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Granted, Pluto is transiting conjunct my ascendant.
Granted, I have a packed 8th house.
Granted, there is a motherlode of Scorpio in my progressed chart but I still have this question: Are a lot of people dying around you?

Start with my neighbor who lost more than ten friends, plus two family members and his dog in a year's time. That was 2021 into the first part of the year. This phenomenon has spread out.

I don't think this is me but it might be. Years ago, I wrote about all the people who died when I was a kid, up until I was about 21 or so... MANY people died. Then people stopped dying and I mean, this stopped cold.

I wrote about it a couple times. Like no one had died around me at all for more than ten years... ten years became fifteen and then twenty. I said at the time; clearly this can't last. I always expected another onslaught.

When I was young, I dealt with death, poorly. I was just so overwhelmed. I had a friend commit suicide and could not face her mother for example.  There was so much death around and no guidance, anywhere. 

When I wrote about this, I wondered if I would deal with it better when the deaths started back up. As it turns out, I'm dealing much better. I can credit my husband for this. He's also seen a lot of death (Scorpio moon) and I've a learned a lot from him.

Are a lot of people dying around you? For the record, I expect this to continue, at least until Pluto leaves Capricorn. Death is real.

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I feel surrounded by babies. I'm a 35 year old female, so this should not be surprising, but for some reason I did not realize how many births there would be at this time in my life! It's more striking for me personally since I am lacking a child or pregnancy - haven't even had any miscarriages that I know of. But my husband has been surrounded by death for his whole life. Having grown up in a fly fishing shop, and working as a trout guide, for his entire life, he tends to know a lot of old men who smoke and drink. He still doesn't deal well with death.

 

ETA my husband has Jupiter Uranus conjunct in his 8th.

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There have been a few more deaths at arms length in the last few years but I expect there to be a rash in the next few years as I have a lot of friend over 70 and Pluto is just now squaring my ASC and will soon conjunct my 2 Aqu IC.  

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I wanted to start a new topic about dreams and deceased family members in my dreams and then I saw this topic. Yes, from an early age, I was always surrounded by death. Sickness and death to be precise. I have 3 planets in the 8th house, ASC in Scorpio, and two more planets in Scorpio. I've read it in those general descriptions of each sign when a person has Scorpio rising, whenever or wherever you come somewhere, you will bring a change: people will die, get sick, quit their jobs, etc. I thought it was funny, but I started to observe things closely, and somehow, it came true. I was dealing with death poorly too, but in time and experience, it's so normal for me. I was raised and I am a Catholic. Years ago, I was in my early 30's, my second cousin died. He was sick since he was born, and couldn't walk and talk, he was really sick, but my uncle and aunt took care of him for over 40 years. When he died, my mother took me to their house to pay our respects. I thought: poor people, to lose a child, it must be devastating. Before going to see them, my mother told me something I didn't expect: you have to know, in that house, death is not like you think it would be. there will be no tears or sadness, they respect death and see it as a glorious new life, they aren't happy, but they know there is another life after this, and they know they will meet with their boys again and that gives them comfort, for them life continues. 

 

I believed it myself too, but I never saw death without tears, sadness... i thought my mother was exaggerating. She wasn't. I can't say they were happy, but there were no tears, no deep sadness, just a kind of holiness in that house. I have never felt or seen anything like it. When my mother was dying last year, I was scared and full of emotions, but what I witnessed in that house, many years ago, gave me the biggest comfort. And I'm at peace, because I know all of my family is at peace. I'm not afraid of death, I dream specific dreams, and then I know that I will receive the news, I can feel it when I enter the room. Yes, many people died around me and still are. But... Death is not the end, just a new beginning and I respect it. It takes time, experience, and to have a strong mind, but a mild and warm heart not to be afraid of death.

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No one I know first hand has died. I know of quite a few people who have died through friends and acquaintances. 

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Yes, I have seen a lot of death. My family and my husband's family always gets warnings before these passings. Lately, I will get a warning and find out later that a person I knew has died. My husband has done this, too. He had a large family on his mom's side and they have been falling like dominos.

For some reason many of them pass in February. Back in 2018, one of my husband's maternal uncles died and two days later, my husband's dad died.

I am always incredulous to hear about people not having family or friends die. That shocks me.

I was taken to funerals as a child and didn't really get affected until I was 15. The death of my maternal great grandmother was the first that I shed tears over. But two years and a day later, losing my stepdad suddenly left me traumatized for life. Nothing has felt that emotionally painful, since. The people I have lost since, even my mother, has not hurt as much. I think it is because I have expected the others passing, but truthfully, the part of me that was carefree and innocent died that night in November 1987, under the sign of Scorpio. Yes, I got warnings of his death before, but it never registered. Mom even dreamed about his funeral, except it was one of her uncles in the dream. She dreamed the details and kept dreaming of caskets. She'd sit up screaming, terrified of them. Which is why I had her cremated and scattered with family.

I dreamed of my mother dying a month before she passed. As I said, lately they are getting stronger. Just last Saturday, I dreamed about three birds of prey and I knew that I'd hear about a death. That very evening a member of my husband's family died.

Our friend, wrote me a few weeks ago to tell us that people she knew were dying suddenly around her. Young people passing left and right.

I write these events in journals and I have quite a few of them.

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@tonya I dream of white dresses or wedding dresses. Last year, two days before my mum passed away, I dreamt of a short white wedding dress, and I knew death was knocking on our door. I have one more dream that's very indicative, I dream of meat: fresh, rotten, roasted, and I know I will get sick in a few days.

 

If you don't mind asking, do you dream of your deceased mother and stepdad? And if you do, are they trying to tell you something? Some kind of warning, anything?

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@dori I had a dream of them at a Burger King and mom, being her usual self had a gift for me. I hugged her and told her to be happy. I don't dream about her much anymore.

My warnings come as dreams, knockings, birds, and strange lights.

Since 2016, anytime I see a red tailed hawk close, I hear of close death. I tell you that year one landed on a buggy holder at a Walmart next to where I sat! I didn't see it fly in and it sat for a minute and lifted and was gone. I sat there stunned. Yes, a major death happened two weeks later.

Before my husband's sister died, I saw a hawk flying over my head. I could see the spots on it. She used to see a falcon close up before hearing of death. She also would see a glowing woman in white walking through her yard and hear of someone passing shortly after.

When I dream of children, it is an omen of death. I feel like I have Death radar. I also get warnings for strangers. Before hurricane Katrina hit, I went to my knees crying terribly for a massive loss if life to the South of me. That was awful.

Even now, I have an uneasy feeling that something is about to happen.

It's interesting that you dream of a white dress as a warning. They can take any form to send the message. I have Irish-Cherokee ancestry. I have heard the cry of the Banshee too and it makes your hair stand on end. Plus, owls are both my husband's and my big warnings. Each time we see one, we get word of another death. They seem to follow my husband. It's strange. The last time he saw one was back in March and in April his sister's, boyfriend passed. He died a year after her and two days after her birthday. She'd died in the month he was born. I heard her voice at her grave call his name. I was not asleep, nor was I on anything. I will tell you that it scared me badly.

I smelled carnations at the first of June and on the 2nd, a relative who I spent a lot of time staying all night with her daughter, passed away. She was one of those I thought of as a 2nd mom.

I could write and write on this subject, but I will stop here.

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@tonya Owls!!! I forgot about it. My grandfather used to hear them in our old family house, and each time he heard them, someone would die within 2-3 days. That was his biggest sign that death is coming. I live in a big city, but last year, a few weeks before my mum died, I heard an owl in our backyard, and in an instant, I knew that her death is near. I can feel the deceased near me, their energy. When my grandfather had a stroke, we knew he wouldn't survive, he was critical. I was at home waiting for the news when suddenly I had a feeling someone passed down the hall of our apartment and I knew I wasn't alone, I knew he died. Immediately I called the hospital, but they didn't want to tell me anything, I was insiting for confirmation that he died, but then my mum called on my other phone to inform me he passed away. We had a very special connection, he adored me and I loved him more than anything. I didn't drop a tear when he died, at his funeral, I was so angry with him that he died and after that, I fell in some kind of shock after his death. I stopped coming to our family house because I thought if I don't come, in my head, he will still be alive. It took me almost 3 years to come back, after endless numbers of dreams where he would say: come, I'm waiting for you. But, even after I came, those dreams never stopped. He's sending me a message that I don't understand.

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When I dream of babies, usually I have a problem at work after that. When I was at university and when I would dream of babies or that I'm being pregnant, I never passed my exam. Never. 🙂

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And in the night before the tsunami in 2004, I dreamed I was in our summer house and that my late aunt, who died just 2 weeks before that event, told me to protect all the windows because the tsunami is coming and that we need to protect the house. Imagine my face when I saw the newspapers...

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@tonya do you have any specific natal chart placements? 8th house, 12thouse?

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@dori Aquarius Rising and my Uranus is in my 8th. Pluto sits 1 degree before my sun, and squares my moon. I have venus, Jupiter, and neptune at the top of my chart in Scorpio. Saturn, the old ruler of Aquarius,is in Taurus in my 3rd in the Placidus chart, in my 4th in the Equal chart. Neptune conjuncts my MC. I've been told that I am like a radio receiver that picks up things beyond. I usually have nightmares of dead people trying to reach me.

Several years ago, I dreamed that a skeletal version of Queen Elizabeth was biting my hands as I fought her off. Later that day, on the radio I heard, QE's hand washer had died. I just sat there with my mouth open.

I have had a strange life.

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@tonya oh wow!!! I could listen to your stories for days! wow!

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@dori Thanks. I love hearing other people tell teir experiences, too. I collect them, to add to my journals. 🙂

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@dori Yes. I had a dream in July of 2001 of two walls of fire moving by my mom's parent's house and a plane crashing near. My grandparent's anniversary was 9-11.

My husband's was even more of a doozy. In August of 2001, he dreamed that an earthquake was about to shake the world. So, we go to our park and this man comes near us talking to his group, about the 1811 earthquake that made the Mississippi river run backwards and shook church bells un Boston, Mass. The big eq ouside of Memphis TN. The two of us looked at each other and went home. In September, we all know what went on.

Yes, we seem to pick up on big events.

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@dori That is interesting. Your Grandfather may be telling you to come accept you yourself have the gift-curse of knowing when death approaches.

In the summer of 1998, I dreamed that I was standing on the local cemetery at night when I watched the wife of a 2nd cousin walking up the hill wearing all black. There was a light inside her veil and I could see that she was crying her eyes out.

On March 4, 1999, my great aunt died and two weeks after that her only son died. That was the mother in law and husband of the cousin I saw in my dream. They were buried were I stood in my dream.

My maternal grandmother had some doozy nightmares about her daughter dying. In reality it would be her son in law. These things came through both sides of my mom's family. My grandfather would dream about floating caskets before getting news of death.

In 2013, for one whole week in November, my biological dad and I had strange things happen. One was his tv started ringing and freaking us out. He had to unplug it and plug it in again. Another night, we heard his neighbor knocking and she wasn't out there. In December, her mother passed and another of my great aunts passed.

One of my scariest events happened in 2000.My husband and I were asleep, when I heard his dad beating our door down. I got up to find out what he wanted and no one was there! I shut the door and turned around to go back to bed when I heard that pounding behind me. I ran back to bed! I found out my husband hadn't heard anything. Later, in the Autumn, he heard what sounded like a pie tin being banged on the walls outside and nothing was there. His mom passed in Feb. 2001.

I have to add her story too. She was sitting on their porch one day in 1989, when she saw her mother in law walk around the corner of the house loking at her, asking where they were, because she needed them. Now, the mother in law was in a different state being put in the hospital for the last time. I don't think they made it in time to see her, tho. That has always stayed with me.

It is weird how these things happen.

 

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@tonya Did you ever think that you are maybe disturbed by entities that aren't wanting you good? To paraphrase, do you feel them too?

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@dori Yes, I can sense them. I have had visits from my mother who seems to like to use coffee as her scent. I gripe and tell her she knows I hate coffee, and the odor turns to roses, her favorite flower.

There have been times when my husband and I will be driving around at night, and we will get strong feelings of something about to happen. He calls it a disturbance in the force. Like Star Wars. It usually means another death or change.

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@tonya so was it your mother or someone else?

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@dori The coffee/ roses is mom. But I haven't had any visits in a long time. She passed in July of 2019. I got a lot of warnings about her. I got a letter from a friend and a small piece of paper fell out and when I picked it up and read it, it was about a person we went to school with that had a crush on me in grade school who had just lost his mother. Believe it or not, I even saw a picture of mothman over a KFC. Mothman is a death omen and Kentucky fried chicken was my mom's favorite restaurant. Another thing, a cardinal bird fluttered up in my face and they were her favorite birds. So, I was prepared for her to go.

I did have a dream not long after she passed where she came out of a bright white light and was very happy. That was great and I feel she is happy now.

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@tonya Really, I wouldn't mind listening to you for days, thank you for sharing all of your stories and experiences. It's a truly amazing gift you have, tho I do believe you get scared, I did too. I had a for a long time dream where suddenly, out of nowhere the devil in some kind of human form would come. I've seen many scary things and experienced them too, but this, this is beyond anything scary, it's completely terrifying and pure evil, an evil that I've never seen or experienced in my life. I would wake up in a completely cold sweat, shaking, so afraid I would cry. Then one time, he literally said to me: I will take your father. My dad was already gone for years when he said that. But then something snapped in me and I pushed him and said: if you just dare to do it, I will destroy you. And I started pushing him and praying, I never dreamed of him anymore. Maybe once I felt the presence in my dream but when I start praying, he runs away.

 

I had a dream of my mum after she passed away, the first time when I dreamed of her, she was waiting for me at the door and she didn't look well, she just said: I'm still not good, I need help. 

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@dori Thanks, and that was a terrifying nightmare you had. Good that you fought back.

I don't know if I would call it a gift due to the sadness that bombards me.

In 2019, January, I suddenly got this vision of black sludge taking over the world and I had already had a feeling of desolation while being outside. When the Lock downs happened, I knew that was my feelings and vision.

Around that same time frame, I had the thought that someone was going to fall and need help. A week later, our neighbor fell and broke his leg and screamed for help. My husband and I ran to help him and cover him before he froze. It took the paramedics a while to get to him.

This stuff just comes out of the blue and I have been shopping and get strange feelings and I just freeze for a while. I know I look odd on their cameras. Lol.

There us no controlling it.

I used to see things on people too. One man I worked with, I kept seeing him in old clothes like in a Charles Dickens' story and I told him so. He was surprised and told me he was in a play by Dickens. A Christmas Carol. Lol.

I never know what will happen or when. 

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@tonya I see it as a gift, but as always, not all the gifts are great and we are always happy with them, but as a fellow companion in this, I do see it as a great, but heavy gift. You see, your gift saved your neighbor's life. Silver lining. My gift comes more through my dreams and it's connected with deceased ones and sickness and I also never know when or what will be. I just know, something is about to happen but unfortunately, it's rarely something good, and that's what makes me sad, because I know I can't expect something great and happy. And one more thing I see about you, you can share it with your husband, he shares this life with you, and I would call it a great blessing. My bf doesn't accept this about me, he says it's a coincidence or my subconscious. I rarely can talk with him about things I feel or dream about. My world with this gift, it's a lonely world.

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@dori Thanks for pointing out the good. I know what you mean when it seems to always be bad news.

There is no such thing as coincidence. Synchronicity yes. There is nothing that happens that isn't fated. No one will ever change my mind on this.

I'm sorry you don't have anyone to share your experiences with, although this thread has caused an avalanche from me. 😁

All of these things are what the 8th house means to me. 

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@tonya, of course, there is no such thing as coincidence, but try explaining it to someone who thinks that all the world revolves around rationality and intellect, and at the same time my world revolves around emotions and intuition, two completely different worlds... We clash a lot when it comes to this, and already he sees emotions as weakness, I like to say, he sees them as a second-hand thing. So, no one, not even my by will change my mind, because I know what you and I have been exchanging last few days, it's more than real. We are just "lucky" enough to have a view of this other world and I enjoyed your every word about it because I find it fascinating, scary, but utterly fascinating. I have a lot of 8th and 12th house, so I feel you about it. I don't want it, but I have it and I need to make the best of it. 😀

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@dori The only way someone can understand is to experience it themselves. Then again, there are those that will keep denying it out of fear.

I try to tell people when I get those warnings to be careful. It is like the dangerous aspects of Astrology, I warn them to keep their heads up and watch out. It is all one can do, besides praying for protection.

I am sorry that your boyfriend shuts himself away from emotions. I have had family like that and I always acted stoically around them to keep the peace. It's tough though. 

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@tonya I do the same, but only with people that believe in my dreams and abilities.

My family, and boyfriend and his family, are all st stoic all the time, so I've learned to withdraw my emotions near them. It's exhausting. Like they have an allergy to emotions or when someone is emotional. I agree, very tough to be around them, I can't feel I can be like myself.

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@tonya

i've been reading and thats so amazing of your gifts. You have a very similar signature gift as my mother. thank you for sharing them. 

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@elisa You're welcome. 😊

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