? How did this play?

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  1. I have a Capricorn friend on stand-by for just such reality checks. I try not to act without speaking to her first.

  2. Neptune is squaring my Sun and opposing my 10H Virgo Stellium. Good thing my therapist and aunt are Virgos. 😉

  3. I am having a Neptune transit right now opp. my Moon, which is in Virgo. How is it playing out? Well I know that it is a good time to maybe practice my intuition more, beef it up so to speak. That might help with my “fact finding”. I also need to use my Saturn in my first house to remedy my wanting to run away from anything messy in my life. To take care of business. Since Neptune is transiting my IC/4th house, and the moon represents home, I am clearing out my room, using more spiritual decor to do more yoga and meditation. I have heard the any harsh aspects can mean homelessness. God forbid this should happen. I can’t see that it would though, as my parents would step in. But it has just started so we shall sea!..lol

    • UPDATE: Have not recently been taken in by any such characters but in the past yes. I saw through it though once I go going on the mind track…I put on the breaks and said “Wait a minute”. Unfortunately, I did NOT do that with a friendship that seeped in through the cracks and was misled with. I finally did get disengaged though and it freed up a LOT of my energy. Now, since I wrote my reply above, I have had to move twice, sell my deceased parents home, go back to a situation I was offered, with more upheaval to come, weathering lots of changes at work and in life (people I am close to leaving for one reason or another) and wondering where I am going next. I am feeling the energy though of this Capricorn transit and going to use it to tether myself and get my s**t together. I can tell you though Elsa is dead on with the warning. I got kind of addicted to psychic websites when this transit first started happening and and wasted a lot of money. I can say though, that I have NEVER felt I wasted any money getting readings from Elsa and or Midara. They don’t lead you astray. They will hone in and clarify like nobody else I have experienced a reading with. Of course how you take that and use the information is where your free will comes in.

      So anyway not homeless, but going to be looking for a home, just not sure WHERE yet. *getting out her binoculors*

      • Forgot to address: I have Moon in Virgo (same degree as Dolly Parton : ) and you know how pragmatic she is! And I have Venus in Capricorn. I think it has saved me during this transit.

  4. Suggestible. All the time getting detoured down some goofy path because I trusted. Progressed 6th is gemini, so I am looking at mental health. This very thing can make me crazy. The words I hear are often in opposition to what I am seeing and experiencing. I am in process of accepting that this exists after being angry about “being told lies” when it is quite possible that it is not the “liars” intention. It’s not just taking responsibility for my own perceptions, but not allowing others to hurt me. Discernment definitely. And goodness knows, I could be doing the same thing. So by all means, everyone make up your own mind.

    Gosh, this piece is clear and gutsy. I like it.

  5. Right now I have Neptune squaring my Mars and inconjunct my Sun. Thank goodness that I do have a fair amount of Cap & Virgo, it definitely helps me stay grounded when I’m tempted to float off. I also think that, on the flip side, my normally security conscience, stodgy, routine oriented self could use a little wandering off of my beaten path. My Neptune square Neptune transit was hard, but at the same time I appreciated that I felt ok with letting things fall apart, being the control freak that I am. It felt freeing. Granted, getting back on my feet & having to forge a new path hasn’t been easy, but I’m thinking it was a necessary step.

    Maybe I’m grounded just enough to survive the dissolving effects of Neptune…

  6. Don’t know if it’s this, or your previous post about shocking and mental strain, but I have been chippy as hell for the last 12 hours and my sex drive has gone crazy, much to my wife’s amusement.
    Didn’t know those 2 went together!

  7. Was just devising a plan to avoid this very situation. This blog entry validates the plan I came up with. Thanks Elsa.

  8. I think with 4 Virgo planets, including Sun, I’m pretty resistant to being suggestible. That hasn’t always extended to not convincing *myself* of things (like relationships I was convinced would work – I have Venus/Pluto natally sextile Neptune and Jupiter). But I am trying to double-down on the Virgo discrimination as Neptune is in a long-haul transit opposite my Merc+Venus+Pluto at 0-2 degrees Virgo.

  9. Not this Virgo! Neptune is opposite my Sun right now, the fog is so thick I couldn’t find my way out of a paper bag(I have a pretty foggy brain to begin with, this transit even makes it worse). And I’ve got big major life decisions ahead of me that I can’t hold off.

    With transiting Pluto on my Moon (& very close to MC), T Uranus square it, and T Saturn on my Desc, things are upside down and all around for me anyway.

  10. my ex-husband’s parting shot was “you’re just too hard to love”. I have been struggling with that for 8.5 years now. it is the hardest thing to root out.

    • The projection of a person who at least in that moment needed someone else to blame for their inability to love more unconditionally. I can see why that would have been immensely hurtful

  11. I’m finding myself relying on fixed modalities (Taurus, Aqua, Scorpio and Leo). Mainly because all the Cardinals (especially the Capricorns) I know are getting slammed by Pluto and and all the mutables including Virgo are getting drowned by Neptune.
    But, then again, I am one of those having a messed up Neptune transit right now. Maybe I should reconsider. I’m definetly prone to suggestibility right now.

  12. This explains quite a bit. I have a Virgo friend who I haven’t talked to in a while. Now’s the time to go drop her a line and reconnect. I could use the grounding.

  13. Since Neptune got to my Asc I’ve been watching for extra delusion. But I think I’m actually clearer about stuff. Or am I kidding myself…

  14. Thanks for this. I’m really looking forward to Neptune getting off my sun! I thought Neptune was just recently retrograde too!

  15. Neptune is opposite ascendant, conjunct mars.

    It seriously sucks. I was the person who made the thread about the swindling psychic. Charging me 1400$ to rid me of “curses” which really did nothing.

    Its funny how yesterday I just started googling my neptune transits and this blog post pops up. I am taking care to be extra careful of who I trust and trying not to delude myself into anything. Since neptune is also transitting my 7th, I have been disillusioned with relationships and sex in general..

  16. Neptune is squaring my Mercury and Jupiter right now, although it’s not exact yet.

    Having a Virgo or Cap therapist would suit me (Cap if their Sun is in the last decanate). Or an Earth sign astrologer. Or both. My needs at this time are for counselors who are honest and forthright, as well as practical.

  17. “…Matter of fact, if you are having a Neptune transit, I would recommend you go out of your way to get a Virgo friend who you can tap for logic….”

    Perfect 🙂 I have a 1H Virgo stellium friend, an engineer, who is super critical and all logical and has no qualms about telling me I’m being stupid. It’s a reality check.

    @Satori … my ex-husband’s parting shot was “you’re just too hard to love” … NO! You’ve GOT to be fucking kidding. Talk about projection.

  18. Neptune is opposite my Mercury. I don’t know anymore or at least in this transit. Stop the planet, I want off. Dial a Virgo…

  19. DancingBarefoot someone told me that once too a long time ago! I wonder if that retort ever did anything besides make the sender look like a real jerk. I hope not…it is just beyond.

  20. yup neptune at the tail end of 2nd house and i think since i have all outer planets Rx, when they go Rx i can better understand myself..

    so now with neptune Rx, i’m finally coming to better terms with my belief in myself and what i’m really worth 😉

  21. This particular Virgo is having his Sun opposed by Neptune, which also trines his Scorpio Mars and Cancer MC. I’m happy to offer reality checks, just call around 2014..

  22. I have one happy super-Virgo friend. I’ve also got my rock (P), my very fixed KEB, and another very fixed and practical friend. I think I’m good, and I always appreciate the heads up.

    Esp when it’s Neptoon!

  23. This is a great post… Neptooooon issues abound in my chart to begin with, but it has spent the last 7+ years clobbering my Scorpio stellium.

    Got very bad advice from people, including, yes, psychic frauds and others (moved cross-country on the advice of one psychic—what a disaster!). I just look back and go, “WHAT was I THINKING????!!!” Still trying to find my way out of the fog, but have stopped making major decisions based on “leaps of faith” alone.

    Agreed that one needs a good grounded friend(s) of any kind to help through the fog!

  24. Excellent post, Elsa.

    ((@Satori))

    I’ve been through vulnerable times as a Scorpio, when the deep water of uncertainty (Neptune infusing over-loads) wiped me out when those closest to me and my Node opposite (the grounded Taurus)did what you, Elsa said:

    “If a person tells you something that makes you feel bad, and leads you to believe that your life is out of your hands, this is a big red flag.” I didn’t get the red flag. One of those people was a life-long friend I had depended upon since I was a girlchild. What I lacked was the discernment and fact-checker switch to see the woman was using her influence and I was letting it happen. Time, Saturn and my seriously Virgo – Cancer mate is that ‘fact-checker’ now. I have plenty of Capricorn, but deep water Scorpians need to learn to let loose with the truth so Virgo can help.

  25. Yes, most of my early life. Bad, bad, bad. I got conned a lot and believed a lot of things people said. Extremely deluded. Having a Virgo-y SO has been healing in many ways. I’m more grounded and not half as deluded as I used to be, yeah! Yay Virgos!

    Neptune in the 3rd is soooo much better than having it oppose Mercury.

  26. trying to stop asking my Virgo friends for advice about everything, they tend to over-simplify and/or just make me feel bad in the end.. maybe it’s them being judgmental? (I hadn’t realized 3 of my closest friends are virgos)

  27. @Ella: If you find some with some water mixed it, they are very good to talk to. Not only listen but give good, practical advice that might be hard to hear…but is streaked with compassion for you issue.

  28. neptune is opposing my mars, moon and ascendant. i have been told to leave my home and i cannot find anywhere to live :/ this is just another in a long line of problems ive struggled to deal with.
    i really cant be bothered anymore. totally burnt out with stress 🙁

  29. I am having this now and it is literally driving me crazy. I’m so delusional and erratic in my thoughts… I think I need medication. Brain we won’t stfu and having HUGE paranoia and connecting dots that don’t exist. A scary situation for me since I’m so mercurial, losing my mind is my absolute worst fear and I think it might be happening. I guess at least I am aware of it, but does not stop it.:-/

  30. T. Neptune is around 5 degrees from my mercury atm and oddly enough, I am starting to feel it. I noticed I am leaving out detail when I communicate and this bothers me since I worked on this so hard during my saturn return in the 3rd house. I’ve also been wondering if we have free will. I have so much static in my head and confusion. It is like I cannot finish a complete thought without derailing myself. like my thoughts become mist or something. I can’t believe I can already feel this. . . and its just going to become stronger 🙁

  31. Anyone know how to “trick Neptune?” Someone wise told me that’s what I need to do. That soggy, foggy bastard is transiting my poor battered 2nd house, just 2-3 degrees from opposing my Virgo Moon in 8th house. I’ve been in a fog, letting time and money slip away, while avoiding, procrastinating, being duped, wallowing in escapism and indecision. I need to get back to my frugal, Spartan, driven Aries self. I think my Saturn is broken — help!

  32. Hi I am sun/mercury in Pisces in 1st house with Neptune conjunction transit over them , sun rules 7th and mercury rules 4th and 5th house, 3/13/1993 5:10am is Date of birth. I find myself sooooooooooooooooo fogged out lol like Im in fantasy land 24/7 like I can’t function in reality, ugh its very difficult for me, anyone can help?

  33. Virgo Sun here, having a Neptune transit! Get to the bottom of everything, double check, triple check…or just keep walking, having faith that the fog is going to lift eventually and trying not to fall in the river at the same time!

  34. Sun at 10 degrees Pisces and IC at 12 degrees Pisces. I have no words. I’m so lost that I’m not even sure if I’m lost. Rip current has taken me and now I have to swim parallel to the shore to hopefully one day step foot on land, not sure if I will have fins or legs by then.

  35. I’m having a Neptune transit – it’s opposing my Saturn in Virgo. And the transit Saturn is conjunct my natal Neptune. 😀
    Luckily, I do have a great friend who is a Capricorn and she keeps me grounded. and lifts my spirits occasionally.

  36. I have Neptune conjunct my pisces moon 11 degrees for awhile now and will for a bit longer also. I seem to be ok, nothing different or out of the ordinary for me in Neptune area. I also have Saturn squaring my pisces sun 21 degrees for awhile now and that is the one that sucks. In a few years Neptune will conjunct my sun and then my midheaven.

  37. Oh yeah, Neptune on the Descendant, between my Sun and Venus, opposing my Viego moon. I guess I have a drinking problem but I don’t care. I have these intense dreams and constant (chronic) synchronicity so much so it has become overwhelming because of lack of actual meaning or something to DO with it all. Yes, lost, but acquiescing and transcending also as much as the Virgo in me will allow. Enjoying nihilism also.

  38. I made a very unwise relocation under a Neptune opposite Sun transit (add to the mix a Pluto/Moon transit at the same time, which set the stage for the absolutely horrendous Uranus/Pluto square to my Moon and later my MC).

    Exactly like you said Elsa, it was an astrologer I had consulted who encouraged me to make the move, that the time was ripe. Not once during the consultation did they mention the Neptune transit. Of course I have to take full responsibility for my actions, in the end I made the decision. But definitely, I was vulnerable.

    I have Mercury square Neptune natally, and cloudy thinking is the order of the day at the best of times (but I do pick up subtle vibes and expressions where most don’t). I understand the fog, all too well. My Virgo Sun/Cap Moon barely uttered a peep during the whole process.

  39. This post could not have come at a better time, in fact it is synchronous. From a Virgo, too! I’m rubbing my hands (metaphorically) with glee as I warm to the task of touching on the Neptune transit I’ve had, and just those kinds of events Elsa has described. I have Mercury in Pisces and Neptune has been in a conjunction oh, for a while now. The upside of this is that I also have Pluto opposite, so discernment is really important to me, and I’m always scanning a person’s motives if they seem a little suspect to me. I use psychic tools quite often, and that includes occasional consultations, which are invariably very helpful. But sometimes, and on a particular occasion, the consultation was laced with something completely off which I know was not true, and put the person delivering it into doubt. I hadn’t even noticed it in the recording at first because the sound quality was not good at the time, but it dawned on me that this person was not perhaps all that they were purported to be. It was quite subtle. Now, she still sends communications soliciting me for further ‘sessions’, which calls to mind something a Gemini friend once told me, ‘Beware of psychics attempting to use you as a cash cow’. Fortunately, I’m surrounded by Virgo people and their energy – and they are the ones who are able to call out Neptunian duplicity or whatever in various situations. And I feel my natal Pluto stands like a guard dog (like Cerberus!) at any incoming potential to poison the well of the mind. Very, very true, about the idea of a psychic trying to trick you into believing your life is out of your hands.

  40. When Neptune transited my cap Asc I swear I felt like I was melting…. Or I was just a cloud of molecules being blown from here to there…

    I couldn’t find clarity or certainty for what seemed like forever.

    Surrender, trust, serve, aspire….it was a process of learning to tune my inner radio to my ownTruth. Yes, good to have an earth person to check with, but it really is all about learning to hear your truth, know what is right in that moment. No doubt about that at all!

  41. Being a super Virgo Sixth house gal and having Neptune opposing my sun back and forth for forever I am beginning feel how much I need that ethereal to help avoid the effiecency box I have been plagued with since birth. I am a servantfor sure but not a slave. The ethereal realms are so important and hopefully without drugs. The shear density of the Mercury mind can really be a downer trap.

  42. Thanks, Elsa, for reminding us that earthy people, especially those who can discern things and reality (virgo, saturnians/capricorns), are amazing resources in one’s life during such transits.

    My previous big neptune transits (transiting neptune square ascendant first, then conjunct venus, and then conjunct mercury before conjuncting the IC) were one after the other, and at the time it felt like I was living in a garden maze with plenty of nice food and wine and no rush to get out of it!

    Although lots was lost those years, I didn’t lose all those years entirely as after the disolving (neptune) of some parts of my identity and dealing with various self-illusions and illusion about the world, I had transiting uranus conjunct my sun and strong insights about my life vocation came suddenly. I woke up and slowly got myself out of my dream/maze (it took a bit.)

    Currently having my neptune square neptune transit, soon transiting neptune will square my moon and later it will conjunct my sun. Yey!! Fun times (not).

    Normally quite neptunian with saturnian aspects (luckily if not I’d be washed in a beach, who knows?), now I feel more prepared for this second round of important transits.

    Realistic people, and discerning good friends are at hand, and this time I will listen to their views while my neptunian and pisces moon friends can swim with me as we try not to drown…

  43. Not a transit but I have Mercury conjunct Neptune and up until I was about 26 I would be totally susceptible to what my sister would say. Half of my identity was based on what she said I was like. She’s a master manipulator with Mars conjunct Pluto in Libra and she didn’t always use it well so it took some harsh Saturn transits to set proper boundaries. Tr. Neptune is currently squaring my Sun and Uranus so I’m probably susceptible now too. In fact I’m in the midst of an identity and existential crisis lol. Glad I’ve never used any other than Elsa and psychiatric nurse For outside helposti so no BS from anyone outside my immediate circles.

  44. I am in the midst of a Neptune oppose Moon transit and it has been on going for a while and will be here for a few more years. I will say that my spirituality has been very pronounced for me. My dreams are increasing as well as my intuitive awareness. I have a keen sense of just ‘knowing’ something. Difficult to describe, but then again, it is Neptune, so how can one get a grip on fog? Sometimes the fog does clear enough to make things out, but I have found that it drives me deeper inside to find those answers. A rose is not always a rose. Luckily I have Saturn helping out, a true gift. I am loving the creative aspect of Neptune transiting my 5th house as I am an artist and my recent work shows of the depths I am working at. I have a good relationship with my Neptune/Saturn conjunction in my 12th, it just wasn’t always in clear view! Ha…I know, such a fitting statement for this aspect! It has been a good for one me so far.

  45. Neptune transiting the first house. Sudden tiredness, lucid, dramatic dreaming and a preference for lighter forms of exercise like yoga and aquatics. Shaggier appearance and some weight gain(unusual). Spiritual/occult leanings, reading, travel and renewed love for nature and pets. Solitude.

  46. Transit Neptune conjunct Mercury pretty much blows. I am more spaced out than ever and that is really spaced out considering how much Pisces I have. I can’t focus and I am forgetting things left and right. I just hope it’s really Neptune and I don’t have dementia. That is all.

  47. Oh… I have Sun in early Virgo, Mercuryy and Chiron in mid Virgo. I’ve been affected by this Neptune transit since 2012. I can’t even remember how I felt before that lol.

  48. Oh my gosh. Thank you so much. I just started digging, wondering why I felt like I was walking around in a kind of molasses soup stupor?!! Neptune totally transiting my Ascendant in Pisces(no less). Also, it’s about 4° away and I did the math. It’s going to take about another year to fully conjunct and another 6 months to get out of the “garage”. Yours was the most concise, if not hilarious, memoirs La Vida Neptune.

  49. Great post, Elsa! Thank you. Neptune is squaring my Moon in Sadge right this minute. Ugh! I’m going thru my Jupiter Rx, Saturn Rx, and Chiron Conjunct Asc. During this Thursday’s eclipse 2~15~18 I’m going in to see if this weirdness on my breast is cancer. I am sick ALL the time. This year I’ve been diagnosed with some really serious stuff. I feel like I am slowly dissolving. Rough year so far, and it’s only Feb!!! Your post helped gain clarity. Thanks again!

  50. Such a relief to come across all these comments and Elsa..already being born with a challenging chart, I can honestly say with sheer experience (as Neptune is conjunct my moon since last year – damn slow planet), that this transit is one of THE worst yet! Already being born with a Pisces moon (dreamer) and a Moon squaring Neptune aspect, I essentially have lost all hope – “Mid-life” they call this? I call it “take your life.” LOL…I feel this transit more than others that don’t have any difficult aspects and its been a doozy. I don’t even remember what its like to be happy any more..I ve lost clarity, ambition and focus. Im basically just a shell of a woman walking around. My Taurus Sun and Virgo Ascendant are hardly helping. November-December I MAY be back to my old self…but my goodness, this has been rough. My 17 year old worries more about me these days than I do her. 🙁

  51. Neptune is forming a square to my Mercury in Virgo (7 degrees out, but still…)

    I hope I don’t dissolve mentally into a bowl of soup before it’s all over. Virgo hates feeling dumb.

  52. I’ll have t.Neptune at 20 deg from April-August 2020 sitting on me so this is something for me to keep an eye on. Though, I’ve gotten good at recognizing and ignoring internet trolls ……. so, hopefully this transit won’t be too derailing.

  53. Neptune moved into conjunction with my sun around 2010, then on to Jupiter. It has been on my Venus since 2018 then will proceed to Mercury and a moon opposition. I have also struggled with God quite a bit, though perhaps that is a lifelong endeavor. I have started to recognize magical thinking for the lovely lie that it is. Alcohol has run a river through my 20s and into my 30s. Mari Jane is my constant companion. With the Venus application obviously my chronic solitude comes into focus but I’d rather it go back out of focus. That wound is infected. The rending of garments and gnashing of teeth. One night I called the suicide hotline and they put me ON HOLD! I hung up, dazed, then laughed and laughed. What a moment. Strange bleary blurry times. Lots of TV, thousands and thousands of black and white movies where the movie stars kiss with their mouths closed. If anything I would say I have identified more with Virgo (I have moon and rising) and have leaned heavily on its traits, especially in the last few years, to a fault much of the time. If anything I am less susceptible and instead ultra wary of being duped again. I have drawn into myself, the world is full of thorns.

    • Hugs to you Charlotte and thank you. Neptune has transited my 6th house since 2009 and during that time I’ve had a couple of unusual health issues that I related to Neptune in the 6th but I’ve had my head in the sand when it comes to my increase dependence on alcohol. Your post has made me look at that.

      In March Neptune will cross into my 7th house, immediately conjuncting my Pisces moon. It will return to the 6th house in October for about five months. I don’t want to wait to look at this addictive behavior and I hope you can as well.

      I wish you well.

  54. Yep, this year has been the great upheaval and spiritual awakening in my life. Transiting Neptune in my Ninth square my exact Neptune/Pallas conjunction in Sagittarius at 15° in Sixth House. The way I was living and being became suddenly too stifling, like wearing a strait jacket. The old me was suddenly something I couldn’t sustain.

    I’ve given up alcohol and drugs, meat, my career, leaving my situation financially precarious. I’ve really taken up yoga and meditation and my media diet has changed from news and factual to mainly music, astrology, Ram Dass (Vale!) and anything supporting my dream of being a full time freelance musician/composer/producer.

    I’ve got the niggling fear that the dream will subside and leave me washed up in the middle of nowhere. But the new awareness of energy fields, Divinity, soul and spiritual community has given me something far more valuable than food or a roof over my head. And I’m confident that the worst case scenarios won’t play out, in fact dealing with the fear and battling my tendency to entertain “worst case scenarios” in my mind has been one of the big learning points of this time.

    Interestingly I’ve really noticed the physical sensation of meditation releasing the same chemicals in the brain that certain drugs act upon. I think it’s very much tied to the Sixth House activity with Neptune squaring as Jupiter conjoins.

    And interestingly, the natal placement of Neptune in the Sixth represents to me the way that I just drifted thoughtlessly into the wrong career path for me. I feel that a person’s Neptune square is their opportunity to intuit where it is that natal Neptune has befuddled them throughout their lives

  55. + DEAR ELSA, MERRY CHRISTMAS +
    Neptun square to SAG and CAP is full of everything you can’t see or get or predict. Full of surprises you want or don’t want. Dust, sometimes more, sometimes less. People come and go, fast and for moments. Only the inconsistency is constant. The future is no longer depicted. Confrontation with lies and fraud, by people and the state. Humanity, sensitive people and nature are eaten up. “How dare you?” is laughed at. Little happiness is rare.

  56. I survived Uranus and Neptune transit conjunct Moon in my 4th and it was the most horrible time of my life, together with Saturn transiting 8th and 12th. And now I´m about to live Neptune opposite natal Mars. Anybody has experienced this? Any insight? Suggestions?

    • My only insight is that the gifts of Neptune are purely spiritual. I’m sure there will be some difficult moments but if you can get to the deeper meaning…. beyond mind and logic. Good luck <3

  57. Neptune was transiting my Aquarius 1H and squaring my Pr Venus and Pr Sun in Scorpio during a dark time in my life. Deceptive truths were revealed and some suspect short-term alliances were formed.

  58. No one has fee will. Most people live by accident, and many don’t even realize their astrological destiny. The first step towards gaining free will is to realize that you have NONE. The orientation of the universe should not matter to those superior beings with innate “free will.” Elsa’s Peace Pilgrim was an individual that was beginning to develop free will. She said that she was not going to let those planets push her around. Elsa did not set out to be an astrologer. She had no choice but to be one.

    • Here’s the reference to Peace Pilgrim:
      https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/peace-pilgrim-henry-and-astrology/
      I do not agree that we do not have free will though!
      Yes, clearly I am supposed to be an astrologer and no I would not have chosen it, because it causes me endless persecution. However, I do not have to do this! I choose it.

      Your idea is not just mildly flawed, dear Clifton (who’s a quasi-friend and ally of mind). It’s deeply flawed as I have met countless people who REFUSE to do what they are clearly made to do and so they’re miserable and often make those around them miserable too.

      To be clear, I would not choose this profession but do choose to work in it, realizing I am not in charge of grand design! 🙂

  59. People always lament that contact sports like boxing are ok but dog fighting is not, lamenting that the dog’s don’t have a choice. What was Muhamed Ali’s choice? To be the most famous person in the world or an ordinary black man in mid 20th century southern united states.

  60. Just one more thing. I like to read this board, but I don’t want to make any posts. Now I have to consider what people think and if I am hi-jacking the thread etc etc etc. However, Even knowing so, I lack the free will to abstain from making yet a third consecutive post about a pet peeve, free will. Probably have to go back 10,000 years to another astrological epoch to find a time when people have had less free will than they have now. Yet everyone assumes they have more.

    • If there’s an ego, the ego mind sees itself as choosing. If you have reached enlightenment, then the self ceases to exist and there is no chooser. However, there is also no ego to see ‘nothingness’ or ‘no choice’ either.

      People are free to disagree with each other on this blog and forum. I do love your insight, though!

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