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Jenna Marbles quit YouTube! 

A lot of people are outraged that she’s leaving, because they sense that the cancel culture mob is forcing her out. It’s not clear yet if she is being pressured or not, but rumor has it there are people coming for her right now. 

I don’t know her very well, nor am I familiar with her content. My sister loves her channel and asked me to check it out. She does have a fun (and extensive) video introducing the world to her cool plant collection. I think she also painted herself to match her pet or something. Basically, she’s your average cool, unproblematic Virgo–and yet she still became a target!

Am I saying she doesn’t have anything to apologize for? No! We all say and do crappy things that we later regret and take back. But there is a WORLD of difference between one “blackface” video (which could indeed just be her sporting a tan!) and what Shane Dawson did–LOTS AND LOTS of blackface.

 

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And jokes about child porn. And fake masturbating to a poster of Will Smith’s daughter when she was 11 years old. THAT man should be cancelled. Not Jenna. 

Another example of cancel culture gone wild is Hulu deciding to pull an episode of Golden Girls in which two of the women sport mud masks. Whuuuuuut. My late husband wore a black charcoal mask every day to open up his pores and cut the oilies, even got his picture taken with it. Was he guilty of doing blackface, too? 

I could go on and on, but it looks like people are seeing Jenna’s emotional exit from YouTube as a line in the sand. THIS HAS TO STOP. Purge society of toxic things, yes, but I believe at this point we’re overdoing it. Now a realtor plans to stop using the term “master bedroom” because of slavery connotations. The term came from a 1926 Sears catalog. So far as I can tell, it had no connections to slavery. I could be wrong. “Whitening” products will be renamed. (No wonder I feel incredibly self-conscious now every time I ask the deli for “white” bread! It makes me cringe when I say it, and I feel incredibly racist. Isn’t that just the dumbest thing you ever heard?)

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Monday, June 29, 2020 - 8:04 pm
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I was living under a Pluto-transit sized rock until 2017-18 (still am in a lot of ways), and had no idea what the purpose of YouTube was—I didn’t know there were “YouTuber’s” or channels or whatever. Same with Reddit, and I’m still not on social media anything. 

Jenna Marbles was the first person I watched and subscribed to on YouTube, thanks to the person who posted her plant video here on EE (think it was elisa). She and her boyfriend Julien are wonderful… that was a really really dark time in my life and their lightness was something I clung to, for dear life at times. She’s a Virgo Sun, Aquarius Moon, Sag Rising… I’ve mentioned how much I love Aquarius Moons. Julien is an Aries Sun, Scorpio Moon, Cancer Rising. I could go on and on.

She made no excuses for herself. She’s a feeling person of integrity and intelligence. She finished her Masters in Sports Psychology before she began YouTube. But, she was not doing blackface, and everybody knows it. She had an awful fake tan that became a running joke—she worked at a tanning parlor at the time… She made some jokes… who hasn’t? That was also almost ten years ago and she’s in her mid thirties now. 

I think she needed a break, but I think this was a heavy straw, and not how she should have left YouTube. 

Shane Dawson is more complicated but at the risk of sounding like a “sympathizer” his brand was shock humor. Everything he ever said or did was to shock someone. That doesn’t make him an XYZ evil  pos. Words and thoughts are not actions (I’ve heard Thoughtcrime before…). He took it too far in many instances but I don’t believe he’s guilty of what’s being accused.

The people coming for him and everybody else either weren’t around in the 90’s or 00’s or have conveniently forgotten due to this politically correct tsunami. Anyone remember Tropic Thunder (2008) and how many awards it was nominated for and won? Or how about the show Glee (2009) which was touted as this groundbreaking progressive show about inclusivity? The comedic irony that show was based on would be intolerable to folks today. I could go on and on about even more recent jokes made by others about the various subject matter people are mad about. In the words of Joe Rogan—It’s just jokes, folks… Andrew Schulz says he feels it’s his obligation to talk about things people say are off limits…. how about that perspective?

People are willingly turning their brains off at this point.

Oh and @Elsa, Reddit banned 2000 active subreddits. (What on earth????)

Eliminating words eliminates ideas which ultimately eliminates the ability to think critically which eliminates the ability to determine when we are getting fucked and creates nice quiet complacent proletariats.

At first, it might seem trivial since it’s “just a bunch of YouTuber’s,” but the implications are so much more serious. 

Yes, cancel culture absolutely needs to go, but I wonder how far it will get before that happens. 

On the flip side, I think a lot of YouTuber’s are frustrated with the increasing restrictions (Jenna Marbles included) and I think some might be planning to go truly independent. I mentioned briefly that Joe Rogan is leaving YouTube at the end of the year, so it’s just my sense that some may be feeling the need to make similar moves. 

Anyway, sorry for the length and sassiness. I’m just so disturbed at the level of censorship going on and flagrant disregard for freedom of thought and speech. 

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Monday, June 29, 2020 - 8:33 pm
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Here’s them link to Reddit’s new “policy” and list of deleted subs: 

The_donald – as well as 2000 other subs – have been banned. from Conservative

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Also, the Jenna Marbles sub has been deleted or privated or something. Super weird. Perhaps too many defending her bs “blackface”…? Dunno

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I haven’t come across any cancelled youtubers, and I don’t use reddit at all, so for whatever reason I’m not really familiar with the term “cancel culture.” But I feel like this is in the same vein as something I mentioned in a previous thread – which was basically the normalization of “if you do/don’t support ___, then please unfriend/unfollow me” posts on social media. I think this is an example of cancel culture in people’s personal circles? How to people expect to inspire change by being so quick to burn bridges and throw people under the bus? I don’t get it.

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I can name a few (many temporarily only)….

John Kuckian, Onision, Manny Mua, Laura Lee, Jaclyn Hill, James Charles, and now Shane Dawson (whose YouTube channels have all just been demonitized, meaning he just lost ALL his YouTube income). 

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How about when they hold people responsible for the comments on their content? That’s just crazy. 

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 10:48 am
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We’re headed towards “social credit”. Safe(r) to connect with people on platform like mine where you can use a screen name.
I don’t collect anything. No phone number… I couldn’t care less if you use a dummy email. I don’t ask you to sign in with google. 😉

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When social values begin to shift, it’s difficult but necessary to grapple with what came before. I think this process is inevitable, but I also think it could be handled with more grace. As the Dalai Lama observed, “The world is drunk on anger.” That said, I’m not a member of the groups that were historically disadvantaged, so what I think is irrelevant. 

Unfortunately, with Mars in Aries squaring the Capricorn conjunction for the next 6 months, clashes between agitators for change and those upholding the status quo aren’t going anywhere for a while. 

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I think the root of the digital Cancel Culture is the misunderstanding that people have the right to not be offended and we should legislate out any and all possible offenses. It’s so childish.

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Chip chip chipping away at our Freedoms. Censorship is offensive to me!

I just can’t fathom the thought process of people that think this is what positive change looks like. Do they not know that they are next in line? It’s so arrogant. 

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Had to google the English word for it, but it reminds me of Pillory( town square shame-cross) lets shame this person in a way to hide their own sceletons; at least they are not looking at me. Also, all Pr is good Pr, I feel a lot of people are finding ways to put themselves into the conversation by creating their own “redemption arc”. 

We just have to see each other, pull the rope together. 

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I am not now or ever apologizing for who I am to the world. Nor will I ever apologize to the world for any mistake I have ever made. 

If I made a mistake I have had to personally pay for it already or IT’S COMING. We get right back what we put out there. You make someone feel like shit, you are going to have to feel that same thing at some point. 

The Universe sets us all straight. 

I am what I am. I had no say in it. I was born to the two people who decided to put me on the planet. How can I apologize for that? My hair color? My eye color? My skin color? I can not. 

Cancel me I say… I really DGAF!! And, I would say this on TV live in front of the whole frigging world. 

It’s stupid. We should not be censored and if we are this is the beginning of a nightmare. 

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Youtube deleted David Ickes channel back in May because he said something that contradicted the WHO and the CDC. This is exactly their explanation.

Do people really think that google gives a shit about our health? They want to control our minds. 

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From Wikipedia:

“Newspeak is the fictional language of Oceania, a totalitarian superstate that is the setting of George Orwell’s dystopian 1949 novel Nineteen Eighty-Four. To meet the ideological requirements of English Socialism (Ingsoc) in Oceania, the ruling Party created Newspeak, a controlled language of simplified grammar and restricted vocabulary, meant to limit the freedom of thought—personal identity, self-expression, free will—that threatens the ideology of the régime of Big Brother and the Party, who have criminalized such concepts into thoughtcrime as contradictions of Ingsoc orthodoxy.”

 

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I recently saw this on Cancel Culture, I think it is a good rundown:

This is from one of the comments:

Love your breakdown! Cancel culturists believe:

1. they can say anything they want, but you can’t;

2. that you don’t have to think because they can think for you;

3. and two wrongs make a right

I find the subject suddenly interesting. There is this as well, from another source:

‘Narcissists’ are renowned for using ‘psychological projection’ to blame other people, even when it is entirely apparent that they are the ones in the wrong.

I’ve been tracking transiting Mars for insight into some of my previous experiences, and I do think this mindset is very reminiscent of transiting Mars. It is the practice of condemning while allowing no opportunity for the target to negotiate (i.e office job). Thusly, I think possibly there may be a movement in relation to this as Mars goes retrograde on September 9th.

This is also the same day that Hillary Clinton goes to trial for her email scandal. So it kind of fits if cancel culture is broadly on the left that something correlated with this event may influence it.

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