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Not a tooth problem. Dentist is baffled!

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Not a tooth problem. Dentist is baffled!

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@elsa hmm might well be TMJ or referred pain from your neck. If you haven’t had issues with TMJ in the past, I would bet the latter. It could even be from your ear?

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@la_sirena no clue. He did dental x-rays but also an x-ray in one of those things that circle around your head.  Further, they are closed on Friday but the dentist gave me his cell phone number and invited me to call if I needed him.

He said there was very mild gingivitis and a tiny injury that was healing. Nothing that could cause this level of pain.  So now it's pc doc or ortho. Who knows?

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@elsa 

If the pain is near your ear, it sounds like TMJ.  I've had it a couple of times and its very painful.  Clenching your teeth, and grinding, can  cause it.  What helps with that is a night guard.  Its like a retainer and will prevent you from clenching and grinding.  They're about $20-30.

I never realized I was clenching when I was sleeping, but the night guard fixed it.  If you had an infection in your jaw, you would have swelling.  I had that underneath a tooth and never had any pain or fever because the nerve in the tooth was dead.  One day, my jaw swelled up and that's how I knew I had a problem.  I had my jaw partially rebuilt with new bone to replace the infected bone.

If that isn't the problem, its likely referred pain from your neck.

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@jofrance Thanks. I don't have ear pain or a fever or any kind of sinus issues.  The pain is at the back of my jaw but I can feel it shoot into my head; my face is also sort of numb.

I think it's nerve pain but not sure where it's coming from. They killed the nerves in my neck on the same side, about 3-4 years ago. I would told pain would come back... in 6 months. I've been pain free on that side until now.  So some nerves might be firing up.  I know I need to get treatment but don't know which doctor to see.

I have an appointment with my spine doc in a couple months - just a yearly check. I guess I can move that appointment up.

For the record, I have already had a brain mri for what turned out to be symptoms causes by a very common drug.

Really, I just want to avoid doctors. It's a long drive and I am trying to stay in business, in between period where I'm just going to quit.  I guess I'd say it's not a great for an annoyance like this.  Pain is back tonight and pretty intense.  It's also possible this is lupus, inflammation. I took my celebrex early (NSAID). I'll see if it and it alone curbs this at all. That may help narrow it down.

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It could be nerve pain.  If you look at medical pix of facial nerves and how they connect to the neck it seems like a real possibility this could be from your surgery.

I hope you can find out soon what's causing it so you can get some relief.  ❤️ 

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@jofrance It would be the nerve going back. Thanks.

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Maybe a collar might help.

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@jofrance it doesn't because I have a reverse curve besides the rest. Basically, my head is pulled back and fusing or it might be fused at this point. It's the top three vertebrae if I remember correctly. I'm almost positive that's what this is now that a tooth is ruled out.

 

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@elsa Elsa please go get an ekg. If you have ruled out dental and are not sure if it is related to your spine... know that jaw pain is a first red flag before a heart attack. People fail to recognize this all the time. Worth a look. xo

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@soup thanks. I did think of that but I think my heart is good. I have very, very, laughably low cholesterol and bp generally 110/60 or so.

I initially thought it was nerve pain, which I'm very familiar with.  It stabs the hell out of me, in bursts, like a hot wire.  It's also messing with my scalp.

I actually have drugs around here to deal with it but the side effects are horrific. 

I am going to have to wait until mid-July to see my PC doc and end of July to see my spine doctor.  This was a surprise to me. My PC doc is taking a week off so that explains that. 

 

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Anti-inflammatory supplements like Omega3 oil and Turmeric w/Bioperine could help.  Heat, ice, stretching, light traction.  Topical OTC pain cream containing highest available (30%) of Salicylic Acid (aspirin) -- Wal-Mart has some.  And rest!

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@warped doing the traction and celebrex x2 and heat. It's quite a better tonight. I hope it holds!

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The NSAID had no affect. I think this is from my neck. My neck problems are not what you might guess. They are up high rather than near my shoulders.  It's in the vicinity. 🙁

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It might be Occipital Neuralgia from impingement of the nerves where the spine meets the base of the skull (occipital bone).  I had many massage clients with this, and I had it myself occasionally from too much computer work, or from sleeping (I'm a stomach sleeper so head is always turned to one side, face smooshed into edge of pillow).  Lying flat on my back on the floor for a while usually helps.

https://paindoctor.com/occipital-neuralgia-symptoms/

 

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@warped thanks. This seems the most likely.'

I'm calling my spine doc today. Depending on what they say - how soon they can get me in, I may call my PC doc as well.

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I can’t even explain what’s been going on in my heart lately. I think I’m finally happy. I mean I’m not happy 24/7, happy is not the right word, but I have this contentment I’ve never had before. I’m overwhelmingly grateful. It’s so weird. Sometimes I could cry because of it. So many huge shifts in my life and all so seemingly out of the blue. Maybe I just tortured myself for so long, it’s the contrast that’s making me feel this way. 

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I'm so happy for you! 

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I am expecting a chain-reaction crashing, but unsure who will get hit and how. 

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I was listening to an investor group member (including real estate, hedge fund managers, and straite equities)  saying that they liquidated 75% of their holdings  pre-rate hike and are keeping it in cash in preparation to capitalize on the bloodbath. 

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I believe anyone can move their 401k funds from a target fund or such, to bonds or a stationary cash position if they haven't already, but Be Careful.  Back in 2008 I called TIAA and asked them to move my very small employer-funded target account to "something safe" for the time being.  Years later I discovered that It ended up in some sort of Non-Transferable Annuity, where it can only be withdrawn in small annual increments, not transferred to a different sort of account nor to my small, long established bank.  No big deal for a tiny account, but if this were to happen to someone's primary savings or retirement accounts...  Get all the details!

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Good to know, thanks.

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We're all getting hit right now with inflation. It was only a matter of time before the markets started tanking because of uncertainty and the poor economic outlook.

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A Stellium you can see with your eyes!
Mercury, Venus, Mars, Jupiter & Saturn w/the moon making a cameo. Look to the Northeast a couple of hours before sunrise every morning for the 2nd half of June. Being able to see 5 planets lined up like this is extremely rare so get up and go outside!
 
 This is rare.... make sure you don't miss it xo
 
 
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@elsa Thank you!!!!! I did not see this. Glad to read it and the comments too. Very interesting. People are saying its rare to see 5. We got a telescope and we watch on the back deck. We are out in the country and we can see the night sky on another level now. So beautiful. On the one hand you have to drive forever to get what you need. But on the other it sure is pretty out in the country.... critters and all!

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It is pretty rare to see such an alignment and so great that you have a telescope to see it.  Its fun.  The first time I saw Saturn through a telescope I was in awe of the rings.  It sounds like you have a great place for a telescope where the skies are free from city lights.  If you don't have dark skies the stars get drowned out.  I hope you have great fun with it.

 

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@jofrance It's so beautiful jo! You sure are right. Out in the country you can see things so clearly. I am in awe too! It's not the best telescope but it works good enough. I wish you could have seen us trying to set it up. What a hoot. Both of us laughing.

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