How To Break An Addiction To Destructive Relationships

I just finished working with a client who continually chooses and becomes obsessed with men much older than she is. This is for her.
Have you identified patterns that doom your relationships? You can break those patterns – here’s how!

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  1. Great video Elsa–thank you

    I like your last statement…my father says something similar (about the void, but he uses a different word for it). Very sound advice.

  2. Gosh, I just emailed my friend that I have to stop attracting Scorpios… This is what I needed to hear and how to stop my cycle.

    Thank you.

  3. thank you elsa.

    you are so strong and sturdy that sometimes it seems daunting to take your advice, cause it’s easy to doubt i have the same strength,

    but when you talk about the trials and tribulations you have overcome, and are still so strong and sturdy in my minds eye—i have better faith that i can do it, too

  4. And here’s the punchline or the update to this…

    Of all things, I later found / realized I was far more suited to Scorpio with Aquarius rising, which is basically the same chart upside down.

    As one example, my lifelong friend, Ben is a Scorpio with a Leo rising as was the AMF, my last bf before I got with my husband. Much, MUCH better situations and I’d have never found this out had I kept going, going, going.

    Matter of fact, I was headed straight for my own demise with that combo, LOL. Whew!

  5. Ditto {{Lona}}…it’s hard to do when you are in the middle of something like this..but Elsa’s wise words give me hope for when and if this thing I am in ends. After that I can say NO!! Until then I am happy being miserable but hope to be happy to be happy one day!

  6. Yes. I keep attracting/am attracted to Taurus. Man after man after man. Taurus Sun, Taurus Moon, Taurus Mars… since I was 12, maybe even younger. I have finally, in the past few months, realized that it’s not funny, or exciting, or coincidental anymore… it’s painful. Perhaps it was the Cardinal Grand Cross that brought me to this. I can now step into my new life, with new people.

    Thank you, Elsa, for bringing this kind of addiction to light.

  7. Omg! I am soo attracted to Capricorn men or men with mars in scorpio… it starts out fine and then ends with the realization that they have no appreciation or respect(sooo imp for the capricorn vibration) for the real me and it’s just so sad!! I’ve figured out that it’s an unhealthy attraction to power struggles and the root of it is probably in my childhood and relationship with my father.. our charts just cause roadblocks for each other and are challenging so I go look for that same dynamic because it feels familiar and safe…

    But this makes sense that it’s never going to work since it’s nothing new and just a repeat of old patterns.. I do hope I can break this too..

    Elsa can you please repeat and clarify the statement about creating a void .. I think you meant that the universe will always fill a void .. But what if you want a relationship, just not badly enough?? because you feel burned, or unwilling to give up your space, independence or not sure you’re ready or it just doesn’t seem so attractive (because of all the work) at the moment.. but what if you know you want to eventually be in a good relationship.. is there a moment when things start to gain momentum/change/manifest.. or is that a willed state of being (willing/wishing it into being) Any thoughts on that Elsa??

  8. When I read this:

    “I think you meant that the universe will always fill a void .. But what if you want a relationship, just not badly enough?? because you feel burned, or unwilling to give up your space, independence or not sure you’re ready or it just doesn’t seem so attractive (because of all the work) at the moment.. but what if you know you want to eventually be in a good relationship.. is there a moment when things start to gain momentum/change/manifest.. or is that a willed state of being (willing/wishing it into being)”

    You clearly aren’t willing to get in the game… so no game. 🙂

    As to when your feelings change, who knows. One day you wake up lonely and say wtf?

  9. Thank you. Cancer risings are from here on out verboten. Btw, you are coming across as so content, relaxed, happy and secure on your recent videos. It’s a joy to watch.

  10. I kind of read this to say that sort of: “something comes up, it always does,” because the void is the 12th house and the twelfth house is the house of faith and surrender. The minute a thing dies something is being created, something new or at least new-to-you. It doesn’t have to be your soulmate. It could be the killer full moon that is out there tonight.

  11. eva, that phrase tracks back to the beginning of this blog when I would get these women writing for advice. They were always so confused as to how they woke up in bed with their boss and what not. It was like it was mysterious or something. He looked at them. They looked at him. Next thing you know, this dick is in them and they’re sayin’ “Hey Elsa, what should I do?”

  12. you know, I used to luuuuuvre Aquarian men– (Suns). I was burned by every last one. Just thought of this now…yes I indeed swear them off, and this was before astrology was even that important to me.

  13. What about those of us who don’t have legions of boyfriends to dissect? I went from a 10 year relationship into an 11 year relationship.

  14. Wow Awesome Video Elsa. I always looove your videos. My pattern is either my relatioships dont get off the ground because neither admits feelings or I dont let on my feelings in a direct way. So I must stop this and well admit admit admit and put it on the line! Got it. And I know exactly who to use it on 😉

  15. My most recent ex is a Sagittarius Sun/Leo Moon/Aquarius Rising.. the one that put me off from any more sexy Sadges. Ah, and sexy they are..

    Damn it, haha. 🙁

    • OY!
      Sadges
      Total understatement!!!!!!
      Very sexy, but why so difficult to be with them? Not enough room for 2 people in the game, i guess…?

  16. I seem to have an Aries addiction. I can think of at least 5 boyfriends in my life that were Aries sun signs. I’m not so sure about their rising signs, though…wasn’t as into astrology back in the day to even know about rising signs! Thing is, when you meet someone new…how do you know right away if they’re Aries (or whatever your poison is)? I think it would be weird to just say, “Hi, I’m so and so, and by the way…when is your birthday?”

  17. I always thought it was my Leo addiction which was the problem, even though two of my biggest disssasters were Aquarius suns… but in the last couple of months since I’ve been on these boards, and pulling up charts, I’ve realised it’s even more to do with the combination of Leo and Aquarius in all their charts which is the critical mix which poisons me

    And it turns out they almost all have this combination – but while I’m dazzled by the compulsive attraction given off by their Leo I’m then poleaxed by the emotional detachment and/or absence of their Aquarius.

    Sadly it’s a bit late in my life to learn this lesson… but I advise anyone young enough to profit from Elsa’s advice to pay attention here!

  18. I seem to have a thing for men with watery Suns and/or Moons. Most of them with tons of issues. This has never been good for me.

  19. The only guy that seems to be addicted to me is a sun/scorpio with a leo/rising, we were together for 11 years and I wanted out of the relationship not him. He still calls me everyday. I seemed to be addicted to men with virgo/rising and gemini somewhere in their chart. I’m not sure what the hell to do b/c all the men I’ve dated have different sign suns and ascendants.

    So what else could I possible look at Elsa to recognize my addictions in relationships?

  20. The only thing I’ve noticed, My step-father’s Moon is in Pisces, My daughter’s father, moon in Pisces, and out of ALL the Men i’ve dated, only ONE stands out, the one I fell HARD for, wanna guess? Yep Moon in Pisces. Thing is, my stepfather is a liar, my daughters father is a liar, the other one, I suspected was a liar. NOT good for me, I start lashing out at people like this. (liars) Guess it doesn’t help that their moons fall in my 12th house. I’ve physically hit these 2 men, and the person I always wanted to hit was my stepfather. I’m lucky I’m not in jail.

    I think I’m looking for my stepfather in relationships so I can work on my anger towards him. Clearly I have issues with my moon in pisces stepfather. Maybe I should work on that. Thing is, with the two men, I felt LOVE. Just NOT with my stepfather.

  21. @Morgan u answered my question thank u.
    My father was a Gemini and he was unavailable and unemotional I seem to be attracted to men that have gemini somewhere in their chart. So i suppose the isolation, loneliness and anger I feel is probably me trying to heal those psychological destructive addictions. Never considered that this addiction could be the childhood pain I felt from my father.

    I remembered waiting on my dad to pick me up. He said he was coming to get me and never did. I looked outside the window for him for hours. He never showed up and not knowing this would affect me later in my adult life. I noticed men who aren’t available for me emotionally I’m drawn to them. I actually relate that to love. I need to heal this shit and move on.

    Thanks again Morgan and Elsa for posting this thread.

  22. I have to disagree on the void thing, I really do. I have had massive voids in my life for years and they were not filled, and that’s not just in man/woman relationships either. Even when I was trying to fill the void with men, I rarely caught one– and when I was feeling full, they weren’t happy.

    My version of breaking the cycle is just living with the void and not trying to fill it with a human that I’m going to strangle with too much clingy and drive up the wall anyway. I may be conflicted now, but even when I wasn’t conflicted, usually nobody was coming along to fill me. So sorry, I just don’t buy it.

  23. Elsa,

    I’m a woman Scorpio with a Leo rising, and after watching this video clip, I am very grateful you were so kind and awesome in the reading we had a little over a year ago! So, thank you!

    BTW, it’s due time for another reading…lots of changes. I’m dead set on clearing this destructive relationship pattern. I think I found my trap door. We’ll see…

    Speak to you in a couple of weeks.

  24. Yeah, *strange* that I felt LOVE. I had to do a *double-take* after READING my post. It was an eye-opener for me too, siddiyas. Thank you.
    By the way, my nick name, my aunt gave me when I was little was “Sidya”. (Short for my first name)

    I literally think that when you run into the same person over and over again, they’re energy is just stuck on you.

    I sometimes think that two biggest words in healing are “I’m Sorry.” People spend thousands of dollars on therapy for something they didn’t even do to themselves. And sadly, they never get that remorse from the other person. Sucks.

  25. @Morgan aka Sidya,

    All i ever wanted/want is an apology from those who have hurt me.
    This last guy I dated for two years off and on he has sun/sag moon/gemini, ascendant/virgo, mars & jupiter pisces, venus /scor, sat/sag–I have not heard from him since July 1. It hurts that he has not called or said anything about how much he’s sorry for hurting me. He never apologized for the evil things his mother has done to me. Instead he just ran away with no remorse or feeling. Once again, it goes back to my father stuff. Why should I care about someone who does not care about me, crazy huh?

  26. (((Elsa)))) Such a great video! Addiction indeed.

    This gave me so much hope, and so much strength. Just knowing that what I’m going through now others have gone through before, and hearing how you’ve survived through it, it really is like a family here. It’s like advice I would have loved to hear from my mother/aunt/sister etc etc.

    Thank you for always trying to make these videos and posts even if it’s hard. I, for one, am supremely grateful for them.

    many many thanks!!
    mia

  27. so soo wise 🙂 I like the part about creating a void– it does work. I had a fatal type attraction thing for years and years with pisces (same bday even) but now I attract mostly Taurus which are much more stable. good for my NN in Taurus

  28. eg I have a taurus north node too…I’m currently mingling with an aquarius woman…but Gosh I had been attracting capricorn women so long, and they are no good for my moon in pisces and saturn in scorpio. They are so cold…I know I probably am too though because I have a stellium in capricorn.

    Elsa…It’s very interesting that you attracted the same type of individuals. Did you know their charts before hand? I’m thinking obviously not, but maybe I’m wrong.

  29. Now if I could just get my brother to watch this it would be fantastic. He is a Gemini with a Leo Moon and a Cancer rising. First wife was a Scorpio, Second wife was a Cancer both marriages ended horribly he didn’t remarry for 8 years after the First wife. He dates but when they even hint at getting close he runs like he is on fire, What was weird to me both women were very much alike and though their signs are trine they act much alike also.

  30. thank you, Elsa!

    Last time I checked I still got attracted to guys that aren’t good for me. I guess I’ve been trying to solve my own issues by personalizing them.

    I actually look kinda forward to my 1st Saturn return. It seems like a good opportunity to work the issues.

    I’ve been rather happy about not having a partner these last years, because I’ve had too much to deal with. But I guess that kinda tell me how I view relationship as something bad. Not strengthening or supporting, just deep relation with someone who makes me feel like shit.

    I’ll change that Elsa – just give me some time 🙂

  31. Thank you Elsa! Great video and a perfect timing!!

    Yes I have noticed a pattern coming over and over again. They are not excactly the same signs, but they all have heavy cardinal (Aries,Capricorn,Cancer). now i know why

  32. @siddiyas
    I always used to think that the sorry from a “hurter” would help to heal but I have had some sorries ..what it led me to understand was that it made it no better knowing that someone was sorry or not, the hurt was still there. The sorry had to come from myself to myself for allowing these things to happen to me through lack of self love. Or accepting that sometimes we make mistakes and allow people to hurt us and then punish ourselves by seeking their apology, instead of forgiving ourselves our mistakes.

  33. @Elsa
    You are a beautiful, intelligent, insightful woman who helps others with her learnings and guidance. For most people this “service” is a dream fulfilment. I don’t know why it is difficult for you to video but believe they are fulfilling this purpose. You come across as witty, honest and a pleasure to listen to even if the content sometimes causes one deep soul mining. Thank you for them.

  34. Hi Everyone,
    My Aries friend waited 20 years before going to a dating site and straight away attracted her old nemesis–in this case a non-drinker, evasive, architect, deceiver, pretending not married, sexy European man. Happened to be a Neptune man.
    Her past was divorce from the husband she stole from another… architect, alcoholic,sexy European, cheated on her. Admittedly she’s not into affirmations and positive thinking but she knew to wait to let past influences go away. But 20 years! Wow!
    I attract ADD diabetics myself (smile) My ex commented about my new boyfriend…”Do you advertise for them?” There’s always a Jupiter effect in EVERY relationship also an ADD Jupiter son. My sun squares Jup.

  35. Great video Elsa. I totally agree we keep attracting the same types over and over again, until one day we wake up and say stop and create some space. Take time out, make a void. At which time, more often than not, if we are concentrating on attracting something new, and doing things in new ways, it comes. This is definitely true and has been my experience.
    Only thing I noticed, like you said you stopped with Leo rising to Aquarian, like upside down chart, we seem to attract the total opposite to us. What we lacked or decided we didn’t want in former relationship becomes the major thing we do want and find in the new one. This is strange….

  36. Absolutely true, and working way to change your pattern. Even if you always get man in marriage, or who has drinking problems…Just make a decision, say no and you can change the pattern. But why does it work? it is so unbelievable!

  37. Hi Everyone 🙂
    What a great and timely (Full Moon = release) video, Elsa!
    This is what I needed to hear at this exact moment, as I try to purge my overwhelming desire for unavailable men. It took me decades to realize that I was attracted only to men who were unavailable (physically and/or emotionally). All my life, I had crushes on boys/men who were “about to divorce,” did not want a relationship, or just plain ignored me. This carried onto my workplace, where I would have inappropriate crushes on co-workers who were already involved with someone else.
    Siddyas I totally understand where you are coming from. My father is a Gemini and an alcoholic. He was not in my life my first two years of life, he favoured my sister and we just never connected emotionally. So while I avoided men with addictions or bad tempers, I ended up with men who were similar to my father in terms of the neglect I felt and therefore, my emotional needs were never fulfilled.
    So during this full moon, I wish everyone who is also suffering from his/her own love addictions to just STOP, and enter the void.

  38. You are amazing, Elsa, a late blooming butterfly of honesty, truth, and happiness! I think the principle of quitting cold turkey applies to most patterns of behavior that can be identified by a person as usually having toxic outcomes.

  39. I needed to hear this again as I had posted in 2011 a response, but I keep attracting men who are not good for me. My ex-thinks he is the only one who really loves me and being a Virgo, that is just how he feels, though he is making it clear in his Pisces Moon way, that he does not want me back but does miss my friendship. I may be blocking filling the void with something better down the line. Yet it is so hard to say NO to him in continuing to be his friend. We have a pretty good friendship. But I do wonder if I am addicted to him as I have Moon/Pluto conj. on his Sun. Time to say NO?

  40. So funny to hear you say that “all your relationships were disasters”. I said this recently to a friend and they were taken aback, saying that not all their relationships were perfect but they weren’t disasters!
    Also, I quit cold-turkey on bartenders having learned my lesson. Next lesson? Quitting men who don’t appreciate/value me and who really would rather be somewhere else.

  41. I quite men full stop lol I seemed to attract the same guy
    emotional issues alcohol drug dependant abused and abusive cheaters and sex pests
    after this it helped reset my lack of self worth and other patterns
    I was worth more than this
    yes these people needed my help but not to end up walking all over me
    Such sound advice Elsa! x

  42. I’ve had three loves in my life. The first had a cap AC. The second, my ex husband, had a cap sun. And the third, a cap moon. While I’m a virgo sun with a virgo stellium (merc, uranus, pluto), I think my libra AC, mars/venus in leo and aries moon don’t mesh well with capricorns. After identifying this pattern, I stayed away from capricorns and in that time (3 years),I have had no relationships whatsoever! Sigh….so I’m not sure how to attract something different.

    Morgan raised something I hadn’t thought about before – her stepfather’s influence. So I dug up my dad’s birth certificate and found that my dad’s DC was capricorn.

  43. I used to be a magnet for Taurus, Pisces, and Cancer men. These men are awesome as platonic friends for me but, bad as significant others. I am an Aries,Cancer Rising, Cap Moon with Venus in Pisces.

  44. I have a pattern like this. I attract men with their sun in the 12th house. (Venus is conjunct Neptune in my chart.) I figured these men kept coming in to my life to show me what I wasn’t doing for myself. Shadow self kind of work. My attraction to them had a lot to do with my appreciation for their need for space and escaping. I was not escaping enough- taking on more than my fair share of responsibilities. So, when I would meet another man with the 12th house sun, I looked at it as a reminder to keep working on myself- adding into my life my own versions of “escaping” which constitutes going to the sauna and hot springs and taking baths.
    These relationships have forced me to grow. Our coming together and parting was always powerful and painful. I held on too hard with this last one. It was an inappropriate use of my power- loving him too much. More than he deserved so I could chase the dream of permanency.
    I believe that I am eventually meant to be with a man with his sun in the 12th house. But, he must have done his own work. He cannot rely on me to worship, be his “god”, or daddy. I know they are drawn to me because I feel like- I am!- a strong parental figure. (Capricorn moon trine Taurus in Jupiter with Saturn in Leo conjunct my ascendant.)
    So, I feel it is just taking time. Enough time for the world to challenge him (and me) to become self aware, find God within himself. I decided at one point that if I ever met another man with a 12th house sun, I would ask him: “Have you found God, yet?” (Meaning- have you realized your own power, that God is you?) Until the answer is yes- I am on my own.

    So, wouldn’t you consider it a testament to your power? Attracting Scorpio sun with Leo rising conjunct Pluto? Who else would someone with such a powerful signature be able to turn to to challenge them- force them- into self awareness, but another powerful figure?

  45. to me, saying “no” to the repetition sounds like.. you’re with one foot still on top of the rock and before jumping, at least you need someplace to put the other foot in sight!
    cannot be a plain “no” with no other options available, because the compulsive repetition is something my Self set up long ago for specific reason, so if the reason is still there, well hidden under layers and layers, I’ll keep on attracting the same type of people.
    very neptunian and plutonian-manipulative.over the last year many aries moon(I’ aries north node conj chiron and sun, plus aries saturn conj venus and libra asc.)
    trusting the universe to fill my void in with something different is an alternative for me.breaking down the old pattern always requires digging into something(moon-mercury-venus+ pluto),and outcomes are never about relationships only, but about myself in general…thank you Elsa, your video has a strong vibe

    • In my case, I was completely aware I was choosing the same thing over and over. You could call it research (8th house) and/or experimentation (with astrology) – I have Uranus in the 7th.

      In whatever case, I freely choosing to date these men. When I exercised my freedom to choose not to date them, no gun was put to my head, to force me to continue! 🙂

  46. I bought Elsa’s Finding Love with Astrology…. It’s an eyeopener. Bottom line is fall in love with what you see in front of you. Men do not change their spots. They are less emotional creatures and usually show their true colors. If something makes you wonder in the beginning…. it is because something is not the way it seems. Ladies trust your instincts!

  47. So many people dont know about the “Law Of Attraction” there lives would change if they would watch “The secret” by Rhonda Byrne, on youtube or get the DVD on eBay, this world would be a better place.

  48. Been through these before, come out of it internally stronger and self contained to a large extent… thank God!
    The power in these types of relationships is based on who needs who the most… If your the needy one, you’ll be disadvantaged big time!
    Solution? my advice is to find out why you are so needy… and deal with it so you aren’t so needy in the first place.

  49. I fall in love with the same exact man, with the same chart and the same aspects. All of my life. Their age changes, but that’s it. I thought I finally broke the pattern by taking a break and being alone, but then when I went out again, I met the same exact type of man with the same exact type of chart. Guess for me it’s karmic payback. I cannot make sense of it otherwise. It’s either love it or leave it and become a priest or a nun in drag.

  50. I know Lent just started and I made a commitment to give up sugar. This really reminded me of Lent. Because I gave up sugar, there is a void and I have to make other choices. I know I capable of living without it, but to take something out of my life that has been there for such a long time is a challenge. I’m so used to the routine. But I tell myself I’ll be better off. I know that Lent is about changing your routine so you’re more aware of your actions.

  51. Every other man, Sag with mars in Scorpio, then Aries with a Scorpio moon. This went on for years. Every single one a disaster but my god was I attracted to them, especially Sagittarius. If there was a Sagittarius man within 5 miles we would find each other and it would be on. I saw them as strong, and funny and full of life, and an absolute blast to go out with, tons of friends, hard workers, over achievers with a sunny attitude…..then BOOM….they never come home. They find a job where they are top earners but travel 3 weeks out of 4 and when they do come home they have invited 50 people to a barbeque in your back yard…..OMG…. Scorpio doesn’t want 3 people in the back yard….ever…and then eventually you find out they have been screwing the gal at work for months…. cos they spread it around ya know. At least the ones I attracted did. Then comes the war. Cos there is going to be a war. A war where no one survives because they have Mars in Scorpio and your fighting with 5 planets in Scorpio and eventually you win….but what is the prize. Both beat to death and nothing left but the ashes…..

    Thank you universe for sending me a Pisces…. a gentle loving Pisces. When I meet a Sag man I run so fast all that is left is the sparks flying off my heels………

  52. I used this technique after my breakup. My pattern was narcissistic sociopaths. I met probably three or four immediately after. I guess when you say no enough the universe is sure that you learned the lesson.

    Right now, I need to break another pattern. I think if I meet another guy who’s venus opposes or squares my pluto I should run the other way.

  53. Releasing your fear of being single. This discussion came up two weeks ago. I said to someone, “for you to break out of unhealthy relationships, you’ve first got to not fear losing the ‘relationship’.” If you are going to stake a claim, call a bluff or dare to dream, you better BELIEVE IN IT. See yourself free and released in positivity. Give yourself that. You owe it to yourself to just envision POWER FROM INSIDE. Once you do that, you can walk away from anything unhealthy.

  54. “…and you don’t just slip on a banana peel and land on someone’s dick either!! Er…” Mhahahahahahhh! 🙂 Lovely way to put it…Truth be told, I have managed to put myself in a situation with a married guy in the past, building a relationship that I thought was “friendship”… Denial is such a filthy little beast! I’m so glad I started running the other way when the sex vibes became obvious.
    But yes, much as it embarrasses me to think about it, if I hadn’t chosen to open my eyes, see what was happening, how I was contributing to it and then remove myself from the situation, I would have remained in a Neptune haze of “oh dear, how did *this* happen?” And I would probably come to Elsa like these women who wrote for advice…not realising that my own choices (again, denial) helped create this mess… I really do believe that if I didn’t have direct experience of first putting myself and then getting the fuck away from this kind of toxicity, I would have no clue what it is you’re talking about in this video! (“Say no? What do you mean say no? But there’s this *thing* between me and him…” yadayadayada…) Sad but true…
    Man, am I glad for this Pluto-Uranus transit of mine!

  55. I’ve had this issue with friendships or relationships with either Scorpios with a Virgo rising or Virgos with Scorpio rising. It always starts out with the best rapport “friendship forever” feeling and ends with bitter feelings when that person pulls away and leave a cold shadow behind…

    So–thanks to this–I will stay away from these people.

    • We must’ve met the same people. lol Did you have to fight over them with someone else too? Those Scorpio risings are irresistible

  56. I have Venus/Uranus/Pluto conjunct in late Virgo/early Libra. I went for the Aquarians, while the Taureans were attracted to me!

    The Taurus guys were the stable fallbacks, while the Aquarians were the fireflies I’d catch for a while and let go. I had major, and I mean major, commitment issues. I’m damn glad I woke up in my mid 20s! I knew I had to fix my issues before I found myself alone at 30 or 40. And lo and behold, no more Taureans or Aquarians came sniffing around, lol.

  57. I like your video, and wow pluto leo conjunct their leo rising and squaring their sun 13 out of 15. that’s amazing. the universe just keeps throwing them.
    it maybe something in your 7th house.
    I was with three aries venus men, it didn’t work. I really broke it after the 2nd but I guess the 3rd was maybe more, to show me, that there are aries venus men out there that are good, decent men. just wasn’t compatible enough for me. he had commitment issues. I went from two March men, one February, and lastly, my November man.

  58. Cut off the habit, go blank, create a void, the universe will fill it. Dear Elsa, you look a bit vulnerable in some parts of this video. I guess it’s because you’re telling a story that is revealing your own past weakness. Yet the last sentence, the one I quoted, gives hope. I know I need something like that to work. Thank you.

      • Elsa–you amaze always. For some reason I feel compelled to reply to this post- my dad had lupus — a gentle Virgo sun / moon libra– he continued to work as a grocer not knowing how sick he was. I also am grateful for this thread. It just clicked!!! I’ve got an addiction I’m trying to break– aqua, Scorpio and sag planets all over last 3 men’s charts- intense chem w me sun libra / moon aqua/ Scorpio rising/ mars sag but I always feel empty w each. Just what I needed Elsa at this new moon– to change gym membership on first of month tomorrow where a new aqua w moon Scorpio mars sag has been making eyes at me for months- he feels dangerous, bad communicator, moody but flirt– and at 60 I don’t see him changing. I thought I’d wait til his birthday later this week but gonna leave today. Thx Elsa!! Here’s to the void lovep

  59. I find that I’m usually attracted to Virgos with a Scorpio rising…unfortunately I’m usually fighting over them with someone else. lol I wish I could cut off my habitual attraction to these types but, damn, they’re smoking hot B-) Chemistry is not easy to replace

    • No it isn’t. And often well worth temporarily trading your dignity for no matter how much damage it does you. Until it’s severe and traumatic enough to cool you down for a while. And even then, once you recover, if no other options are available, tolerating mitigated degradation is still worth it for pleasure and satisfaction.

      • The actor Mark Harmon is a Virgo with Scorpio rising and one of the hottest men I have ever seen, so I can appreciate your attraction to them.

        • @Scottish, Mark Harmon is very handsome indeed! he’s almost as handsome as my favourite, Virgo Rising, Virgo moon and sun, cancer stellium 11th house Keanu Reeves. I also saw Mark Harmon has been married long term to Libra sun/Gemini moon Virgo venus/virgo mars Pam Dawber, that woman is very lucky! lol 😀

  60. Makes sense. I think Pluto square Sun or Moon indicates a person who must work at becoming conscious or they suffocate and manipulate anyone close to them. There is also the tendency to be very demanding. Scorpio must be the worst but don’t you think this is true of Leo and Taurus with a tight square by Pluto? I’m surprised you got them to give you their birth time since they are so controlling.

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