Popularity: Venus, Mars And The Ascendant

Kermit the Frog“Popularity should be no scale for the election of politicians. If it would depend on popularity, Donald Duck and The Muppets would take seats in senate.”
                                                                  –Orson Welles

What makes a person popular? You don’t have to be nice to be popular. You don’t have to physically attractive to be popular. To my mind, popularity is when the majority of people in your sphere want to be associated with you. There are lots of roads to the same destination, but one I’ve noticed has to do the Venus, Mars and the ascendant.

The ascendant/descendant axis is associated with Venus and Mars, Venus ruling the 7th and Mars ruling the 1st. Venus and the 7th house have to do with your aesthetic and what attracts you. Mars and the 1st house is associated with the way you act and how you go about getting what you want. The ascendant itself, the 1st house cusp, represents one’s appearance, both physical and that of the personality, how we’re seen on the surface.

Popularity is broad appeal. This broad appeal can be apparent in the chart. Venus trine, sextile or conjunct the ascendant is one indicator. Mars trine, sextile or conjunct the ascendant is another, although less strong. The stronger indicator, however, is both Venus and Mars in these aspects to the ascendant. Venus or Mars in the 1st and 7th houses also has play here.

When Venus and Mars agree with the ascendant/descendant axis, what one wants and how they act is in outward accord with how they appear. They’re easy to subconsciously categorize, pleasant, congruous, safe. People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors. They slide easily into “oh, he’s/she’s okay!” That makes for general popularity.

Popularity on an individual level, relating one on one, will have more to do with how that person’s chart interacts with the other individual’s chart. Being popular does not mean being truly liked by each person in the group.

Sometimes transiting aspects to the ascendant, Mars or Venus can result in temporary, “transitory,” popularity. Have you ever experienced this?

What is your take on popularity? What is it in the chart that you think makes a person popular?



Popularity: Venus, Mars And The Ascendant — 86 Comments

  1. I’m not popular, but I’m not a total outcast either (even when I feel like one – anxiety disorder developed in childhood). I was born popular/happy in myself, able to talk with anyone, and would happily do so.

    Uranus conjunct Scorpio ascendant, inconjunct Moon/Venus/South Node, trine Mars in Pisces.

  2. I am not popular because of my anti-social leanings but I find Sag,Leo, Libra, Aquarius folk most enjoyable to be around

  3. Although my Mars does conjoin my Ascendant in Aquarius, my Scorpio Venus Squares it.

    I’m memorable.

    But popular, I don’t know, I feel I’m the guy you’d say yes he’s a nice guy, but then overlook for an invitation. My first class reunion was odd, knowing myself as a loner, but every group thought of me as one of them, the jocks, the nerds, the peppy people, etc…

    At work everyone knows my name, without trying, I do make an impression, now weather it’s the right impression, again I don’t know.

  4. As for the other planets that aspect my Ascendant, the Moon with Chiron rx in Aries Sextiles, Uranus in Libra Trines, and Saturn rx also squares in a t-square with both Mars and Venus

  5. True, but getting two introverts into the same room together might be a bit of a challenge, sometimes. I know once I’m coerced out of my house to have fun I do, and I do like being around small groups of people, crowds can be allot, and even though lonely, quiet alone time has some benefits.

    Yes, If I found an introvert and we could convince each other to venture out that would be great, or an extrovert to bring me out of my shell, or someone somewhere between.

  6. My solar return this year will have Mars in Virgo with Orcus in my 5th house in a t-square with Neptune in Aquarius and Chiron in Pisces 10th house, and the Sun in Scorpio on the Decendant in house 6pladicus, 7equal. But Mars is also in a grand trine with one side in house 8 and Pluto in Capricorn, and the other side with Jupiter rx in Taurus house 1 and Lillith in Aries house 12

  7. I get along better with introverts, usually. I don’t mind them being quiet, I’m 50/50 on the scale of introversion/extroversion, and I don’t mind waiting for them to come to me, should they want to. I dropped out of school, because I hated the social crap, and just wanted to do my work at home.

  8. Didn’t mean to hijack the blog thread, It’s a great topic. Agreed so is introvert/extrovert, I can start a post on the boards for this, I didn’t have a topic for today, so this will work out nice.

  9. I’d say I’m still 80/20 at least. Was far more isolated before my current job, where I learned allot on social behavior of humans. If I take nothing else away from this job, I at least got that.

  10. I have a lot of scorpio, as I now know you do, Bruce. I used to think I was a threadkiller till someone told me that sometimes my comments were complete in themselves, and therefore they didn’t reply.

  11. Oh I have thought sometimes this too, but hijacking and being a thread killer is different, I do have a few posts on my history showing no further comments, but steering the topic off point even though related … well you said I didn’t.

    I found the topic was very interesting and tapped into a strong aspect in my chart.

  12. My Grandfather taught me that by his actions, my Grandmother, on my Mother’s side talked and talked and talked, and he just sat there, and from time to time gave me a knowing look as we both caught on about something in the conversation. It is from my Grandfather and also through my Mother that I got my strong sence of Empathy. Which does come out in my being an introvert.

    I don’t mind being an introvert. Popularity usually ends up finding extroverts due to their outgoing nature.

  13. OOps sorry, it happens, you can probably reel it in or repost on the boards. It’s okay to go off topic to it’s your thread, I liked seeing what people were commenting on the Venus/Mars/Ascendant thing.

  14. I used to be one of the quietest ones in the room (or on the board) taking things in, and feeling like I knew people, but with them not really knowing me, and my being too shy to extend myself/open up. Unfortunately, it took huge emotional upset, spilling, and then a chip on my shoulder, to shift the shyness. I now feel weird, and wish that I’d tried to get to know people when I was shy but happier in ways – some people thought I was weird, because I was so quiet, but I liked myself more then than I do now.

    I forgot to mention earlier, that in Equal House, Moon/Venus are in the 7th, at the end of the house. Placidus, they’re conjunct the cusp of the 8th. I can see them playing out in the 7th when I was smaller and talking with everyone – totally comfortable – and my wanting to be kind to everyone. I hate that I’m so prickly now, in specific situations. (Bruce, I’ve been isolated for a long time, too – deliberately when I was younger, and now not so much, but I still can only handle so much socializing.)

  15. I don’t know if I’m popular. I know I’m well-liked at work, I’m sure it’s because I’m very low-maintenance and low-drama at work. Just pleasant and getting the job done.
    My friends–well they’re my friends so of course the love me.

    Other people? I only socialize when I’m feeling my Sagittarius ASC best, and that keeps me welcome to come back. If not, I stay home and hide.

    I have Venus/Mars conjunct, sextile chart ruler Jupiter (which is in Gemini).

  16. l know a Pisces Asc Venus scorpio let’s say a well loved person…interesting.
    l have no aspects between the asc and venus/mars.
    l have Venus cnjunct Mars in Aries 8th h. my popularity as a person can be momentary, my work being accepted and appreciated is far more important to me, plus too many people would be too many puzzles to put together.. it drains me 😉

  17. Heh – I have Mars in Scorp conj ASC on the 12th house & Venus in Sagittarius conj the ASC in the first.

    pleasant, congruous, safe. People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors.

    Yup! Though I’m sorely lacking in “star power”, too many planets in the 12th. 😀

  18. My boyfriend is one of the most popular people I know. He is very outgoing, has loads of charisma, and he loves people…I think that’s why people love him.
    He is Aries rising with Taurus Venus on Ascendant
    with opposing Scorp Jupiter on Descendant
    There is also a tight trine from Neptune to his Ascendant/Venus, and I think that helps with the popularity, because you can sense the compassion and sensitivity.
    He’s also a Gemini so that helps with loving to converse with all types of people!

  19. Satori, all my life I’ve been (within my sphere and within what I could see) one of the most highly sought after – by both genders – one often put on a pedestal or emulated… and simultaneously one of the most detested persons I know.

    How do you explain something like that? 70% of the people I know are viewed in a neutral manner, i.e. they’re neither loved nor hated. I wouldn’t mind me some neutrality or consistency.

  20. Salali

    There was a quote in a movie that went something like, “What you are now doesn’t change who you are, be who you are, but sometimes be this too.” I try not to lose any part of me, I just try to discover how to allow myself to find the love I desire, and not cause and discord in the process, while being able to protect those I am responsible for.

    Satori and Paulo,

    “Mid Heaven signs/planets/aspects also tells about popularity.”

    I’ll look into it. And I’ll keep reading on the Venus/Mars/Ascendant thing. =)

  21. Hi all, I have mars conjunct venus (Cap) trine my Taurus Ascendant.

    People with this combination don’t set off internal anomaly detectors.
    I guess I can relate to this, not sure about popularity, but a general good will? I do try to be congruent.

  22. I set off alarm bells…then I try to hide further, which sets off more alarm bells, lol. Scorpio Ascendant, no aspects to it natally. Venus in 7th.

  23. Actually, I don’t know if I’m “popular” or not. LOL! But I have a Sadge Sun conjunct a Sadge Ascendant, Venus in Sadge, Mars in Scorpio and Jupiter in the 1st……….

  24. I have a virgo sun sign, a leo ascendant and a capricorn moon sign. My venus is in the first house and conjuncts me ascendant. My mars is in leo and also conjuncts my ascendant. I have found that people generally like me but i dont know if im popular.

  25. Hehe, now i know why i was so popular well liked by everybody and i mean everybody as i never gave anybody a reason to dislike or even hate me and i never understood it until now :). Excellent reputation, welcome everywhere, respected etc
    I have Mars square Asc Aqua, Venus conjun Ascendant (Saturn + Uranus Sextile asc aswell)

  26. I have Venus square my AC. I think this creates a bit of a problem. However, Venus is in dignity. I am very agreeable, I have manners, and I in general don’t take things personally, at least not as much as I did when I was younger. Mars is in my 1st house but is a bit too far from my AC to make an aspect. I don’t know that I have ever been popular, but the people who like me, really like and trust me.

  27. I have ascendant trine venus. I really don’t know. I guess I do have that kind of aloofness and detachment that makes people try hard to get to know me. I do catch people staring at me a lot. But then I make no impression on some people. Like I’ve met them five times and they don’t remember me.

  28. Grand trine with Libra rising, Vênus in gemini And mars in aquarius!
    I am taurus, i am more popular than i really thought i Was!

  29. I have Venus in Scorpio sextile Virgo Asc and Mars in Leo conjunct Virgo asc and i really do feel like i have a presence whenever I walk into a room but I wouldn’t necessarily call myself popular though.This Virgo rising isn’t always fond of the attention lol.

  30. I know this thread is super old.. But I feel compelled to add to it. I found it randomly searching the internet for knowledge about astrological aspects. I have mars conjunct venus in virgo my 5th house. I have both mars and venus trine my ascendent and midheaven. I was very shy when I was a young child and got bullied in school. But once I went off to college I became much more social and now consider myself a social butterfly. I always craved popularity when I was younger. I go out of my way to be nice to people, compliment them and I’m known for my great manners. I’m like that with everyone.. all the time. I have mercury, sun and pluto in Libra. I have a lot of friends and I’ve noticed that I feel happiest when I’m out with a big group of my friends. I like to think I’m popular…Great topic!

  31. My mars and venus conjunct my ascendant in pisces…and i am totally famous…plus a dash of jupiter uranus conjunct my MC in Sagittarius its nutz…jka4alaugh!

  32. Hm. I have Mars in my 1H at 27° and far from the AC but when I am comfortable in a group (Virgo) I will pop my head up and join (sometimes doesn’t take long! Mars!) I have Saturn in 7H, opposite my AC so I worry about my impression but Venus (5H) does trine my AC. How can you not like me? I don’t understand! lol

    You aren’t crazy about me? Whatever (Uranus conjunct AC) and I can turn on the enclosure bubble for protection (Pluto AC)

    Anyway, I am not raving wild TMZ-popular but I get along well with all groups even if I just sit back and take it al in.

  33. True, I’m definitely very popular!!
    Venus trine Ascendant
    Venus trine Moon
    Undeviated chart(Aries Ascendant)
    Libra Sun
    Leo Venus (5th house)
    Leo Mars (5th house)
    Virgo Mercury

  34. Saturn tops my chart and my Virgo ascendant quincunxes my sun and Venus, trines my Mars and Jupiter. Never been popular but am often respected.

  35. On a sadder note I am not popular with my family at all, and it is actually quite hostile, my manners and ways about me make some believe I may have a great family background which isn’t true in the slightest. I guess having these aspects make up for the loneliness in my life and the positive spirituality and moral grounds my family see only as weakness. It’s rough to put it lightly.

  36. Thank u for the welcome! I liked your post. Just one more question. How would it be if Pluto is added with Venus and Mars, where Pluto is conjunct Venus? All of them in Sag,Scorpio Asc. I guess it would be Fiery Scorpio with charm. The temperament would be aggressive, sporty but looks calm, pleasing, powerful and magnetic since, Scorpio ascendant won’t reveal much.

  37. Whoa! I have all the aspects given above.
    Aries Ascendant
    Leo Venus trine Aries Ascendant
    Leo Mars trine Aries Ascendant
    Moon trine Venus
    Mars in 5th house
    Venus in 5th house
    Undeviated chart (Aries Rising)
    Libra Sun
    Aries Moon

  38. My best friend has sun and mercury in 11th house and she is really popular. She has so many friendship groups. She sees her friends like family. She also has uranus and jupiter(both aquarius) 7th. So i think 7th and 11th houses are important for being popular. Also my another friend has uranus(capricorn) conj venus(sagittarius) and even she is not so popular in real life she is so popular in internet. Uranus and venus with good aspects maybe not always make people popular but they are making friends easily. They don’t like ordinary people and maybe thats why they are not popular in real life.

  39. My mom has Venus conjunct Mars in Leo in her Asc and she is quite stunning. She is popular , but her Sun conjuncts Pluto. Like you said, not everybody likes her. But she definitely gets noticed.

    I have Mars trine Asc trine Ur/Jup- grand trine. Venus (wide 7-8°) trine Asc. I’m probably popular. Def not famous (my Ur/Jup is in the 4th), but probably popular. Uranus rules my 7th house.

    Interesting topic. 🙂

  40. Aqua asc Mars conj Venus, I think people know me well, at work or social circles, but not sure if they like me much, most think I am very proud…

  41. I didn’t want to be friend popular. I want to have the choice and ease you have when you’re pretty rather than the wretchedness and the being cast off when you look so bad. And in my case do nothing about it. I’m sure once I got a certain popularity with men I would ruin it but… After every night of only gray haired homeless creeps leering at me, I wonder if I’ll ever get a date again or have someone interested in me who isn’t twenty plus years older than me. And I cry and whine in self pity and don’t slather creams or try

  42. I tend to obsess about things and spin my wheels until they go away. Especially during my Pluto transit when I yell and listen to no one’s advice and run from destiny. People sometimes tell me it’s vain and shallow to obsess about being attractive to men you like or wish your phone was blowin up with texts like it used to. But I see women who claim to be mature and wise get older and just stay single.
    I tend to white knuckle grip life and notice every change. People usually redirect my attention when I start whining about this or give me advice. I have Pallas in Leo the seventh and don’t tend to learn until someone gives me a push. My Leo stellium friend said it best

  43. I’m through my SR. What am I doing wasting my youth on this. I also have sixth house and believe some deep health problems are the culprits of my faces crappiness. I have leaky gut I guess and no way to heal it

  44. My Ascendant is in Aries,my Descendant is in Libra, Mars is in opposition to Ascendant.Mars in Scorpio in the 7th house trines Venus in Pieces in the 11th house. Am I popular? I would say, mainly men like me, but females don’t.Those, who hate me, are very active. The more I am popular the more they hate me.

  45. Venus and mars are currently transiting my ascendent in Aquarious. Man! People are treating me like the princess of Burma! Yeas, I would say that conjunction makes someone popular! I have never experienced anything like that in my life…
    I wish it would stick around forever lol !

  46. My husband was extremely popular in jr. high/highschool. Uranus in Scorpio conjunct Scorpio Asc, Scorpio Sun, Libra stellium of pluto/jupiter/mercury/Saturn in the 11th. He was a powerhouse, admired by everyone. He’s still a powerhouse, just more reclusive now.

  47. I have Venus conjunct Mars in Leo and both square my ascendant in Taurus. I don’t think “popular” is a word that could ever truly have been used to describe me. People have to break through the wall first (which is thankfully Venus-ruled, at least) to get to the good stuff. So this explains a lot.

  48. Aquarius on the ascendant.


    I am popular when around quirky people. Uranus even sextile my Asc, so that’s double whammy of the same energy. I have come to terms with that. I excel at being another spice and that my success and recognition comes from other sources than the bigger crowd. I am not actively seeking it but I am always somehow drawn in from this energy. It seems like a subconscious thing I am naturally inclined towards.

    My Scorpio Venus is conjunct Jupiter in the 10th opposite Chiron though, so a lot of charm and with it – empathy and depth of feelings – gives charisma but not necessarily popularity……

  49. Not really, more like the opposite. Cap rising, excess saturn, mars square ascendant, planets in water houses (But even so, there are moments when all the attention is in my direction, guess all that moon/neptune/uranus on the rising is not dormant forever) and it’s overwhelming altough nice to be honest because it happens rarely! I like fresh, positive, popular, charismatic people, in small doses. Most people I know that are like that fall under aquarius suns also pisces suns with sagittarius moons. Leo moons too. I like their vibe (especially with a pisces or gemini, virgo sun).

  50. Interesting.
    I feel as if a caveat is required.
    For example, I have Mercury semi square Uranus. Makes me”pop balloons”, by speaking truthfully and openly, right? I’m trying to pick my moments but usually I appear offensive, but I like getting to the bone of a matter.
    Then there’s Mercury semisextile Neptune. Sometimes, I cannot say what makes sense to others.
    These factors do NOT make me popular, but it’s another reason why I’m studying psychology, philosophy and religion.

  51. Im well liked but over the top sometimes. Im well liked except by certain people because Im so out there. You know, the kind that thinks if youre not serious (which I completely am Virgo Sun, Scorpio Venus, Saturn in 5th house) and miserable, youre a complete goofball because you remember how to have fun..
    But north node in Leo makes me fun, full of joy and very open hearted. I make people laugh all the time and love to do so. But Im very Mercurial.(Mercury in 1st) so I can switch up real quick if need be and be VEEERY serious… and quite fierce when the occasion requires it.
    I love to make people feel good about themselves. Encourage and empassion them. And to hug and encourage them when they hurt.and defend them when bullied. Ill stand up to whoever no matter how big.
    Sigh! Sometimes I wish I was more soft, quiet, demure…feminine. I admire other women who are like that.
    But born year of tiger with a Leo North Node, dont see that happening soon…do you? Lol!

  52. I have my asc moon and venus in SAg. I am not popular. The few friends I have had were popular. It must be all that 12th house scorpio.

  53. Mars and Venus conjoin at 4°Vir in 2019. Are their any politicians up for re-election this year, with natal Asc at 3°to 6°Vir, other than Justin Trudeau?

    • Came upon this thread while Googling a random aspect.
      Sun, Venus and Mars will all trine my natal Ascendent at 3,39 Virgo this August, bang around the new moon. I wonder what will happen. 🙂 My natal Venus (in Capricorn) is already trine my Ascendent. Should I look for any elections to stand in?

  54. I have mars and Venus on my ascendant … they both form conjunctions and I’ve always been popular even when I don’t want to be. I have Venus on the 12th house cusp so I like to be hidden somewhat… but I have a sun in the 1st house so I’m always seen regardless

  55. For someone so closed off, I appeared on tv four times now, which is hilarious given my scorp mc, saturn in 1st, eight planets bellow the horizon and many more. I wasn’t popular but a few people recognised me on the street as a kid. Also not popular in school but I got along nicely with a lot of my peers in hs and college, as opposed to middle school where everybody was so hostile. On the internet, with groups it feels like when I start to say something, make a thread, no one buts in, but when I leave that thread gets a lot of traction and attention. So I am not popular at all but my words are- without me needing to be there, if that makes sense. Also not sure what it’s my synastry with this site but I feel very self centered in here and just saying empty words lol. As opposed to different places where I actually had things to say, to inquire and create. If remembering correctly this site has aries rising, my mars in this site’s 1st house makes a lot of sense then. -.-

  56. I’ll have Mars conjunct Venus on my ascendant for my solar return next year. Does that mean I’ll be popular all year? 🙂

    • With mars you will probably feel very energetic *and more passionate, able to to do a lot of things and with venus you’ll be seen in a positive, sweet light and paying attention to your personal style for example. A venus mars conjunction on the rising sounds like it can be good for a romantic relationship, as the conjunction will be on the axis of asc/desc. Mars is a bit more feisty but an opposition (to the desc) is still attraction. Doesn’t sound bad at all. 🙂

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