I wrote this for a client:
“…You have a deep fear that you suck. If you invest in that, you will wind up rejecting someone, as a preemptive strike. You feel you will be rejected so you beat them to it.
If you don’t control this tendency, you’re going to reject everyone in an attempt to not be vulnerable. This will lead you to be alone…which is exacerbate your feelings of being unlovable. It’s a vicious cycle and one of the things you will really have to work on, in order to be happy in a relationship.
Note this takes place entirely inside you, meaning whoever you partner with, this knee-jerk thing will surface…”
Who can relate? Where is your Venus?
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There is something wrong with me! How do you know there’s not?
(Venus in Virgo widely square Saturn in Cancer)
Yep, got this too.
I have saturn conj venus in my 11th house. i’ve been through the:i’m unlovable… yadda yadda. which leads to less love and less trust. lesson learned: growth, acceptance, and love growing.
thanks saturn conj. venus. 🙂
i’m wondering about a different take on this aspect: i’ve made my living by making beautiful things my whole life (or attempting to). I’m know learning to facilitate collaboration between different people to design new kinds of solutions. i can’t help but turn to my saturn conj. venus (esp bc its in the 11th) as a way to understand and further my abilities in this area.
Now I see it! I have cancer venus in the 10th natally so it’s always been there but today venus was opposing my saturn and I saw it clearly. I saw my insecurities reflected back at me, I saw myself rejecting everyone for the slightest reasons, and I felt very alone.
I also saw how cold I can be particularly in my rejection which comes out when I’m hurt. People hit nerves and I wanted badly to punch them. I’m not usually a hitter and I have a pretty high threshold for people saying ill-thought but generally well-meaning or harmless things. Over the past few days NOOOPE! I don’t want anyone around me cuz they will hurt me and when I try to explain why I’m hurt no one gets it so I feel more alone.
I tried hard to appreciate what I had but all I felt was the lack.
I’m a man. But I don’t think I will ever love any woman, ever.
I have Venus square Saturn, plus Neptune in Sagittarius in 7th house.
Which means, I rightfully reject love all of the time.
The only time I opened myself up to love, I got deceived in love by a woman who freeloaded of my money and cheated on me, left me when I was in dumps. And I always get deceived by women. Sorry to put that across, but this is the story of my life. Neptune in 7th house is the worst placement, I have always attracted deceptive partners. I don’t believe in women or love anymore.
So even if you have to ‘open-up’ as you say to love, because of Venus square Saturn, what you get is deception in love(Neptune in 7th house), so I figured out no love is the best thing. I’m in my 30’s. I don’t believe in women, and I don’t feel I will ever love a woman again.
Moon square Mars
Venus conjunct Moon
Moon conjunct Jupiter
Saturn square Neptune
Pluto trine ascendant
Mars trine ascendant
Pluto sextile Sun
Mars trine ascendant
Mars sextile Sun
Pluto square Moon
A lot of models have Venus/Saturn.
And a lot of women with this aspect try to find love through Plastic surgery. If Venus/Saturn is extreme and has some hard Jupiter aspects as well, these women can get quite addicted to self mutilation.
Yes, Saturn with Venus can, particularly when young, become fixated on achieving a high standard of beauty. I think Saturn may demand perfection and one tends to feel less than until they think they have achieved this, and of course that’s unattainable. Also Capricorn/Saturn with Venus is very aware of status/ power and society’s superficial obsession with beauty. Scientific research confirms beauty’s positive influence through the “what is beautiful is good “ stereotype and the “halo effect”. Saturn/Venus may recognise that this is stupid but their practicality conforms as they know they can’t change the world :). Humans are innately drawn to beauty from birth. Research confirms that babies will gravitate to the more symmetrical beautiful faces over less desirable ones.
I have venus in Capricorn inconjunct a 4th house Saturn. It was challenging when younger as in emotional defence I would hide my vulnerability with the opposite sex. Of course this was counter productive as one just thinks your cold and it blocks them from truly knowing you. Fortunately I learnt to reveal and got better with age ?.
I have Venus Saturn in Leo and my husband Venus Saturn in Gemini. It is rather odd but he describes me as a “cold fish.” He has been described by his most serious of colleagues as “uptight.” But with a retrograde Merc in the 12th for a chart ruler he is an introvert, whereas I am not.
We have never had an issue with rejecting or rejection…well we have been married for 18 years, except that he has complained that I constantly reject his advances. We also have Venus Saturn in our Davison which explains why we have gone the distance despite Pluto on Libra AC.
I know two Venus in Capricorns who married each other and divorced. They also had Aqua Suns, nodal connections…the short of it is that Venus in Capricorn May like inking paper but like everyone else, finds day-to-day commitment tedious. Or it isn’t until it is. He had two Saturn connections to her, but they were such that they were the same he had with his own planets (meaning it was a marital commitment framed around his personal commitments) while she only had her Saturn conjunct his Mars. Hot, not. Unless your idea is being permanently frustrated.
I don’t have Venus and Saturn in any aspect, but Venus is in Virgo and Saturn in Libra – my Sun ruler – and also Chiron is in my otherwise empty 5th house of Capricorn and makes only a square to my natal Libra Sun.
I can completely relate to this problem and this feeling of unworthiness manifests in all aspects of my life.
This is the wife. My secret weapon is I know how she ticks so I just don’t let her fears stop me from being affectionate. A person has to do what they know is right and not immediately expect some desired response. In time, maybe she’ll let her guard slip a little. Committed and patient.
How adorable is this? 🙂
Venus in Cap (actually a massive Cap stellium here). This should be mandatory life skills for partners of all Cappys. 🙂
I possess Capricorn Venus in 7th house. Sextile Saturn and Mars.
I’m conventional, old-fashioned, forthright about love. It better be worth my time before I give ANY sign of interest. Me no likes being hurt or vulnerable. As I have aged, I’ve become more vulnerable.
I have sabotaged relations when younger due to not wanting to be the person let go, but no more. It’s why I don’t get involved unless I’m certain there’s long-term potential.
I can relate. I have Venus conjunct Saturn – in Capricorn – in the 7th house! Fortunately, I’ve grown beyond the unlovable limitation. I also have Jupiterian aspects with knobs which have helped to forge a more positive, self-helpful outlook.
My progressed Venus will move to Capricorn in a few years. Will I feel more this way? Anyone have experience with their Venus moving into Capricorn?
Natally, I have Venus conjunct Pluto is Scorpio, with Saturn in Scorpio but not exactly conjunct the other two being 8-9 degrees away. I have some Saturn qualities in love I suppose with my Saturn being in the same sign.
Venus in Capricorn here. I can relate. The thing is, I don’t always know that it’s not good to think this way. It’s just normal. And since I can unconsciously expect to be rejected, I just push it out of the way that I don’t care. Get in my head….it’s a weird, gray, barren planet sometimes.
Yup! Me too Allie. “It’s just normal” for me too.
I have a 10H Saturn in Cap opposing a 4H Gemini Sun (inconjunct 6H Venus)but identify with that unloved feeling and accepting bad behavior from others to keep the relationship going. In the outer world I’m super confident, less in home situations, but at 60 I am much better at handling things in a pro-active, positive manner. You heal and grow when you identify your patterns.
My Venus has progressed into Capricorn. Natally, I have Venus Scorpio. Also, Venus progressed from fourth house of roots to fifth house of giving love, with an opposition to progressed north node. I’m in the spin cycle and repeat for a while yet. What I do like is Mars has also progressed into Cap and is exalted so I’m banking on that to override this gruesome influence.
Actually, I’m painting it worse than it is. Learning to really love myself has been arduous and I am making headway. This lesson is going to stick.
With Progressed planets your chart can take on the tone and colour of the signs it moves into, however this should be juxtaposed against Natal predispositions.
Both my children have Venus in Capricorn as chart rulers – well both parents have Venus Saturn in Natal as well as Davison – But even then there’s much variance between the two in terms of temperament, attitudes and the General way they carry themselves. They are two versions of somber if that makes sense.
I was with my ex 20 years, a Cap Sun, Mercury and Venus. Venus at 16° opposite Saturn Rx 16°. I loved him so much. I knew he had some issues with his mom who abandoned him but I didn’t know astrology until it was over. Pluto transiting through Capricorn was brutal and coincided with the birth of our kids. All those early wounds became projected onto me.