Have you ever burned someone down – torched them – berated them – tortured them… you know the drill. And done this when they’d done virtually nothing to deserve it?
Tell the truth now. What got into you?
Also, how did you handle the aftermath?
How old were you?
Have you been able to gain some control?
What’s the astrology?
I have done this, but only to someone who richly deserved it.
This person had taken advantage of multiple people, lied, manipulated and spoiled lives for their own selfish ends, promising wonderful things which never materialized in order to exploit people. In truth I should have kicked them out of my life a LONG time before I did and so should the others who were affected.
The thing that I did (revealing a piece of information about them and providing evidence/proof of what they had done) killed multiple opportunities for this person, burned bridges for them and wrecked their public standing. I have not regretted it for a moment. Prior to my doing this thing the person still weighed on my mind frequently even though it had been years since I spoke to them.
Since doing it, I have barely thought of them.
Don’t fuck with Cancerians. It may take a while but we will end you.
Sorry if this is Off-Topic-ish, Elsa!
This was fine and interesting. Thank you!
You’re welcome Elsa – I’m so glad your back is better!
Sounds like someone I know and I did the same though not intentionally! I meant to just ease myself out of being involved emotionally-well amputate really, but it all turned out to do more so! Not only did they end up being “thrown under the bus”, they felt forced to amputate a close friend that had found out what they had done to me and maybe others. He told him to do the right thing, but he chose to get rid of that friend instead and keep on. Also their panic to get back their old flame, that they had gilted to “go out and play”- sort of backfired when after being played, I proceeded to tell them I would expose every nasty thing that they had said about them as they had a right to know! Well their “old flame” got that text two days before Valentine’s Day because she insisted on holding on to his phone, unknown by me, because she was jealous and wanted to keep him from texting or calling me I guess. He then text’d me back the next day, to inform me it was she who had replied (pissed off for sure!) as she had his phone! I told him he deserved it! I have let myself forgive him and myself just to move on…it’s been ages! I guess the astrology is Mars in Scorpio in the 12th-unconscious anger that comes out in mysterious ways. Or has mysterious effects. Also I can be unconscious of how mad I am and come across. I don’t like being angry. I repress it a lot. Fierce anger actually scares me!
I’ve done exactly the same as you. It’s fine by my moral compass. I’ve got moon in cancer and pluto conjunct Mars and Uranus in Virgo. Yep, in the end if you fuck with me (and especially if you make life miserable for others) I will end you. Ha ha ?
PS I can wait YEARS to do it – time doesn’t dilute me!
Good for you! Yep, I waited a long ass time to do this too and here’s the thing; people always say “Leave it to Karma!” But karma works through the actions of people. Who’s to say that your actions aren’t Karma doing its thing!
Thats some seriously bad karma on you – your post reminds me of a cancerian bitch i know with a hard pluto/mars square and moon in 12th. Her motivations are always rooted in extreme jealously and a toxic inferiority complex. You don’t elevate yourself by depressing others. Hope you feel great about yourself.
I wonder what this individual did to warrant such a malevolent act on your part that was so “deserving”. LIke I said – your karma. Good luck. It may take a while, but it will end you.
Que sera sera, Hekate. I don’t sent out to hurt people unless and until I feel they richly deserve it and I think my actions and the consequences (karmic or otherwise) through before I take them. In this case, I’m satisfied that what I did was deserved and warranted but if Karma disagrees, so be it.
But it sounds to me like you have a little projection goin’ on there and that you actually need that Cancerian bitch kicked out of YOUR life. I wish you success in being rid of them.
I don’t think your understanding of karma is complete at all. Sounds like BSK2 just revealed what this person was doing and did not betray her own integrity. I agree that it sounds like you are projecting.
If I go for the jugular it is usually deserved. I do regret though As a scorpio I will try to just disappear first. I avoid people who bring out the worst in me.
My sibling does it often to people around him including me. Mars too far away from Pluto, but he Pluto Conjunct rising, I just can’t do that to anyone. But he can . His 3rd house is intercepted and in Scorpio so ruled by Pluto. It’s horrible , but afterwards sibling reacts like nothing ever happend. He says the most hurtful things. People don’t like him and don’t want to be around him. Sad actually for him. But also for the persons who did get burned down.
I’ve gone PMS (Pluto Mars S**t) before and deserved or not it’s never pretty …
Over the last few years my sister has attacked people close to her verbally out of the blue. It occurs when she has been drinking wine and alone, and she is often alone. This is not a life long trait and I never took the time to see her Mars is at 20 degrees Cancer in her 12th house, so has been in a square with Pluto and Saturn, and more recently Jupiter. She and I spoke about it yesterday, as she had attacked our brother the week before and he had blocked her number for a few days. She told me she doesn’t have any recollection of these events occurring, so I’m assuming they are in a “blackout” phase. I know when I’m on the receiving in there is nothing I can do to help her or protect myself and I too have taken time outs from her. I hope the slow movement of these planets will free her of these painful demons.
I am normally on the receiving end of this – mind you one mans murder is anothers meat, in other words what one person sees as justifiable will vary from individual to individual.
Thank you fiasco. Its balancing to hear from both viewpoints.
Being hurt is never pleasant. But hurting others may feel good at the time but is usually something you look back on and wince at. Maybe not immediately, but eventually. Knowing this I try to make sure Im not just focused on hurting back more than expressing firm boundaries after the hurt is done to me. I suppose its the Scorpio side of me maturing.
I have had blind rages,plus,Mars Mercury in Aries , does give me an all out rage.
I did do that,and guilty as charged.
Not to hurt ,but out of sheer tiredness and exhaustion.
However I regretted it terribly.
I have never done it again,nor will ever do so again.whatever the provocation.
I control myself,leave the area,wash my face to cool down.
Awareness is crucial.
And anger is usually counter productive.
Having Taurus Sun, I give a very loooong rope ,and keep tolerating.
However if someone keeps pushing.
They will be decimated.
I have an Aries Moon and yes back in the day before menopause I was guilty of my hormones over ruling normal self control. I nuked a couple of people. Yes, I felt guilty after coming to my senses and had to make an apology. No I am not proud of it. I eventually learned to keep a low profile about 2 days a month when I knew I would be in a questionable frame of mind.
Yes, it took a while for me to realize that it was better for the world at large if I caged my inner beast during this time. With a Leo Sun and Aries Moon and unruly hormones it is not a good combination. I also found it less stressful for myself to keep a lower profile since I was so easily irritated during that time.
“I eventually learned to keep a low profile about 2 days a month when I knew I would be in a questionable frame of mind.” This, so much this! Moon in 1st house square mars. I don’t engage with people during first two days to spare them. Sometimes it’s not even possible to talk anyway because one is wriggling like a worm being poked with a stick. It’s not the first time I’m hearing martian moon or mars/moon and anger, hormones, period in the same sentence.
Yes, I hear you. Definitely not our imagination. Once I started my period, I felt immediate relief. I always thought, “Thank God I am not crazy; it’s just hormones”.
Aries sun Pisces moon here who bottles up carbonated emotions for awhile, then if a soda shaker I’m comfortable enough comes by and shakes me up(BF, or sometimes my dad) I will let loose and throw a thing or two, or throw an insult that can hurt them. Then I may stew in self hatred for the next couple of days!
My mars is in Aquarius – unpredictable bouts of rage, perhaps? Maybe that’s got something to do with it.
Not me, but someone did it to me, when Mars squared Pluto 2,5 years ago.
An HR manager berated me for the number of sick days, which was due to the fact I had fibrome and cysts in my uterus that made my periods very severe in regards to pain and bleeding. I didn’t know it at the time, but I my body suffered immensely, and naturally I had to call in sick some days every month, which had made her suspicious.
Shortly after that, I sent in my resignation. It was the last straw, that she had abused her power and misused personal information against me.
So yeah, this is one hell of a rage. I knew the aspect was active at the time, but was unprepared for which side the attack came from.
This June I had my Uterus removed with surgery, and afterwards my thoughts went to the day when she accused me of being falsely sick.
I thank myself that got out of that toxic work place!
Yes, I did after taking my father in law’s constant pushing me for years. One example that set my explosion into no going back: He told his son to go off another woman while I sat right there.
When the keg blew, I hurled every thing at him to cut him deeply. Later, my husband said that his dad was shocked and felt cut deeply. But my husband told me that he wished he could have witnessed it. I had taken years of crap from the Libra f-i-l and it felt great to point his selfish behavior out to him.
This happened in 2011,and I have no regrets.
He tried to get his son to screw his old girlfriend.
Oh jeez! My father tried to get me to marry my sister’s ex-husband!
Ugh. What is wrong with people?
I know my father in law had Mars in Capricorn opposite Uranus in Cancer, but he relished tormenting others and he admitted this to me and gloated.
One time, he wanted to make the neighbors dog eat tobasco sauce and I told him the dog wouldn’t eat it, and he called me a killjoy.
Some folks want to cause others pain and misery.
Once, but they deserved it. My university dean! 30 of us had shared a grueling, time-consuming accelerated two-semester honors course three years earlier.
We were informed by letter, two weeks before graduation, that we would not be allowed to graduate because some board deemed the course too difficult for average students to take (!!). So, they canceled our credits. Sorry! You can’t graduate, we are stripping six credits from each of you, feel free to enroll in summer school…
We all met at a bar to discuss some were sobbing as we had accepted jobs, etc., and now life was in limbo. We arranged a meeting with dean’s office, where a snotty uncaring rep informed us we were out of luck — unless we each wrote the university a check for $3000, then, they would “look past this” (as if we had done something wrong). Students were sobbing, three thousand was nearly a full semester’s fee back then. On top of what we had paid for that class originally.
As the smirking rep strode away, I decided this was unacceptable. I was shy by nature, but I turned and marched past four shocked secretaries through two big mahogany doors into the university president’s office. He was there and startled. I explained the situation. He curled his lip, smiled, and said “So? write the checks, none of you run this place” and turned back to his work.
That is when I decided for once in my life to unleash the furies. I pounded on his desk to make him look up, told him they had committed fraud by offering the course and taking our money three years earlier, and were now trying to blackmail us. I happened to know about the university business standing and funds and a sketchy bit of money hiding and an outstanding lawsuit from my boyfriend’s housemate, who was a finance major in first year law, who loved researching. I screamed what I knew, damning fact by damning fact, said I would call a friend’s father who was a city tv news anchorman, and would write my own story for the press, and spill the the story of (here I spat out the numbers) a university fat with cash that was not fulfilling scholarships as promised and was now blackmailing it’s own students for nearly $100,000. I said as enrollment was down, this probably wouldn’t help, especially coming from a top student.
I was literally huffing and puffing over his massive desk, torching him with all this unsavory secret information, and he was cringing in his big leather chair as secretaries jammed the doorway. I slammed my fist on the top on his desk again and said, “You have five minutes, or I go to the press with all of this and your face will be all over the news cycle by Sunday for your greed, this scam, and the way you treated me today — I am your employer as I paid you for four years.” He gawped and gulped and then capitulated. I stood there until he dictated a letter and gave me 30 signed copies. I was shaking by the time I left and felt I would faint but I didn’t — I delivered those letters. We all graduated. After four years of working my a** off (and working three jobs year after year to pay for it all, and help out my parents, and still getting top grades) no greedy university pencil neck was going to deny me, or any of my class friends. Especially not two weeks before graduation. Nope.
I have never regretted it that crazy outburst (and I never donated a dime to my university). Thirty young lives were on the line, so I found my inner panther. I think sometimes, that is the only way to handle a bully. (Sometimes I think maybe bullies thought up the whole karma thing in the first place!)
What a great story!
This is badass. My deepest applause.
PS…I am a Virgo with stellium in Virgo and a stellium in Sag.
Go girl – smacked ’em right where it was needed ♥️
Just bloody awesome!
Me, got that Mars tightly conjunct Pluto in Virgo conjunct MC in house 10 & Ascendant is Sagittarius 😄 can definitely understand that rage when pushed by the unjustness of a situation. Other problem I have had is that being a feminine sign, the act can be done to you if you do not pay attention.
I’ve had this done TO me, rather than me doing it to others. And it was over a very minor, resolvable and forgettable issue. It’s a long story, but skipping to the end, it forced me out of my job as THEY got away with it by playing the victim and everyone else sided with them. Including some of my own friends.
However the new job I got (from serendipity and damn good timing, just before the pandemic) out of this sorry mess was miles better! It was a blessing in disguise. Pluto made an opposition to my Mars at the time. I have since forgiven my friends too.