Astrological Insight Into Deeply Ingrained Psychological Patterns

scorpionIf you want insight into a person’s deeply ingrained psychological patterns, you’ll want to look at their Moon. The Moon rules the family and chances are, if you do something on “auto”, it’s rooted in your childhood.

One of the things I do is throw men out of the house. I have thrown countless men out of the house, and if I can’t get them to go, I go myself.

My husband brought this up the other night. I have been throwing him out of the house since I was 17 years old! Matter of fact, I threw him out of the house on our first date. Yes!

I invited him to dinner, we ate, and then he said something I didn’t like and I told him to get the hell out!

Being polite, he agreed to leave without further incident… at which point I changed my mind – I have Libra – and said he could stay. He stayed and the rest is history.

However, throughout our history, I have continued to throw him out.

“You even threw me out of my barracks room once,” he said. “You ordered me to leave my own barracks!”

I laughed. I was a teenager then, hot-headed as they come.

“I had to inform you that it was my barracks room and it belonged to the Air Force,” he said. “This is not your room, so you can’t kick me out of it!”

“Well if I’ve been at it that long, why in the world do you think it would change? It’s my default reaction. I recall you being quite amused at my antics…”

I have a Jupiter-flavored Moon. If I become emotionally upset, I want space! I don’t want to be hemmed in. I want to leave or I want you to leave. I don’t really care which so long as I get away from you.

Now here is the interesting part: My husband’s Moon shows his attraction to an intense woman who disrupts things. Consequently, I’m his ideal.

No doubt you have similar deeply ingrained patterns as does your partner, if you have one. Maturity can alter their expression, but they’ll still be there.

For example, I may not throw my husband out at this age (though I might). But if we get into it, we’re best off to go to opposite ends of the house… which is exactly what he wants to do anyway.

People deny stuff like this. And they want to change it, especially in their partner.

But this stuff is so deeply embedded you’re probably better off to work around it. How much time and money should we spend trying to get me to love feeling hemmed in when I hate being hemmed in and it’s right there in my chart plain as day?

If this kind of analysis is interesting to you, check out the transcript of my Saturn in Scorpio workshop for a lot more of it. I don’t think you’ll be disappointed.

Is there something you do over, and over by reflex or some kind instinct? What?

 


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Astrological Insight Into Deeply Ingrained Psychological Patterns — 43 Comments

  1. My moon is in Taurus in the 8th house opposing my Scorpio sun and Mars in the second. I just had a karmic return of a person from the past…who wanted to hurt me….and I see how I had orchestrated it….by hurting him in the past…and not “Feeling” my pain. Tit for tat…now I see that and if someone hurts me now…I don’t need to return the pain.

    • Ditto except my moon in Taurus 8 opposes Saturn cj Venus in Scorpio. Now I think that I need to stop returning to old feelings of pain. It’s like when you worry a loose tooth with your tongue, and even after the tooth falls out, you miss the worrying/pain.

  2. I run away/retreat (Sag moon 8th house). If someone bugs me about something that’s not hurting anyone, but I just don’t fit their mold of what I should be doing with my life, I run. At the first sign of conflict with someone that I do not think is understanding, I run.
    I hate being misunderstood and not given a chance to explain myself or be myself. If I can’t run, then I become passive-aggressive (ignore texts, avoid certain events, etc) because most people don’t react well to, “I don’t really like you that much anymore. You like to nag me, but you can’t see your own errors that I don’t bug you about because that’s not my job,” or some variety of that statement. The few times I’ve been honest, the other person lashed out on me, so what’s the point?

  3. This is your strong 8 house. And maybe, question isn’t, that you want be alone. Maybe, question is you want to destroy things and do this very simply. If person disturbs you, you can kick him or you can drive out him. But these are very simply methods. More hard is be calm, dialog. And reason is in your childhood. See on sign where your 8th.

  4. moon sextile jupiter. I don’t like feeling grumpy and tense. So I exit when I’m being pushed. As a kid when someone(s) were screamin in my face and I could not take it any more I would let out a beller that would shake the house and silence everything. I was the only one who had the out and out ability to let out that primal scream from the depths of my bowels. I guess mars rx has a buildup reserve. 😀

    But yes I need space. I make a point of not overbooking, always leaving space in my life for the snafus. I ideally like to get up early so I don’t have to rush to be where I need to be. If I have to rush, the adrenaline kicks in, and I am in that zone, and out of my natural rhythm and sync. That is really the childhood residual with living in a house of rushers. I mean really there is always more work, it’s never perfect says virgo, why rush. My mother said she liked to go to church on sunday because it was one hour a week where she could sit still. Same thing with meals, she could sit. My relationships with my sisters are well oiled and working well and all. But my halloween fright came early after reading about elsa’s sister moving in. I imagined living with my sisters. Rush rush rush. Busy busy busy. Nuts nuts nuts!

  5. One of my sisters told me yesterday she has everything done. Yard and house. And she is on the run all the time. I can’t imagine that. Always more projects in the cooker here. She has to find something more to do. I hope she does or she will start makin trouble. Note to self: put together list of things for her to do to keep her out of my hair. Emergency preparation. 😀

  6. Well, I’ve never kicked someone out of the house (hah, like they’d listen to me and leave?! Never!), but I do want people to get the hell away from me when I’m upset–Sadge moon.

  7. Cappy Moon in the 12th House here; so Capricorn is on the ascendent as well. I need my oyster to sort through the irritations (both the ones I create and the ones others create). When I don’t have a ‘home’ or don’t get to my shell quick enough all hell breaks loose and it’s always the hell-within that’s deepest. My husband is Libra Moon-Cancer Sun with strong needs to make things right. Sometimes we don’t sync up and I’m trying to get the hell out and climb into my oyster when he wants to talk things through (he’s got lots of Gemini and Virgo rising). Time heals, we keep at it.

  8. I lash out if I feel my safety is threatened. If my physical safety is threatened, I physically lash out. I am not proud of this, in fact it hurts me deeply when it happens. And it seems like there is always someone around to shame me for an instinctual reaction. But my body seems to give me no choice. I do try to work around it. But yes if you get physical with me and I don’t want you to you are going to get slapped or worse. I slapped someone yesterday. It feels awful but they threatened me and I could not take it. I can’t take anymore pressure, I really can’t. I wish I never had to leave the house again.

    • I don’t slap. That’s another story. But I get that thing about being shamed for standing up for myself. I could never leave a family get together because I was being bullied without being shamed for it. They tagged me angry as if that was a sin. I wasn’t angry. I left before angry. They have no clue what angry is for me which is why I don’t go there.

      Threats . . . that’s the nastiest. Rat bastards!! My heart goes out to you.

  9. “Now here is the interesting part: My husband’s Moon shows his attraction to an intense woman who disrupts things. Consequently, I’m his ideal.”

    That’s it, that’s why my Husband has put up with me this far! He has a Moon opposite Pluto.

    • Oh dear moon opp pluto . . . I got that transit going on now. I’m dodgin those disrupters. To think there are promoters of this out there. Ouch! For my energy setup anyway, it’s not comfortable (cancer moon). Thanks for the eye opener. It’s not wrong. It’s just wrong for me.

  10. Self-sabotage (moon square 12th House Chiron *EXACT*), escapism (Moon square Neptune *EXACT*), lash out at people (moon loosely opposing Mars with a 4 degrees orb)
    I also have mild squares between the Moon and Uranus/Saturn. My moods are unpredictable and I tend to beat myself up a lot. Moon happens to rule my Chart, I’m a Cancer rising.

  11. I have 3rd house scorpio Pluto opposing my 9th house taurus moon- I NEED intensity in relationships, and in my partner as well, lately saturn in scorpio is beating my as* like there´s no tomorrow and lots of people in my life right now have saturnian effect on my moon- like pluto conjunct saturn transit isn´t enough by itself…

    Anyways, give me pluto emotions and synastry any day, saturn is just not my cup of tea AT ALL…

    And also- when I am pisse* off I cut off all communication, freeze you out, ignore you, or when somebody really hurts me- I just verbally smack them down, not being vulgar or anything like that, just say one sentence that attacks theirs most sensitive spot/area/something that I KNOW WILL HURT and then I am done with them FOR GOOD… my mother used to do that to me- boy, childhood patterns are at play, thats for sure! Pluto in 3rd house, no joke- I am going for kill, I give it but I am also on receiving end very often.

  12. “Is there something you do over, and over by reflex or some kind instinct? What?” See below. 🙂

    I would say that the natal report that I got from you elsa shows my tendencies as it pertains to my moon and it’s aspects pretty well…with a couple of exceptions here and there…. personally though I think that I’m just an odd mix of personality traits,instincts,habits and behaviours. 🙂

    As far as your experiences go Elsa, I envy your ability to be able to kick anyone at all out 🙂

    This is the moon portion from Elsa’s report for me…
    Moon in Virgo:
    You are very sensitive, cautious, and shy about showing others your feelings. Though you may love and care for someone a great deal, you rarely express those feelings openly and freely. Very often your love for someone will be expressed by trying to help them, doing something tangible to benefit them, or serving them in some way.
    It is also difficult for you to receive warmth, affection, or appreciation, for you often feel that you don’t really deserve it or that “they don’t really mean it”. You can therefore seem rather cool and aloof, much more so than you feel.
    A deeply ingrained critical attitude often makes you difficult to live with. You need to learn to be gentler and less of a perfectionist with others and with yourself.

    Moon in 3rd house:
    You often make decisions solely for emotional or personal reasons, because something “feels right” or because you’ve always done it a certain way and you are uncomfortable changing it. Even when you think you’re being rational, your prejudices, intuitions, and feelings influence your thoughts a great deal. You are comfortable talking about feelings and personal subjects, and sharing confidences, which enables others to express their own inner feelings with you as well. You have good psychological insight into others.

    Moon Sextile Uranus:
    Your emotional attitudes and instincts tend to be quite liberal. You do not want to be caged or dictated to, and you feel everyone is entitled to do as they please in their personal and emotional affairs. You tend to surround yourself with people who are unusual, creative, open-minded, unpredictable, restless, and changeable, and your relationships, with women in particular, may be somewhat unstable as a result. However, you enjoy an element of surprise and unpredictability.

    Moon Square Neptune:
    You are a dreamer, attracted to the inner, mystical side of life, and may have trouble distinguishing the real from the imagined or illusory. You do not enjoy confrontation and become very evasive when problems in your personal life arise, escaping into your imagination in order to avoid dealing with them directly. You are also rather gullible and naive about people, especially if your sympathy has been aroused. You are very sensitive to music and can use it to bring yourself into emotional balance and harmony.

  13. I go for the underbelly. *nods*

    Like a lot of y’all, I go for space first (Jupiter in Cancer, Aqua moon square Uranus). Get away — me or you, it doesn’t matter, just AWAY! But if that’s not possible, then I get just brutal and cutting. I go cold and will pull everything out of my memory banks to hurt you as much as I possibly can (moon/Pluto three ways, plus moon trine Mars).

    I’ve made grown men cry. I’m not particularly proud of it but it’s true.

  14. I have a Scorpio moon but I have never felt like anything I have read about it describes me very well. It’s at 29 degrees in the 7th house. I understand the 29 degrees thing is important too but nothing I have read resonates very well with me. If I may suggest a topic for the future, I’d like to read more about the critical degrees thing.

  15. With pluto now in my 12th, it’s been all about noticing these habits so I can move on with my life sans the psych crap. I think I have a pretty healthy moon.. aries in the 2nd trine uranus. I try to help and inspire people and not get too caught up in drama. The problem lies in the moon inconjunct venus/saturn in scorp. I think it’s been about denying myself the good things or not being able to accept good things about myself (def not a conscious decision). I internalized a lot of verbal abuse projected from mom as a kid.

  16. Well, goddam Elsa…that’s just pissy. It doesn’t happen often. Can we please not analyze it…I have enough guilt already. Virgo out.

    • I kinduv get what you are saying. I am not in a mood to go too far into it right now either. But that’s just me right now. And I do think in general I’m needin to kiss the past goodbye. Besides mars in virgo has work to do right now. Another time or transit, and I might be into it. Virgo out. 😀

  17. 1.Moon in the 1st house- In the first house moon makes a person a loaner like the 12th house. This position however makes a person think very logically and practically. Every move is calculated, and they do not tend to be very emotional unless being aspected by Mars in cancer, as in a Capricorn ascendant. Moon in the first house makes a person a restless, but a good business mind. But usually ruins the relationship with mother if in the enemy sign. Moon the ascendant usually shows a person who was nurtured by their mother and have taken on the identity of the mother and her values upon themselves and their personality. The native is very sensitive, emotional, imaginative and willing to help others all throughout life because ascendant is the controller of all the aspects of life. The face would be round and a bit chubby. The native would also have motherly and feminine qualities, but Moon is that one planet where the sign placement will determine its true nature like i.e. Moon in Aries would make the native very impulsive, aggressive and anger in nature. Their emotions would always be on the edge. Moon in Libra will be someone high on life, soft, gentle, creative and balanced in mind and nature.

    Moon in pisces in 1st house:

    Pisces Moon is ultra-sensitive to the immediate environment. Pisces is the sign of oceanic emotionality, of universal emotional connectivity. Which means that under the Pisces Moon, our visionary compassion is stimulated – we tend to feel more than ever that we are All-One. But the negative side of this transit is that we tend to be extra susceptible to bleed-through from the emotions of the people around us. It can be hard to tell which feelings are properly “ours” and which are feelings we’ve picked up from the people around us.

    All of these qualities apply to Pisces Moon natives (Pisces Moon in your birth chart). Pisces Moon people, whatever their outer demeanor may be, are ultra-sensitive on the inside. Pisces’ biggest challenge is its inherent lack of boundaries, and learning how to have appropriate boundaries and to get (and stay) grounded can be a lifelong task for Pisces Moon people.

    Pisces Moon is also easily influenced by entities in the astral realm – my feeling is that Pisces Moon people can, especially earlier in life, have a much harder time than other people with addiction – to drugs and alcohol, sure, but also and perhaps more frequently to energy vampires and to the kind of sexuality and/or fantasy that promises union with the Divine but ultimately leaves the native drained, depleted and disillusioned.

    Also I fantasize or dream alot! 😀

  18. Well, I have Taurus Moon in 4th house opposing Saturn Scorpio. Sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night from a bad dream and feel anxious, I usually run to eat something sweet; it’s funny, because I feel like I do that automatically: going to the fridge, and grab a piece of dark chocolate 🙂

  19. My Moon is in Gemini in the 11th, sextile Uranus and quincunx my Sun/Mars/Juno, also trines Chiron.
    I don’t like confrontation, badgering or demands at *all*, and will try to walk away from the situation rather than stand and fight back. If someone shows up at my door making demands, particularly if they have no right to do so and even more especially if they’ve lied to get the superintendent to unlock the security door for them… it makes me feel unsafe and threatened at home. And home is my “safe place”. I tend to get flustered in these types of situations, sudden attacks wherever they might be, cannot think clearly enough to respond appropriately — when an appropriate reaction would be to ask them whey they thought they could show up unannounced and uninvited, how dare they, and then I’d ask them to leave. It makes me embarrassed to admit that instead I will try to mollify to decrease the tension so that they will go away and leave me alone. The same type of thing has happened at work where I’ve been caught off-guard by people being insulting or denigrating my work, I get too flustered to respond and just walk away, and the other person thinks they’ve been proven right by my silence. It hasn’t served me well, overall.

    Then later I write an opus journal post about the whole thing, including what I would have said if I’d been able to keep calm, as a means of catharsis. It doesn’t always work, unfortunately, and sometimes it takes quite a while to be able to think of the situation without going into an emotional tailspin.

  20. Im a 18th sept virgo – dated a 7th nov scorpio boy since 9th april’13 for a month before he did a complete 180deg on me started avoiding me only wanted to chat onvthe phone, told me be loved me but never came to see me, we rarely met and so the only thing I kept doing everytime I go frustrated & because its the only thing I couuld get a reaction from him was breAking up with him,deleting him from my phone and after a few days want him back ..we’ve been over this again & again until he refused to wish me on my bday & deleted me never heard from him till 15th nov for 2min call because I txtd him wishng him for a feast but on 18th Oct I textd him & no reply so sgain I txtd him & said bye for good deleted his number. Needles to say I miss him & I want him back.. But it was more like me & my blackberry not me & him. Cant force anyone to talk to you.

  21. How fascinating!

    I criticize. Virgo moon, first house. If someone hurts me they should buckle in for a detailed recitation of their faults. Then I cry, drink, throw up and forget about it all.

  22. Hey thanks, good blog here. The Moon also rules your emotions, your Mother and how you relate. Moon in Capricorn, trouble with your Mother; at least it’s an Earth sign. Moon is exalted in Taurus, also Earth, mine’s at 29 degrees Taurus in the Pleiades constellation, the Seven Sisters, in the seventh house. And I did/do love my Mother! Wherever you are in this Universe Mom, I love you!!

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