Sagittarians Telling the Truth – God Help Us!

sagittarius seasonI was dating this guy once, a Sadge rising. I’d met him in a restaurant for a big date. This was a really big date, he planned to propose to me after dinner. He had the ring in his pocket and here’s what happened instead…

We were sitting in a booth when he spied a gal he knew at a table behind me. The woman was a local celebrity. She was a household name in the area, at a level akin to a local news person.

He nodded in her direction. “Look. XXXXXX is over there. Do you know her? Do you know who she is?”

I glanced over my shoulder. “I’ve heard of her,” I said.

“We had sex once,” he said.


“We had sex once. I had sex with her.”

“Why are you telling me this?” I asked with my eyes wide for emphasis, in an attempt to stop him.

“It was at a party.”

“So? Why are you telling me this? I don’t want to hear about it,” I said, getting hot. I felt my cheeks heat up and just hoped he’d stop.

“It wasn’t that big a deal,” he said.

“I don’t want to hear about it,” I said. Shut the fuck up, I thought. I was getting visuals.

“Sheesh, Elsa. It was only one time. It was no big deal. She’s actually a lesbian, er… mostly.”

“I really don’t want to hear about this. I really don’t want to hear…”
leo vintage yellow cup“I can’t believe this bothers you,” he said interrupting me. “It’s no big deal. She was pretty drunk. I was drunk too.”


“Why not?”

“Are you fucking kidding me?” I asked, leaning in from across the booth to stare at him.

“Elsa. It was nothing. Really.”

Well, I could see he was not going to let it go. Fucker. I felt all hot and like I was going to cry so I decided to bolt. I grabbed my purse and coat, stood up, leaving him with the salad on the table. I headed to the door with my chin up in Leo Venus style. He followed.

Guess what he said on the way through the door, right as we passed the maitre d.

“IT WAS JUST A BLOW JOB!” he blurted out. And then again with the, “She’s a lesbian, Elsa! For chrissakes, come back here so we can talk about this!”

I left the restaurant and shut the heavy wooden door on him, leaning against it so he couldn’t come out while I pulled my keys from my purse.

Keys in my hand, I released the door so he could watch me walk across the street. I remembered my sister’s words. “Make sure they see your ass walking away. Let ’em try to shake that memory…”

I deftly unlocked the door to my car, got in and drove off leaving him standing in the street where my car window used to be.

Later, he explained himself.

“I love you. I want to get married and I want you to know everything about me.”

“Oh brother.”

See it didn’t matter if I wanted to know or not. The truth was being told, but not for my benefit. It was pretty much shoved down my throat. In hindsight, I still think this guy needs to learn to shut up.  In hindsight, he probably thinks I’m hopelessly hung up. You know. “If you can’t handle the truth…”

Having that wee bit of Libra in my chart, I can see both sides.


Sagittarians Telling the Truth – God Help Us! — 65 Comments

  1. Gemini here with Sadge ASC, Jupiter, Uranus, & Neptune (all Rx) and communication has always been a struggle for me.. but now that I’m older, telling the truth has become important to me and just generally makes things a lot easier. Unfortunately though with Mercury in Taurus I think long and hard before I actually say anything, even after the moment is long gone!! I guess its b/c my mom always told me you can’t take back words that cut no matter how many times you say sorry!!!

  2. hehe, i always CTRL+F these older comments to see whether my past self responded and what i might have said. nada apparently. hey, what happened to loonsounds anyway?

    i do see geminis and sags as two sides of the same coin – they’re both hyperactive, talkative, energized. geminis i get more of the sketch factor from…though i think the truth often eventually comes out with them. i’ve got a sag moon (trine merc-jup in leo) and a tendency to speak my truth…but not as insensitively as this dude. tooooootally self-serving.

  3. Gawd Elsa, I have Sag rising with Venus conjuct Mars in Sag in the 1st House! I so get this guy unfortunately. I’ve had to apply discipline to even learn to reign the energy in and it has blown up in my face. I’ve had 2 Leo men walk away in the same dramatic way you did. But see it helps to lighten up all my packed Scorpio planets and ..I can never hold onto a grudge!

  4. most sags i know have some degree of foot in mouth disease… but also enough verve and bravado to play it off, most of the time.
    i think that’s one of the reasons they’re entertaining.

    and i’ve seen a gemini be far far more deadly with the truth than any lie could be. and they can play their cards close. for example, say, if they have a four planet eighth house stellium. but there is a certain reality distortion around them. although i think perhaps all the mutable signs are capable of that in different fashions.

  5. Sagittarius – with an blunt honesty problem…and in our (honest) defence…we say these things to others because we don’t believe that others might be hurt by what we say! We wouldn’t be hurt by them, so why would someone else?

    Also, we have no problem being brutally honest with ourselves about EVERYTHING.

    What is a matter with everyone else? (LOL)

  6. Wow. I never knew about the Sag thing. This makes a lot of sense. I severed a ten-year friendship with my Sag-Sun best friend, after she blurted a secret I had told her in the strictest confidence. This was not the first time she had blurted secrets, but it was the worst. Especially because I know it was just in the name of a good story, and good gossip. My Scorpio Moon just won’t have it. I don’t miss her.

  7. I always thought it was Pisceans who were the liars. Geminis strike me as more schizophrenic. I’ve been married to one for a while now and my mother was also Gemini. Neither of them exactly lie. But they will say the most outrageous, usually cruel or strange or manipulative things and then later blink at me and say that I’m making it up.

  8. Hi, Sagittarius here.
    I don’t have this problem, actually the opposite.
    In relationships and friends I am open and honest, but in social circles and in my job, I have difficulty telling the truth because I know it hurts.

    What about this? I’m Aquarius rising, maybe my Virgo Moon in eighth house.

  9. “See it didn’t matter if I wanted to know or not. The truth was being told, but not for my benefit. It was pretty much shoved down my throat. In hindsight, I still think this guy needs to learn to shut up. In hindsight, he probably thinks I’m hopelessly hung up. You know. “If you can’t handle the truth…”

    This.. happened to me recently with a Sadge… Much as I would have liked to go back to him.. he can never shut up long enough. I know Sadges are all about honesty, but where is the filter? There is none.. just becuz u can .. doesn’t mean you always should… like no one asked him all that… oh well

  10. Sounds like he reacted based on what he thought your reaction meant. I’m guessing he thought you were hurt, or jealous, and reacting because of that. Oblivious to the fact you might have just thought it was insane TMI and really… classless/rude a thing to not only bring up but go on and on about.

    • Also as a rising Sag… I hope to God I don’t do that! I hope something internally smacks me upside the head. As many times as necessary.

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