Scorpio and 8th House Types Sensing Death

Pluto roman godScorpio and the 8th house are associated with death. Scorpios and people like me with a heavy duty 8th house are exposed to more than their share of death. Often they can sense a person’s impending death.

I’ve had the experience many times and I’ve been on the other end of it as well. For example, some years ago I was called back for a suspicious mammogram. My partner at the time, with his Sun, Mercury, Venus and Saturn in Scorpio, laughed at the thought I might be ill. He knew I wasn’t.

I frequently know someone is going to die even when others think they’re not. I also tend to know when people are going to be okay, despite their dire situation.

I don’t know how or why this is.  A person is either dead (dying) or they’re not. I don’t recall ever having a strong sense one way or the other and having it be off.

I may not know, but when I do know then I know. I can’t remember the last time someone’s death came as a surprise…or their non-death for that matter.

I’m pulling up this thirteen year old post because this continues to happen. There is not really a lot of conversation about it. I would like to better understand it.

Other Scorpio / 8th house types want to weigh in on this?


Scorpio and 8th House Types Sensing Death — 114 Comments

  1. Capricorn eight house sun and merc which trines pluto in virgo. I can relate to this, my father is dying . . . my mother died suddenly ten years ago, that was a shock. My son is recovering from cancer and I believed he would but to be nine months in hospital with children who are dying from cancer is really tough. I am still haunted, deeply haunted by the trauma of having experienced the death of five children on the oncology ward. There is nothing to describe this, it is so . . . .Holy. Four of them had become friends with my son, death this way takes living to a different level. I’m not normal anymore. I was afraid that I knew that three of them were going to die. It was in the air. although I tried to fight the feelings. I seem to live between the zones. I do often find myself having ‘experiences’ at cemetries, churches. Once I had a powerful spiritual experience only to discover later that I was walking on a viduct that had actually claimed the lives of many suicide victims. Another such place is in the woods next to my home. For years I walked there, feeling mystically inclined and always returning there. I eventually uncovered the fact that 60,000 people had died there during the second World War, people from all over Europe had been sent there, now it’s a woods and pretty fields but it was a concentration camp, ruled by Nazis. The atrocities were enormous, brutality, mass murder of children, families, priests, soldiers French, German, Polish, Russian, Catholics, Jews, Orthodox. Here they were sent on to the bigger death camps. Such a Holy place. I have been researching the truth since and am working towards bringing more recognition of this to light. I feel them, I pray for them and ‘visit’ them . . . or perhaps they are visiting and comforting me.

  2. Neptune and Jupiter (rulers of my Pisces Asc) at either end of the 8th house. I’ve dealt with so much death around me it’s a surprise I don’t work in a connected industry dealing with it. I fear pain or senility
    more than death and believe that our energy continues past death even if it’s only in the memories we leave with others.

  3. Yes, I have a packed 8th house in Capricorn, and Jupiter in Scorpio and I know these things. I can tell when they have given up…I also have a strong sense of when other things are not right in a person, or when they have strong feelings about me…..It can be painful, since I am very empathetic and want to help, but know that I can’t…..

  4. Just to be the control, I am a Scorpio Rising with Uranus in first, and no, I absolutely cannot sense these things. I am often completely taken by surprise. I can sense pregnancy, though, oddly enough. My 8th is empty and ruled by Gemini.

    • Adding to the control group, I also have Scorpio rising and Neptune and Moon in 12H giving me strong intuition, but not about death. Empty 8H ruled by Gemini with mercury in Virgo.

  5. Yes, I’ve sensed this and other times, have “seen” it. My 8th house holds: chart ruler Neptune in Scorpio conjunct scorpio Mars, and it’s ruler Scorpio Venus. I have uranus-pluto-moon conjunct descendant angle.

  6. I have Neptune in Scorpio stationary retrograde 8th house. Yes, I have sensed and predicted death accurately ahead of time and have corroborating witnesses!

  7. I feel this. Though I am young so far in this life. I feel it’s familiarity each time it’s been true. The strangest comfort. To be even a little prepared. To feel sturdy in grief (pre-grief?) sure is something. I take it as a gift to be grateful for.

  8. Based simply on life experience, it seems to me that most people (and even animals, for that matter) actually know when they are getting close to their own death, even if perhaps most don’t quite accept it/bring it all to the forefront of their own mind while awake. Possibly whether they do or don’t has more to do with how they perceive death and whether it has otherwise a more settled/accepted role in their own view of every day life as well.

    I mention the above because I’ve seen this sort of contrast for instance between modern towns where death is usually quite entirely out of sight/almost taboo or at least avoided in general and older countryside places where death is/has been much more closely integrated as part of life. It’s highly unlikely that ~all inhabitants of old-style countryside really share otherwise some specific innate characteristics to link to it. It can however be indeed that in environments where that sort of more wholesome integration is not present, most simply don’t “see it” for lack of looking/it being so entirely and seemingly out of place that it pretty much gets edited out rather than being noticed at all. And in such environments, it will be perhaps indeed that it takes some specific characteristics to not edit it out and still notice it instead. So it will be that there are only some that find it easier to pick up or notice the subtle differences and thus “know it” while others/most don’t.

    Since you are trying to look at it though through the lens of an astrological system, as far as I know, the vedic astrology includes this in a more general way: both as a change in the person getting closer to their death and as to whether a chart gives more or less “access” to that sort of perception.

  9. I forgot exactly the answer to the question in the article: it happened to me that I didn’t *believe* my own knowledge of it, not that it was incorrect.

  10. I have Mars, Moon, Mercury, and Neptune between 6 and 10 degrees Scorpio in my 3rd, Pluto in the first house and Uranus cj the asc in the 12th. I feel people’s death and near death experiences. It started when I was 20, with my brother in law in the hospital dying unbeknownst to me, but my hands wouldn’t stop shaking and I couldn’t shake the feeling that something supernatural was going on until he died 8 hours later, when I suddenly relaxed. Since then, I experienced my ex’s stroke, mimicking his movements and hearing his thoughts in real time. Many heart attacks, fatal and otherwise, of friends and neighbors, where I would feel the pain, think I was dying, then hear the thoughts of the person actually experiencing it, and say, Oh, that’s not me! Who could it be? and then finding out later who it was. Mind blowing.
    It is very comforting to know that when someone is dying and they think of me, I can feel them and hear their thoughts as if by radar. It comes and goes, too. When I lived in a big city I felt several neighbors die in a short period of time. One I felt his heart attack in real time, another I felt enter and pass through out apartment just checking things out after he died. Another I felt an attempted hanging which choked me in probably my worst experience, but I mercifully didn’t feel it when he succeeded later. My grandmother used to dream of a red cross, and would awake agitated until she found out who had died in the night.

    • Susan,

      It is so comforting to read this – “Its not just me!!” I have Uranus in the 12th house. I “know” when people are going to die before they die. They often come and visit me shortly after death to give me a message or a memory of something we shared. I have also had dream visits with messages for others. This started when I was in high school – I “Knew” that my three grandparents were going to die, and I told my friend. But I did not purposely say it, it just came out of my mouth from no where – shocking me as much as my friend. After that It became routine. I just knew. I can’t say that I find this comforting. I have learned to live with it.

  11. my mother with stellium in scorpio saw and felt it before it happened, it really is terrible. its a wave of helplessness but also they gave her a sign that its nearing the end. I remember when she saw the outlines of my grandfather and her niece; a ethereal golden halo around but it was the feeling that washed over her that it would be the last time she saw them. Less than a week later they both died. I dont have stellium in scorpio but i notice i do have a stellium in 8th house. I never thought much of it, but mine are feelings that overcome me. I’m in the same room with someone who has cancer as an example, and while everyone believes they will go into remission like they did before i just start crying uncontrollably. I’m embaressed i keep crying and i cant stop.I dont know why. they ended up passing away few days later. my husband is scorpio sun; no stellium or 8th, he has more seeing future premonition (maybe thats his stellium in sag)

  12. Nataliya I have moon conjunct Neptune & that’s conjunct Mercury in Scorpio. I sense things and sometimes I don’t know what to do about it. For instance,yesterday I found myself just tearing up since I see that a friend’s relationship is ending…but it is too emotional for him to discuss. With this Jupiter in Pisces, I sense more than ever…it is a little eerie.

  13. 8th house Sun and Mercury. I often sense death and other things. I can’t remember ever being surprised by someone close to me dying. I’ve even seen it in celebrities sometimes. Is it their energetic signature, or some other clue they’re exhibiting? I wish I understood it better, too, but I definitely take it for granted that I get premonitions. I’m grateful because it softens the blow to some extent.

    • I guess I should add that I have Neptune conjunct Venus in Scorpio on my descendant, opposite Jupiter. I don’t know if that’s helpful, Elsa.

      • I’m an aries 8th house Sun.. From a young age I’d get sad and anxious around old people. I was young and couldn’t understand my feelings. It wasn’t until I got older that I realized I was sensing the end for them.

        • I also just remembered lol- Random people will just pop into my head. A celebrity for example. I’ll hear their name in my head and then like 3 days later they pass away. So sometimes I get scared when random people pop in my head like “oh no are they next”?! It causes some anxiety for me figuring out if they are deaths coming or something else. Also been happening from a young age.

  14. I’m a Capricorn but my Saturn is in Scorpio. I’ve sensed it before and most recently (last year), my own mother (she died this year from terminal cancer but when I was sensing death for her last year our family didn’t lnow she had cancer [again]) sadly. I’m weirdly drawn to morbid things from a far (like true crime) but I’m terrified of death up close and personal.

  15. Thanks Elsa for this interesting 8th house subject.
    My AC is in Scorpio with Neptune sitting on it sextiling Moon/Pluto in Virgo. My 8th house is a Gemini, Mercury in it making quincunx to the AC/Neptune.
    Uranus is on my MC.
    I am also an Astrologer. When I look into a chart the first time, I frequently get a “strong knowing” about the person in question or a situation that person will encounter. Death has been among those sudden revelations. I then put those impressions aside in order to interact in more “neutral” way with the client. However, these strong insights have always turned out to be true, also in other live situations.

    It would be very interesting, dear Elsa, if you could analyse the house and planet positions/aspects of the people who have responded positively to this phenomena here.

    • I too have Scorpio asc with Neptune conjunct, sextiling uranus and Pluto in my 10th. I have sun in Cancer in 8th and also mercury conjunct Venus in Gemini in 8th. Lilith conjuncts my Neptune. I am an astrologer too but also do mediumship work. It is was so nice to read your comment and your planetary placement is so similar! It seems we have similar chart, do the same work and have similar experiences!

      • How interesting, Mary! So, you are a bit younger than me, I am just guessing, born 1963? And your moon?
        I would be interested in how you got into mediumship work.

        • Yes correct. I was a tv reporter for years, met my biological mom who was an astrologer. She said I was more intuitive than all of her psychic friends put together. I didn’t believe her! LOL. Saturn return pushed me to do the work after a series of events and left me with out a job. Mom trained me on the tarot and astrology and then I pushed by friends to do the mediumship work. Didn’t want to. But ended up being good at it and here I am 30 years later. It’s a good life. Wonderful to connect with someone who has similar chart. I know you are good at what you do.

  16. 🦂Scorpio Stellium in the 2nd, including Ascendant ruler, 3 of them sextiling •Pluto. ☄️Mars in 🦂Scorpio, in that Stellium, ruler of 🐑Aries♈️🔥 8th, sextiling Ascendant.

    At one time I became enamored with the idea of becoming a biker, wanted to buy a ‘Pan-European’ to go on long travels (Jupiter square Ascendant). About that time I was starting to learn Astrology. When it dawned on me my 8th House was 🐑Aries♈️🔥 I knew it would be the ☠️Death⚰️ of me so I set that idea aside. With bikes your body is the bumper, usually there’s no second chance.

    We are not well understood and people are afraid of us.

    I’ve had people come to me after they’ve passed. It’s like I’ve got this mission to assist them afterwards to ensure they move on positively. I could do this as a profession. I’ve also assisted the living after they had relatives passing it doesn’t matter how long ago, and I can see them changing afterwards.

    As far as I know, having 💀dead⚰️ people latching on to the living is one of the greatest causes, if not the only cause, of depression and suicide. Yes, something can be done and it’s not even that difficult. Times have changed.

    Also, people have been being duped that the rising ☠️☠️Deaths⚰️⚰️ in the 🌍World are caused by this or that reason that’s being promoted. It’s not. It’s hordes of 💀dead⚰️ people panicking that the 🌍World is going to end latching on to the living and (let’s hope) unwillingly killing them as a consequence. Maybe the people writing here can do something about it when someone close is falling into that condition, now that you know.

    I read your email and this article on the day I’ve got a wake to go to and tomorrow the funeral. I was thinking of not going but reading your article made me toughen up for it is a mission of mine, not the only one but this one is undoubtedly one of them.

    Recently I had a really old close relative on the verge of ☠️dying⚰️ and, after I assisted with energy therapy, I started smiling and felt calm and 🕊Peaceful🕊, this from the knowing that, contrary to all indications, that person would not die. I just knew it. The person next day went to the hospital and had a surprisingly quick recovery. Also all signs indicated the person would become bed ridden or needing permanent nurse assistance but I told everyone the person would fully recover to a state equal or better than before and so it happened.

    ☠️Death⚰️ has always been a subject that has fascinated me and I’ve never been afraid of.

    Now I have to get ready to go to that wake.

    I’m very ✨Grateful 🕊✨ for the sense of duty you have, Elsa, of sharing these matters that are really uncomfortable to the common folk in a world where people tend to hide everything that bothers them or they feel it’s weird. Magnificent work you do for Humanity, I’ve said it before and I repeat it. ✨Gratitude 🕊✨ to you! 🤗

  17. Pluto conjunct Sun, packed 8th house, lots of Scorpio.
    Only once have I ever known someone was going to die, and she was a stranger, and I never said a word.
    To me, this earthly life and the so-called ‘Other Side’ are a continuum. I talk to ‘dead’ people all the time. The tunnel is short, the veil hardly exists. People to whom I’m not really close, come to me after their ‘death’ with urgent messages for their loved ones (the first time this happened, though, I was terrified).
    I wasn’t born with this attitude, it developed over time.
    I am not afraid of death at all, though the thought of dying painfully and hitting destitution on my way there terrifies me… Death as my next big step excites me, because I know we are all immortal.
    Once I knew this, relative strangers sought me out to tell me about their sadness at a loved ones death, and I was able to tell them that far from being gone forever, the loved ones were not only still around, but were far more aware of what was really going on than when they were incarnated. AND that they would be reunited one day.
    It doesn’t matter AT ALL if you didn’t tell them often enough, or even didn’t ever tell them all that you loved them – THEY KNOW!
    I see this as quite a big part of my life’s work, and I am pleased to see that over the years many people now have similar ideas, not through anything that I did, but the idea is sortof ‘out there’ now.

  18. I sense death too. I know when someone is on their way out like they have turned a corner. I have saturn in Scorpio in 8th house squaring my stellium on leo so I’m not sure if I’m a classic 8th house person. Pisces asc and moon in 12th house, maybe that increases my intuition.

  19. When I was in college, my bus route passed by one of my city’s main hospices for very poor terminally ill people. Mostly cancer and aids. People would ride the bus to this hospice and check themselves in daily. I have come to recognize the dying this way. They all had a similar dimming of the eyes look about them. Thinking back, it was a weird way to start the day.

  20. Oh my – this post is excellent – thank you for putting this info in plain sight.

    I have had this my entire life and learnt from a very, very young age to keep my mouth shut with my thoughts to myself. I got scolded by my nanny, then my mother, so I learnt after a thorough smacking with a leather strap to keep quiet at all costs!

    The knowing without knowing why – it just is what it is. Sometimes I would feel a sadness, other times I just ‘knew’ I would not see them again. Having to feign surprise to those close when I knew otherwise is the hardest, for if I ever told the truth, they would then ‘blame’ me.

    For myself, it is the ‘lights’ as you say, going dimmer – be it the eyes or the body’s ‘glow’. Sorry, I do not know how else to put it.

  21. i’ve known when i was seeing someone for the last time even when their passing was a couple years out. sometimes it’s a lot faster. last time i had to leave the room sooner than i wanted because i didn’t want to start bawling in front of them. i wanted them to remember being loved.

  22. I do the same thing. I had 2 sisters diagnosed with cancer last year. I knew one would be ok the other would not make it. I had a cousin diagnosed with cancer 10 years ago.. knew she would be ok.

    • Im like that too Opalina. I always knew who would be ok and who wouldnt. I have a friend whose girlfriend had a tumor removed. She moved into his house. He said she was convalescing and it would be a long process. But I know she wont recover. I keep my perceptions to myself tho. I seem to know moon in Taurus in 8th house. Virgo stellium(sun uranus pluto) in 12th. Pisces in 6th

  23. Great post, Elsa! I went through a period where the spirit world was louder than humans in my life. It was in 2012-2014 when Transiting Pluto was conjunct my Mercury in the 12th trine Natal Pluto in the 8th which is sextile Neptune on the MC. CRAZY time. They were so intrusive, I felt nearly forced to read for people as the spirits were so loud. It was an intense time, and I wasn’t sorry when it calmed down. I could probably tap in again, but I don’t have the desire. It was a lot when I was going through it. I’m so comfortable with death and also know when someone is fading away. It’s just a feeling of understanding death and being comfortable with it.

  24. Lol, sensing death you say?

    Triple Scorpio here…
    It’s only a month ago I told my BF that Twitter wouldn’t be here anymore very soon.

    Fast forward to this week and boy, was I not surprised to see a certain billionaire fuqing up a media platform for good.

    Totally Mars Rx / Pluto pre Aquarius vibes.

    The crashing of the mountain goats on top of the mountain has begun.

  25. I have Pluto in 8th house and a lifelong experience with death due to being child of older parents plus loss of all immediate family including twin at 33 so now sole survivor. One friend even died the same night after having dinner with him classic case of him thinking he had indigestion . He went to the car to get some bicarb soda. I had stepped outside restaurant because I was worried and then realised I was watching a ghost as he walked to his car ie he was going very soon. I am a nurse so have seen a lot of death. Another time in airport waiting area looked at a man and saw he was going to die very soon maybe on flight. I wanted to warn airline staff. He did die.. It’s good to share this and know it is normal for some people. Also my twin had no cardiac history & presumably fainted but in emergency I grabbed the triage nurse urgently & said ” she’s really ill I think she will die”. I had realised a week earlier her shortness of breath was not just cigarettes it was cardiac. My nurse brain got it my sister brain denied it. ? Neptune 10th opposite my sun in 4th .I used to think I had a 7th house Pluto due to chart I had done in my twenties in late 70ies but have renewed almost compulsive interest in studying Astrology the last 6 months and I’m discovering so much about myself & others. ? Pluto transit on late Capricorn asc opp Uranus & Jupiter in Cancer. Im fascinated by & watch a lot of NDE having had the long ie reincarnational view of life since learning Transcendental Meditation again in my twenties. It’s great to hear people sharing their experiences as the topic isn’t readily adapted to social situations.!!!! That’s my Mars in Gemini being flippant.

    • That is powerful to hear that your 8H Pluto gave you lifelong experience with death. I have Pluto in the 1st, empty 8th, and a lot of scorpio in the 3rd, which had me never knowing any old or dying people- no grandparents in my life, no cousins, no aunts or uncles. Ok, maybe friends my sister’s ages died but they kept me far away from it so it wouldn’t traumatize me. Sorry to hear about your twin.

  26. Don’t forget that Mars is the ‘old’ ruler of Scorpio…
    And Saturn was the ‘death planet’ until we became aware of Pluto…
    The most prominent feature of my natal chart is a yod with the South Node at its apex. The two quincunxes leading to it are Pluto and Mars. This also means that my North Node (in 8h) is at the yod’s focus – am I getting this terminology right?
    I only discovered this yod when I decided – (or decided?) – to include the South Node in its array of points. The yod has really pulled my chart together and also opened it up. Before, all my main planets were squinched together in the southwest corner of the chart.
    Since I posted here in November, I have recalled that, far from only once knowing when someone was going to die, it has happened dozens of times in my life. I just didn’t really trust the feelings back then.
    I’m sorry too about your twin, Kate.
    I had a similar experience with a very close friend and indigestion that was really a heart attack, at a restaurant. I knew he was going to die, but he adamently refused my suggestion to take him to the emergency room. He had spent the previous year travelling around the world, making peace with everyone with whom he had been at odds – and before that he had been at odds with EVERYONE. He was a Taurus (which, as we all know, is opposite Scorpio). I guess he was really determined to go.
    I have Mars in Gemini too, Kate, at the one end of my bundle horoscope config. It’s trine Neptune, at the other end of the bundle.

  27. I only hope and pray that I too will be OK of letting go of this world when it’s my time to go like your Taurus friend.
    My family and I are very close and love each other very much (thanks to a wonderful Scorpio mom we had and a very affectionate and dependable dad) and we are passionate about our children. We are all still relatively young and hope we will still be close as we get older.

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