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I can't believe what he got away with and wonder how it was allowed to happen.  At least he is finally exposed for what he is.  For him, I wonder where you can go or hide from the ugliness of what you did.  He seems to be ok with it, I don't get that.

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"He seems to be ok with it, I don't get that."

If he wasn't ok with it, he couldn't have done all he did, in the first place!

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Primary suspects on how he got away with everything is that Sadge Neptune/Jupiter, in the 1st. All those personals in Virgo 10th- offering a squeaky clean facade & a razor sharp mind.

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that chart of his spells "ambition!!" "power!!" "authority!" He's also got that Grand air trine going on too, from his saturn gemini to mars aquarius to venus libra, lots of libra in the 11th, and double virgo in 10th. Lots of Saturnian energy. wow!! Jupiter Sag gives him alot of luck. he does have talent and luck, but sadly he used it in a very very bad way, and tore people down. That was very mean and cruel of him, but power is so important to him it seems. I saw the example video trailer on YouTube.

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McKenna said
"He seems to be ok with it, I don't get that."

If he wasn't ok with it, he couldn't have done all he did, in the first place!

Oh, most athletes are more than ok with this, and not all are overall appalling people, like Armstrong. This goes deeeep in  endurance sports.

 

I must say have very little respect for people who won track & field European Championships and Olympic Medals for my country in the early 1970's.  But maybe with an exception of one guy who is a full blown narcissist, they are just flawed people. My Mom was a respectable 1500 meters runner in the early 70's. She made it to National Team training with a laughable training program and a very faulty running technique. She had the physique, really amazing muscular power (I have this, but softer) and an extraordinary low heartrate, and better trainers - maybe the best in the World, at that time -  saw Olympic Medal potential in her. But she wouldn't be doped. My very drunk grandfather I have no respect for  once told he threw the pills her National Team trainer gave her to wood burn stove. I have no reason to doubt him in this. There was systematic doping program, which helped some pretty talented runners to pass from 10th-12th place in International Competitions to medals. They were really the last Europeans, with predominantly European genetic heritage, with Seb Coe and Steve Ovett,   to have any saying in running events, before Africans took over in the late 1980's.

And cycling was completely doped in the 1990's and early 2000's. Italian and Spanish doctors have come clear with their information, and it involves all major teams. Mostly, it was blood manipulation, but also human growth hormones and efedrine. I know someone who was part of a team too comfirming this. Cycling was the second most followed sport in Italy , France and Spain, just after soccer, and it never recovered of the blows dealt, when some major stars got caught in the turn of Millenia. In a way, Armstrong was the aftermath. After all the money lost in traditional cycling countries, The US was a new -and rich - market. What Armstrong and people behind him probably didn't understand is how much some people who were into this sport traditionally loathed "Americanization" of it. They were willing to distroy it completely rather than have it ESPNed. It probably didn't help that Armstrong himself was seen as a douce.

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