The 2020 Saturn Pluto Conjunction: Effect By House

transit watchSaturn will conjunct Pluto in Capricorn on January 12th, 2020. You may afraid of how this conjunction will affect you.  Matter of fact, you may be scared (Saturn) to death (Pluto). I can’t make this fluffy but I do hope what I write can help people control their fear at the very least.

If you’re heavily Scorpio, Capricorn or both, you’re in a better position to channel this powerful energy.  Even if it knocks your socks off, you’re likely to be the first to rise from the ashes. Here comes the plain-speak, I’m known for.

First, this conjunction is going to mark people. ALL people. Age is not a factor here.

A “mark” in my mind is an event that changes a person and therefore changes the rest of their life.   For example, you’re ten years old and your parents divorce.  Or maybe you’re forty years old and your spouse dies.  It could be job loss or serious illness.  When these happen, they mark you. They change you on every level.

“Marks” are not always negative. You may graduate college and because you did this, you’re marked in a way that pays over the course of a lifetime. You may marry or have your first child.  When that happens, who you were, is done.

These things are all sort of real but you can be marked in a way that’s less defined. For example, you may inadvertently find your calling.  Do you think I set out to be an astrologer? I did not!  Am I not marked?

dark figureWith that aside, let’s looks at the houses in your chart where the conjunction will take place.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 1st house:  This is the you take control of how you assert yourself in this world.  You’re going to be seen as a force to be reckoned with.  So how are you going to handle this?  Will you intimidate people? Repulse them? Maybe.  But you may also present as a solid source of support for others. The person people call when they’re running on empty.

You may be worried about your physical body and yes, this transit might take a toll on that front. But it also pressure you to go deeper and find resources you never knew you had.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 2nd house:  You can expect this conjunction to affect your money, your values, your self-esteem and/or your possessions. No, this does not mean you are going to go broke!  However, you may have to get by on less.

You may also choose to get by on less. For example you may feel burdened by your possessions and decide to pare down. The purge may be extreme.

Let’s say you’ve fluffed up your self-esteem by surrounding yourself with nice things.  If your self-esteem improves, you’ll no longer have a hole to fill with “stuff”.

In whatever case, think in terms of consolidating your losses, if this is what happens. Get real about money and power and how these things work in your life. Your stubbornness may be something to behold!

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 3rd house: You’ll learn about the power of words when this pair planets meet in your 3rd house.  For Godsakes, don’t gossip, because Saturn and Capricorn are all about consequences. If you cause a problem for others (especially 3rd house-ruled neighbors or siblings), you’re likely to have that karma ball come around, hard.

You may also find yourself at a loss for words. Communication may be blocked or just hard to manage. You’ll also be held accountable for what you say.

It’s a situation where a person mutes themselves because the burden of speaking is so daunting.  Say less. Mean more!

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 4th house:  This is a rough one.  If you have a strong family or emotional foundation, you’ll be glad of it, at this time. Unfortunately, many people lack these things. They will feel this void, deeply at this time.

On the upside, the pain will force them to dig deep. Here again, a person has resources beyond they’re conscious awareness… and pain to excavate as well.

If you know anyone who will be dealing with this conjunction in their 4th, try to offer support if possible.  This is a knot in your stomach times one-thousand.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 5th house: Well, ha ha!  This makes me think of an accidental pregnancy. You meant to have sex for recreation (5th), and instead you got sex for procreation (Pluto) and real life consequences – you’re a parent (Saturn)!

The 5th house rules creativity. If you ask me, making a baby is the ultimate creative act!

In short, “fun sex” has a deeper meaning. If your kids are already born, you’l probably take your “parenting” job to a deeper level (and a higher standard).

People may withhold sex under this influence, especially Scorpio which is known for this.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 6th house: You may be afraid about your health, but unless you’re very elderly, it would not be the first thing to come to mind.  This powerful, earthy conjunction would pressure you to rearrange your daily routine and your diet. You’ll want to gain control of any bad habits that drain you. I’m talking about food, smoking, drinking, porn, crack… you get the idea.

Another killer is WORRY.  If you tend to worry and fret, now is the time to get on top that. Become empowered by taking control and limiting the stress in you life.  Work smart. Simplify!

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 7th house: You may be afraid you will lose your partner… or never have a partner to begin with.  While these things can happen, you’re more likely to become more deeply committed to a partner.

This doesn’t mean, necessarily, that you’re going to meet your “soulmate” when these planets meet in your 7th house.  You may very well find yourself completely bereft on the love front, but not without a purpose.

There are many people who simply don’t value others until and unless, they are brought to their knees.  So it’s when this happens, the healing begins.

You may also find yourself bearing a burden for your partner, or you may be the burden they have to bear. However, this plays, you can expect to be deeply humbled, and to have something come from it, that is real.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 8th house:  Well, jeez. If you’re one of those people who think you’re magical with no pathology attached, you’re in trouble here.  It used to be trendy for people to state in the personal ads… “no baggage”. Yeah, right.

During this transit, you’re likely to be acutely aware of what’s wrong with you, psychologically speaking. You’ll also be tasked with taking responsibility for it but hey! That’s a lot better than forcing others to carry your bags.

It’s also better than being rejected for the baggage that surrounds you, so just just be glad when it gets real and you have the chance to really get yourself together.

Um… you may also be dealing with death. Death of parents, inheritance or lack of inheritance as well.  Pay down your debt.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 9th house: This transit it liable to transform your beliefs.  Hard to say how this might manifest, but it might be a result of the death of your inflation.

For example, you may believe you are the center of the world. It’s a transit like this that will show you the real scale of things. The real truth. The real power.

Frivolous beliefs will be flushed to be replaced with beliefs that are deeply rooted and real.  All in all, this is one of the easier places for this beast to land.  Be grateful!

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 10th house:  If I could choose a house where I would like this conjunction to land, this would be it.  You’re on top. You’re visible,

Now hopefully you did not lie, cheat or steal to get there because if you did, you’re liable to take a tumble and yes… it’s a long way down.

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 11th house:  You may lack friends at this time or more likely, be reduced to just one or two who really matter. You may lose a friend during this transit. I hope not, because if it happens, it will be terribly painful.

Take care not to betray your friends. Be sure to support those who support you.

This is a transit may deliver a “friend-for-life.  But you’ve got to be one to have one. Exchange of energy, okay?

Saturn and Pluto conjunct in the 12th house: This is the quintessential “dark night of the soul”. Your suffering is hidden but endlessly and enormously important, beyond your wildest dreams.

You can’t escape it. Merge.

There you go!  That’s it, I’m done! Now may we all get through this together!

Where will the Saturn Pluto conjunction land in your chart? What’s happening?

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The 2020 Saturn Pluto Conjunction: Effect By House — 130 Comments

  1. I’ll have that in my 3rd house. I do journal writing to manage my thoughts and emotions when they become too strong. I wonder if that would help channel that massive energy. I also feel it’s already happening as I’ve lost friends due to gossip and drama and poor communication issues.

    I still miss the friend I recently lost because of my bad communication issues. Karma bit me in the ass when he blocked me on Facebook and now I can’t make amends for my actions and behaviors that contributed to it on my end. Maybe I should just keep my mouth shut from now on.

  2. This will fall in my 7th house, and my husband’s 10th house, trine my Taurus sun. He’s got Saturn-Pluto baked in – conjunct in his 7th house natally. We’ve been talking about wanting to start a business together, but we have decided on exactly what that would be. January would actually be a great time for us to hunker down and work on it!

    • This Conjunction will occur in my 1st house. I can see some signs of it happening…I still need more clarity to get a fuller picture

  3. 12th house cusp here and it seems like it’s going to be a very long night. No way round it but through it and I’ve prepared by reading your blogs and the Saturn in 12th workshop. Got Saturn in Pisces natally and T Neptune right on it now so I’m merging. Thanks Elsa.

  4. Fourth house here… ulp.

    The conjunction will sextile my n Ceres-Neptune in Scorpio (and Pisces Dsc), square n Saturn Rx in Aries, trine n Jup-Pluto-Asc in Virgo, quincunx n Gemini MC. (All of those natal placements are at 21-25 degrees.)

    Pluto and Saturn have been in my 4th for some time, but I have no idea what to expect with this event. (And isn’t transiting Uranus going direct like the day before the S-P conjunction is exact?)

    But it sounds grim.

  5. 9th house here for me, thanks for this Elsa, so powerful. I’ve just looked at my inner circle; son, husband, & youngest brother all 12th house.

  6. Thank you Elsa, so much, for writing this. It will take place in my house 4. Cancer is on the cusp of house 11, and there are Moon, Jupiter and Uranus. Square Venus and Neptune in Libra in house 2.

    In the evening I can sit outside quietly (it is summer in The Netherlands!) and that is what I need because I feal a threat. I have been feeling this for a while and it getting worse as time goes on.

    Nature, the garden has always help me to calm down : – ). That is a gift.

    • also 4th house. Live in a violent country so have not lived without feeling a threat or 1000+ knots. My question is – what is the effect of this conjunction on the 4th house? Loss of home and family? Other? What else besides 1000 knots…..

  7. 12th house meetings here.
    I have this conjunction natally though, in the 8th house of Libra.
    Talk about relationships and taking responsibility. The carry the bags-comment really is something, because my parents dumped their craziness on me so I had to carry theirs as well as my own. Hard to take responsibility for that when you’re young in relationships, especially with Chiron being linked to so many personal planets in my chart as well.

    Thanks for the heads up here, Elsa, describing the energies in the 8th. They can be hard to handle from time to time.
    With a quincunx to Chiron in the 3rd, I usually have bad breakups, due to things someone says. Either me or them.

    Last time they were close, in January 2019, my life was marked by my mother washing her hands off me and my previous BF dumping me on a text message. I was thrown off course, but I got up and found a new love, which had been there the whole time.
    We are now a close-knit couple, but I am very glad that this conjunction happens with a sextile to my Sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction. The 12th house losses will probably be for the best then, changing me in a supportive way (hopefully.)

    • Oh my, I have just discovered that besides the Cap planets’ sextile to my sun/Venus/Jupiter conjunction, the transitting NN is close to my natal one, Jupiter is conjunct my Mars parked just outside the 12th house – and transit Mars is conjunct Uranus in the 10th house.

      Expect the unexpected.

      If things go down in flames… Those flames will be giga.
      If things decide to go well in some other areas – it will be huge as well.

      It’s like my horoscope recieving a giant stream of megawatt with its own natal energy.

    • Don’t mean to alarm you but with Saturn and Pluto transiting your 12th, you will be in for some MAJOR spring cleaning. And I mean Major, in case the bold font didn’t catch your attention.

      Elsa has a thread on TR Saturn conjunct AC and on it many responded with stories of what happened when it went through their 12th. I know of one: he found out his wife was cheating, he got divorced, his brother got cancer…and to look at him is to know that TR Saturn and TR Pluto might not kill (that’s them being merciful!) but they can sure make you age overnight!

      What you can do is get your house in order. Do the right things so that TR Saturn does its work, it will be positive.

      I have Chiron in DC and I’ve become immune to it to a certain extent, except for when I have troubles then in true Chironic fashion, where I can heal others, I’m left with this unhealing wound. The thing about Chiron is that’s a place of great sensitivity and all you can really do is make sure no one touches it.

  8. I’m a virgo sun & moon with taurus ascendant and I’ve read I’ll be in good shape next year (earth trines, baby!). This conjunction will land in my 10th house. I’m currently interviewing for jobs after being laid off in July, one of those being outside of my home country. I’m hoping this is all good!

  9. This conjunction will happen in my 12th house. I feel like I’ve been having a dark night for the soul for several years already. So I’m not sure how much darker it will get.

    Can 12th house transits indicate death?

  10. Well, regardless of my Scorpio and Capricorn stelliums, I still feel a bit anxious.

    Taking 15 college credits, preceptor, getting a teaching certificate. Taking GREs next year. Have my son starting school, court stuff too. Oh, and money is always never enough.

    I’m looking forward to my changes, 6th house and 7th too. I know it’s overdue and have been anticipating certain changes.

    • That would be the most delightful manifestation of this energy for me, except it won’t be accidental in our case. I have 5 planets and Vertex in Capricorn. I am fortified enough to bring up a child.

  11. I’m scared to even speak this out loud, but here I go anyway…..this conjunction is my first saturn return (23 degrees) May the universe have mercy on me.

  12. Elsa, I’m curious, my partner’s AC is at 24degrees Capricorn. Being so close to Ac, Does that mean conjunction will affect both 12th and 1st house?

      • Iam not “together”. I have Pluto and Saturn in the 12th and I am more alone then ever. My problems, feelings, thoughts, are not “shareable”.Too hard, unrecognisable, unsolvable. I have to go this alone. Before, during and probably even afterward, nobody will understand or even get close to this darkness, mainpulation and temptation I am going through. Temptation out of lack. Lack of love, friends, self love and money. All, my life until now, seems to be lost and useless, although I am a good person and helped a lot of people. There is no one to help me now.

            • Like you, Brex, I have Rx Saturn and Rx Pluto in my Cap 12H. It’s been tough wrestling with my private inner demons in these recent years. Most times I feel like an outsider with my nose pressed on the window wanting to get in. What’s extra frustrating is that I don’t know what “it” is. I do feel good and useful when I help others in any capacity.

              • Brex and Jayne,
                Feeling your pain.
                I’ve registered for the forum waiting to hear back to post chart.
                I have Taurus at the bottom of my chart. 5 in 3rd house and 6 in 4th house. It’s my understanding from reading monthly horoscopes on the web Uranus left Capricorn 4th house in March 2019 and moved to 5th?
                Looks like this is not the case. Does this mean I have Uranus in my 4th house for another 7 years?
                Also have Mars square Uranus in fixed signs Ouch

              • Hi Jayne, thank you, yes it is the fight with inner demons, good expression! What do you mean with “it”, the thing you want? I still feel good helping people, but am realizing more and more I could use the energy for myself, too and it is so much harder to ‘help myself’, for others I know exactly what to do, but to myself I am one big mist! Also I miss real good friends. Since Pluto is in Cap, they are almost all gone. Some I miss, but for most of them it is probably for the better (for me, having had unequal relationships all my life), this is hopefully the emptiness before the big happy new beginning. But it is such a hard, long, stretched goodbye! A 12 inch blues song…

  13. It will be big only if it conjunct an angle or aspects your planets. It also depends on life-phases. Eg. Both of my children received direct hits (0 orb) to their chart ruler during July but my teenager feels it on a much more profound level than my 5 y.o. does. Short of parents (knock on wood) dying, everything else is a temporary adjustment for the children.

    Ps This coming from someone who had TR Pluto conjunct IC ruler AND square Moon in 10th as an 8 year old. Sure, those were transformative times, to put it mildly, but I’m now a 41 y.o. and in the scheme of things, I didn’t do too badly.

  14. May be all get through this together… well said.
    As we did with the grand square. With Uranus square Pluto. So I was thinking of the difference, not just of energies involved but also strength of the effects.
    Is this comparable Elsa?

    • I saw that square as a crack in a foundation. Unpredictable! This is more like a permanent mark. That’s how I view it… how it feels to me. It’s like it’s non-negotiable.

  15. I’m one of those with the 4th house conjunction. I am not afraid: I have a strong family base and my sense of self is safer than it’s ever been. It might be the trine to my mars/asc in Virgo talking, but bring it on!

    I am perhaps more worried about the people with the same conjunction natally, in Libra, born in the early 80’s. Someone close to me has Saturn conjunct Pluto at 27-29 degrees Libra, and they’ll be affected by this right? What can one expect for them?

    • People with that conjunction who are partnered will probably re-up. Cement it. Those who are not might feel a real lack.

      This us generally speaking.

      • Elsa, how do you think this might affect a 5y.o. whose chart ruler is 27CAP stationary Venus actually, and like many of his generation have Saturn and Pluto in mutual reception EXCEPT Pluto is smack-bang on his IC?

  16. I read somewhere that after the conjunction happens, we may well look back and divide our lives into “before 2020” and “after 2020”.

    • I sure hope so. As a species we need to save ourselves from climate inaction; the signs are all there but the consequences seems million miles away.

      Saturn Pluto have been going through my 3rd, so excuse the somber tone. In that time, I have started and stopped writing a blog about migrant culture, relatives have died or people related to my relatives (like partners) have died, I have undertaken a contract for massive Reno on my house, fallen out with my entire extended family (I woke up and decided to just cut them all loose rather than endure on-going wrangling and insults)…the conjunction will quincunx Venus, ruler of 7th and 12th and Saturn, ruler of 3rd and 4th. Yeah, I have my suspicions on what this could mean.

      What do you think? Care to hazard a guess?

  17. I have it in my 4th house, but I have no planets in any cardinal signs. Not to say it’s won’t affect me.

    I’ve been looking at my home as the entire 🌍 earth. I am starting to get worried about all the changes lately (climate change, the Amazon, etc.), so I’ve been thinking of my putting my Virgo-ness to work and cleaning my “house”.

  18. In my 4th house, close to my Mars 19 cap. Worse, my mother’s moon is 19 Cap and the conjunction is in her 12th house. She has multiple health issues but has been remarkably resilient but the past year has been tough with some deterioration. Seriously anxious. Knot in the stomach has been present for the past couple of months

      • Death and rebirth and/or karmic endings with regards to things ruled by the Moon plus the house rule by the Moon. Look to aspects to the Moon and if you’re up to it, throw in progressed planets.

  19. I dont have planets in the 7th. However, Capricorn is on the 7th cusp, at 8°38′. My 2019-2020, Solar Return, Saturn and Pluto will be in Capricorn in the 7th, and opposition 1st house Mars, Mercury and North Node in Cancer. I have been feeling the effects of it for quite some time, which feels like a pressure cooker. My mother is very ill at this time, plus dealing with undependable siblings, insurance, doctors, property, money, etc. So it has been quite challenging. I’m also dealing with health issues. I’m tired of being the dependable ONE!

  20. Please if anyone can offer some hope. Since 2008 my life has taken a turn for the worst. I have lost everything and it seems to be only getting worse. I came across your blogs and have come to realize I was born with a terrible birth chart. My Sun, Rising, Venus, Saturn are all in Capricorn. Moon Saturn. 8th house Pluto and 12 house Saturn. I was born in SLC, Utah at 7:41 am on January 5, 1959. Thank you

    • Hello Sarah, I am in the same place. Sun, Merc, Venus in Cap, mostly in the 12th. Since Pluro is in Cap, the magic in my hard but interesting life, has gone. It is only hard now. I guess we have to waot until Pluto and Saturn left the building, say 2022. Until then we will habe to survive. No more, no less.Just try to habe some easy moments and look at everything from above. Downstairs is only chaos and hate.

      • Sorry for the bad spelling, I commented from my phone 😉 I have not looked at your birth chart yet, am interested so I will look at the forum like Elsa recommended. Maybe I can find some relief there too. It is not hopeless, just hard gor a longer time, or harder, than we expected.

  21. In my 10th. I want to retire from my field. If I found a few hours somewhere that I liked I would consider continuing on, but not where I’m at. My mother had a saying “Enough is enough and too much is too much.” That about sums it up. Eclipses in Dec/Jan are very active in my chart, too.

  22. Brex I will get it posted this weekend. I made some typos myself–as I have Scorpio moon (along with some other typos).
    I hope that you will be able to provide me with the reality of my birth chart as it has been a tough go my entire life (the little I know has given me the strength to carry on). But so intense with Pluto, Uranus in my house of home (hit by tornado in 2017 along with other) and Saturn–this being my second Saturn Return. Also in setting phase of Sade Sati which I know nothing about–just that all combined one loss after another.
    Brex I’m grateful that you have reached out to me.
    Thank you, Sarah

  23. I expect my parents will die, that is very predictable, and my country, the UK, will drop through a trap door. Hey ho.

    I will get on with it. What else can you do?

    • That has been prepared for a long time through Brexit and ‘they’ want to ensure the worst posible outcome for the UK cos they know when a country goes into chaos/starvation most times they end up going to war. Shiva/👹$ATUrn worshippers. UK is Capricorn, 👹$ATUrn ruled. US is its child 🦀Cancer.

      • ‘They’ are Shiva/👹$ATUrn worshippers, ‘they’ not the decent people of the UK.

        And they have experimented with Cyprus, if you have more than 50k on a bank account get it out and buy 💰Gold☀️ coins, they are portable.

  24. 9th house for me. I am indeed grateful! And grateful that you posted this. I can definitely feel the processes you’ve described, already happening to an extent.

  25. Well, I got a 4 Star stellium in Scorpio nataly including the Moon, which is now, and will be, Progressing in Scorpio plus I got Prog. Venus and Prog. Mars, which are respectively my Natal and Prog. Ascendant rulers, in Capricorn, thus conjoining the 2020 Cap Stellium including that Pluto-Capricorn conjunction, happening in my 4th house.

    I’m so grateful for this post, Elsa, it really nails it: Mother, Family, House.

    What I know of Saturn and Capricorn is that, like a tsunami, they raze everything that is not, well, tsunami-proof.

    And neither of these 4H matters are rock solid for me at this juncture!

    Thank you so much for the heads-up!

  26. Would anyone be so kind as to help me find out where this will fall in my chart? I apologize for my ignorance, and would really be so grateful!

  27. I have been caring for my ex-husband who has been battling liver and bile duct cancer since February 2018. In late June 2019, he developed hepatic encephalopathy, which is essentially a quick-developing form of dementia, and a sign that his liver has gone into failure. My gut has said for a long time that we may be nearing the end during 2020 and since the Saturn/Pluto conjunction falls in my fourth house, I’m bracing myself for that to be part of the timing. Thanks for sharing your updates, Elsa. They really help me navigate this a lot.

  28. With saturn and pluto transiting in my 7th for some reason the thought of being murdered by a person I’m dating comes to mind. Those two planets are killer, and in the 7th house it’s a clear indication of the classic scenario of a lover murdering their partner. I’m single, but I wonder if other Cancer rising people will kill or be killed by their partners. It’s morbid to talk about, but that is literally how it could play out. Domestic violence, sexual assault and murder.

    • I’m Gemini w/a Cancer rising, and Scorpio Moon. Solar Return, Saturn Pluto conjunction is happening in my 7th house, and opposition 1st house Mars, Mercury, and North Node in Cancer. Although, I don’t have a partner, it’s still, Self vs Others. Im tired!😩

    • oh wow, yes. cancer rising here also. I am married and not dating but lately thinking about the dating websites and how I would never do that as I know I would attract crazies and be murdered.

  29. I believe I’m experiencing a good beginning of this energy. My husband has this in 2nd and I in 12th but 9 degrees from Asc.

    So he had to sort tons of stuff when we sold our house (moved out Sept 23) and there are undercurrents on my end and I stepped on a nail my first day at the house and I have problems with my feet…..

    I liked the part about being “marked”. I plan to write more, do astrology more and live my life for the enjoyment of it. I’m done with some parts of my life that don’t work well for me. I need to do what I enjoy or I will never do it! I feel this marking by a move to Louisiana on a bayou.

    Probably have a good bit of time (until January?) to finish clearing out storage units recently acquired. Selling excess unneeded stuff. Etc. Hoping for the best but preparing for whatever.

    I truly love your essays and emails. Your insight is amazing and spot on.

  30. The Saturn/Pluto conjunction will land smack on top of my MC (22°48′ Cap) I have had a terrible past 2 years concerning job/career. I know other transits and personal chart aspects also play a big part but, I am begging for mercy at this point. I can’t take any more upheaval!

    • If you worked hard to transform under these transits, you will reap the rewards. Granted they are brutal transits, but as my friend says, “They are doors to new pastures.”

    • One day at a time and you will get past this.

      Saturn can be the limit so maybe there will be a slowing and a limit to the upheaval. One can always hope. I have Pluto square my Midheaven Natally. I have had a large multitude of jobs due to upheavals over the years. Sometimes I have to try to find enjoyment in today or I lose focus.

  31. This is very interesting. It will land on my 10th house of Capricorn. Great news right? NO! It will also square my natal Pluto and natal Saturn on my 7th house (yes they are closely conjunct) and oppose my moon on my 4th house of Cancer. What does that mean?!? 🙁

  32. Hmm, what do you think if your fourth house is intercepted? Or do you only use the whole house system. This conjunction occurs in my fourth but the only major connections are opposite my mars at 23 degrees Cancer in the 10th and square my retrograde Mercury at 20 degrees Libra in the first. I’ve been going through a huge amount of upheaval the last three years. Left my husband for someone else and moved to another country to be with that person. It’s hard to imagine my foundation being more shaken. However, my partner and I have been working really hard to establish two properties that I bought as sources of income. And I will be back in my home country for this transit. Thanks for this info. In a way I feel I’ve been working on everything that this points to on a personal level, especially my fear of loss.

    • Wow talk about literally expressing the stars – cos the 4th is the house of the house(s) => real estate. Establishing foundations, raising a solid structure that can withstand shocks/tsunamis. Going back home. Consolidating family.

      Where’s your natal Saturn? It’s important for it rules Capricorn and it probably rules over your 4th House

      • Hi Miguel! Thanks for the response, my Saturn is in Aquarius in the fifth trining my sun at 5 degrees Libra conjunct Moon at 12 degrees both in the 1st. I’m almost wondering if it will break up my resistance to creating. I’ve been involved with so many of the arts and have given them up out of fear. Writing, painting, acting etc.

        • Liz,
          I happened to read this comment first thing this morning. My mind is just waking up!

          The fear you mentioned I also know and understand. I want to tell you something positive and I truly hope this Capricorn bundle of energy will do the trick of breaking up the fear.

          I have battled fear (Capricorn Asc) and indecision (Libra Moon, Mars, and Neptune) most of my 60 some years.
          I know my artistic drives are real, and I have managed to stick with them sporadically, never letting them go completely when fear wants to push it away, but it has always been a challenge and a battle for me.

          Recently I pushed myself into a spot that is forcing me to unwind the things that have bound me since childhood.

          I can feel this coming and I stand with you hoping.

    • Hi, sorry, what about Mars in Cancer? We’re dangerous fellows, why? 🙂 I’m asking cause I also just saw this Saturn-Pluto conjunction will be directly opposite my Mars in Cancer!! What does that mean!?

        • Well I know I’m not, but I’d love to know what he means. And more than that, I’d love some advice!! I got it in the 7th house, relationships!! 😭😭

          • Theodora, talking about Mars, not the person, Mars in Cancer can be very self-detrimental, Mars is intensity and burning 🔥Fire🔥 and Cancer is 🌊Water💦 that cancels out the 🔥Fire🔥 not allowing it to extrovert and let out, keeping the 🔥Fire🔥 in is definitely dangerous. In actuality, Mars in Capricorn, the opposite sign, is said to be exalted, best sign for Mars (so they say but for me the jury is still out 🤔) so in 🦀Cancer Mars is especially unwell, that’s called Fall.

            It is important to study Mars – here’s a good page for that https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/exaltation-detriment-fall-mars/ – as he’s the great activator of processes, usually the kickstarter of things – aaaand he’s going to travel through Capricorn, where he’s exalted, for a huge 2 months, again kickstarting stuff, on, of all times, Mars ruled Aries sign of Spring. So the Sun going through Aries will then send the energy straight to Mars who’s busy in Capricorn conjoining Pluto and Saturn AND all things magnifier Jupiter!

            We will have then to be even more focused on constructive uplifting work, avoiding especially the 8 o’clock daily soap opera that’s especially 🤮, being protective of oneself from external negative contamination cos hatred and general negativity may abound.

            As we know of these things beforehand, we won’t be lost like many, we may use the energies to the betterment of ourselves and the world.

      • Talking about Mars, not the person, Mars in Cancer can be very self-detrimental, Mars is intensity and burning 🔥Fire🔥 and Cancer is 🌊Water💦 that cancels out the 🔥Fire🔥 not allowing it to extrovert and let out, keeping the 🔥Fire🔥 in is definitely dangerous

    • My mother had Mars in Cancer. Whenever we would visit, she could talk for hours about where we could go out to eat! She had nearly all water planets, most in Cancer.

      My Mars in Libra in 8th- handled other people’s money in auction business. Was honest and caring. Always a good thing one can do with energy!

  33. What about all the Capricorn stellium people born 1989-90? Is there any specific advice for them, or should they also look at house placement?
    I’m Pisces born 1978 with Capricorn in house 1, but I have many people around me from this particular group. Thank you!

  34. Dear Elsa,

    Does the fact that Sun and Ceres will also be involved in the Saturn/Pluto conjunction matter in any way? If so, how?

    Thanks,
    m.

  35. thank you for your work elsa and great to read all the comments. i will be having my second saturn return when saturn and pluto are conjunct. nice to have pluto there as mr. why dont i just make things a bit more intense. thanks dude. it also involves a conjunction to my m/c. but wait thats not all! at the same time it sextiles my sun, scorp and moon, pisces, and inconjuncts my north node, leo. my goal is to be the lump of coal that gets crushed into a diamond, my fear is that i will just be crushed…..

    • Sounds like a dynamite Saturn return-and I mean that in a GOOD way.

      You could be very lucky in this……but sometimes luck doesn’t show itself clearly at first (in my experience)

      Hoping for the diamond(s) for you.
      Not literally diamonds but clear, beautiful, valuable results.

      • thank you paula, that is a inspiring vision: clear, beautiful, valuable results. i would wish that for everyone! although…..a girls best friend would not be rejected. 🙂

  36. My ascendant is in Capricorn, 22 degrees. The conjunction Saturn+Pluto may happen exactly over my ascendant. I am afraid. No idea what is waiting for me there, but I will share some notes. My natal Pluto is in Libra, 23 degrees (MC in Libra on the 16th degree). I ended an study cycle in late 2018. January and February I was looking for a job, with no idea about what would be happening to me. I had no money at all. I went to a 10 days Vipassana retreat and I spend lots of time there suffering in silence, trying to realize everything passes, everything will change. At that time, I was in love with a guy I am not being able to be with, but not being able to broke with neither. Yeap, one year of this complicated “relationship” coming soon and tones of resistance and learning related to that (I do acknowledge my descendant in 22 degrees of cancer sign, and eclipses are coming on my way). In February I got a job in a different town and BOOM! I honored my natal sun, mars and Venus conjunction in Aries, leaving everything (once again) behind to re-begin my life again in another environment. New city, new job, new challenges, no friends, no family (as I immigrate to another country, leaving all my belongings, family and everything behind in 2015), just me and my courage to look forward. But I do confess I am not feeling connected. I have being trying hard do let it flow, no resistance, no attachment. I feel tired of fighting. I feel sensitive. I feel lonely as hell and a bit hopeless. This Pluto and Saturn on my 12th house may probably being responsible to put my anxiety in a level never before experienced. Worst then a Saturn return. It is like if Saturn asks me what I have being doing with my life all of this time and Pluto just explodes de sense, hitting my legs and putting myself on my knees in face of myself and everything I’ve being fighting for. I surrender without having an idea of what’s to come. But I do have the impression that if it is like if I fought and I did all in vain, cause as a matter of fact I am 38 in a place I do not feel home, with no partner, no kids, no family, no friends… But I have a job, I am in good health, I am being resilient and trying to keep on with my hope. Hope and cope! Elsa, I was reading your post and in my case I have being gaining weight (10 kilos since last year). Oh, I noticed some changes in my self-stem too. It’s being more difficult to love myself and be proud of my realizations. Hope theses sharing will help other ascendants in Capricorn to track this transit effects too. Thank you very much for this amazing forum !

    • i feel where you are coming from. Asc 29 Cap with Uranus 22 cancer. All my life stress and being prone to nerve issues have been my battle.

      Our move to being by a bayou has been soothing.

      I just ordered Bergamot essential oil. I bought a book on essential oils before we moved and it mentions putting Bergamot Oil on a tissue and inhaling it (a few drops) can help with anxiety and stress. I’m trying to alleviate this myself through other methods but was surprised to read about Bergamot. I think I will try it.

      What I bought is a beginners guide and I have enjoyed learning more about it.

      Fingers crossed our Capricorn rising helps us endure and climb our personal mountains.

      • Hi Paula
        Stress can come from many directions but I wanted to share with you that I’ve reduced my stress levels significantly by changing the way I eat slightly.

        I do intermittent fasting (eating from noon to 8pm and not eating anything from 8pm to noon the next day). It lowers insulin which is linked to cortisol and stress hormones (insulin seems to be linked to most hormones and the adrenals one way or another).

        I started intermittent fasting (IF) to lose weight but the stress reduction is very noticeable.

        You can search re are loads of websites. If you have a health condition check if you can fast before going ahead.

  37. Well,my Saturn is in Cap. At 0 degrees 30’ in the 6th house
    My Pluto, whose retrograde in Virgo
    At 3 degrees 55’ is in the third house
    My Capricorn in the 7th house at 15 degrees 48’,and my Virgo in the 4th house. At 25degrees .01’
    Any takers?
    I will be in a class 1/11 ,and 1/13
    Starting my last piece to finish as
    An appraiser, before State exam
    But good news for me, I believe I
    Am just in receipt of last course passing which gives this near 61 year old to finish her college degree qualifying me to take State exam
    Yay! Hoping to have sane home
    Life and work but seems when
    Things going good someone drops a house on me, perhaps snowstorm
    Will hit?tis the season

  38. Would you say that people should have an idea what is coming just by looking at 2018-2019? Pluto is a slow moving planet and Saturn is a planner unlike Uranus that surprises us. So, I wonder if a lot of us have some ambiguity in our life that will propel us in a direction for this “next chapter” in life, and this Saturn in Pluto conjunct will bring us to reality about which way things will be going forward. But, the only reason their has been ambiguity up until now is fear, and we I’ll have run out of time to fear. It’s just right in our face.

    I’ve had a very stable life the last 12 years, and I’ve seen my life turn way upside down like I’m being thrown on a different path. I’m making choices where I have the ability to, but the big choices are being made for my as huge losses I never saw coming. I think Pluto/Saturn will cement these changes so I won’t waste energy hoping for a different outcome. I’ve got all this going on in my 11th house. It doesn’t aspect any of my planets, but I do have Pluto/Venus/Saturn conjunct in my 8th. Uranus has been opposing it. I feel like this is the big moment in my life where I will be experiencing what my Scorpio stellium is all about.

  39. Hi Elsa
    Are there any upsides to having the conjunction in the 4th house, like some of the other houses have? Is it really all doom and gloom in the forth – and would you be able to explain why the conjunction in the 4th is so bad compared to the other signs?
    Thanks

      • Thanks Elsa
        I don’t have any family except a husband.
        They’re all dead or estranged – since my childhood. The conjunction is in my 4th as you may have guessed! The two planets have been on my IC for years – opposite my moon in cancer.

        I guess it’s going to be more of the same; mum died, husband had a stroke (he’s back to normal though) and gradually all my friends have faded away.

        So, I’ll have no support at all☹️

  40. I got stellium with saturn pluto conjunction in the 10th house with my natal mercury conjunct my natal sun of ♒ and Jupiter and venus and the saturn pluto conjunction also ends on my birthday 1/31/21!!

  41. 10th House, this transit also lands on my natal Uranus/Neptune conjunction.
    Didn’t lie, didn’t cheat. I’m simple inept, yet somehow people always mistake me for something else (Neptune being conjunct with my MC).
    This will shatter the existing illusion for me I guess? The transit is already happening for me. I have just been in a breakup, and just a couple of days ago, my boss pulled me aside, had an honest talk in which he (correctly) pointed out my flaws and (sincerely) advised me to reconsider my career choice (my boss happened to be a Capricorn too, and a good boss). It hit me at the core, as I had been having the same thought for a long time.. I worked at a law firm but I have never felt that I will fit in the profession; I can analyze (AC in Aries, Mars in Virgo and packed 8th house), but I simply do not have the mind to process the information (no Air, Sun/Mercury 0 degree conjunction in 8th house).
    Honestly, I have been stuck with depression for so long I cannot remember exactly when it started, and it left me devoid of any motivation. Future will be uncertain for me, as I do not know what I’m going to do upon quitting my job…

  42. I got a Grand Earth Trine Midheaven 10th house Capricorn Cardinal sign on apex, Chiron Taurus 1st house Fixed sign Left side and right side 6th house Virgo Mutable sign with Mars,Jupiter, Lilith and Saturn 26°, Pluto 8th house ♏ and Neptune 9th house ♐.. Mercury conjunct Natal 🌞 ♒ opposition full 🌙 in ♌..

  43. I would think a positive about having the conjunction in the fourth would be the possibility of bringing to light that which has been buried. Exploding those structures that have been too limiting or entrenched merely from tradition. Old stories about yourself or your family (or mother) that need to be turned to dust so that something new can begin. It’s Phoenix time!

    • Ah yes, I like the sound of Phoenix time!
      Funnily enough, I am currently going through the last of my deceased mum’s possessions that I haven’t been able to get rid of, but I also don’t know what to do with the photos. Some are beautiful old black and white photos of people in the past who are dead or estranged. I have no family members to pass them on to now or when I die. When I look at the photos they don’t make me happy because everyone in them has a tragic story/ending, from failed Oxford degrees to suicide!

      I think I will put them in a proper album and maybe there they will live until I die. It feels a bit old baggage tho.

  44. At 21 degrees it sounds like it is going to be quite close to my sun placement at 18 degrees in the 12th house and my ascendant at 26 degrees. So this will probably affect my identity and how i see myself and it will also affect my environment and physical life as well maybe. I suspect because the 12th house is involved it will bring unknown things to the surface as well that i will have to deal with. Who knows, i could end up a different person afterwards as a result of what happens or what comes to the surface.

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