Years ago I wrote about how old lovers come back when Venus opposes Pluto. I called them “corpses” which seems to have caught on in the astrology world.
I went on and on about how these people would come back from the dead…or rise from the trash can you put them in, to bug you or in some cases, bug you out. (search corpse on this blog)
I can’t say I’ve never done this myself. Contacted someone I probably should have left alone.
I had a double Aquarian friend, she used to do it to people all the time. She’d call up some guy she knew would not be expecting to hear from her. She did it for the shock, I think. But here’s the thing…
Years later, I did it to her. She did not like it one bit. Pretty funny, huh? That’s Venus Pluto for ya.
There may be a family theme this time around, with the opposition between Cancer and Capricorn. “Hey man! I’m your son from 18 years ago…”
That’d be a shock, huh?
There’s been so much going on with Mars retrograde, this kind of snuck on me. But I’ll tell you what I’m seeing. Shadow social stuff. “I’m your friend, not really.”
Yuck.
That’s why I chose the bug pic. I hope you like it.
What’s happening out there in your land?
It would take a miracle from God to revive and heal the corpse in question for me. Many years of prayer would be answered and I would shout…It’s a Miracle ! But, after those many years of prayer, I’m afraid all I have is worn out knees and little hope. Mars retrograde has been hard .
Hi.Does that mean also your lover from your “past life” will be back….and how this will happen….I feel I know someone from my past life but I am confused….capr sun Leo rising piches moon
Yes, that would fit. 🙂
Thank you Elsa! I mean really “past life” because I never seen this man in this life but I have that strong feeling to know him….
I mean really “past life” because I never seen this man in this life but I have that strong feeling to know him…
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I’m really interested what that really means, because this seems to be so big thing….feelings that I know a person some mysterious way and this person lives other side of the world and is so so many years younger than I am,(adult anyway) but feels familiar and deeply close so it is hurting me…
If you’ve never seen this person, how do you know them or of them?
max
[‘Curious.’]
You said that : how can I know…it is that I have the same question : how…just feel but is that only some dream world ….?
Let’s back up and try again: you don’t know this person. You’ve never met them. You presumably don’t know what they look like. Yet you know how old they are and where they are located – how? How did you know they existed so you could look for them in the first place?
Did you have some memory or dream about them?
max
[‘Confusion.’]
I’ve had corpses in my dreams this week. Hopefully none will surface in real life.
I have natal Venus (Aquarius) opposing Pluto. My marriages, now that I can look back on them, were all finishing up relationships. When we parted, I could feel we were complete. It was pretty weird until I thought it might be rectifying Karma. I have remained friendly with these guys, so guess it went well.
Had a dream the other night about a guy I dated then a mutual friend ran into him a few days later. Had a dream last night about a double sadge that was in and out of my life for a while and a guy that I have a crush on from afar. In the dream the double sadge was being a jerk to me and the crush was comforting me. I don’t have much of an idea what my crush is actually like and since he’s married I don’t intend to get too close but in my dream he made me feel so protected. I wouldn’t be bothered if I ran into the double sadge. He’s not a bad guy and I acted pretty horrible to him the last time I saw him. It might actually be nice to let him know I’m on a better path and am working on sobriety and maybe apologize.
I have Venus opposite Pluto. I work to internalize transits whether they happen in the outer world or not. Same w dreams. Venus as faster moving planet visits Pluto like Persephone Queen of the underworld & only God/goddess who could come & go from underworld. Your crush in inner world (Venus) intrigues you & makes you feel protected & you want to know more about that part of your psyche. (Not act out in drama w married man.) Love yourself even out of ashes of our woundedness….life long learning for me….
Welcome, Suzanne. 🙂
Wow! Thanks for that thoughtful response Suzanne:)
There’s been so much going on with Mars retrograde, this kind of snuck on me. But I’ll tell you what I’m seeing. Shadow social stuff. “I’m your friend, not really.”
Truthfully, it wouldn’t bother me if old female acquaintances showed up to bug me but whenever you suggest that might be happening, it never ever does. Possibly I’m too intimidating, or perhaps it’s all just too sad or I’m just a terrible person. Whatever.
On the other hand, shadow social stuff seems to be part of the essence of the Pluto/Uranus so there’s no time in the last 4-5 years that shadow social stuff isn’t going on. I’m not this and I’m not that and I’m surely not that even though I’m way not enough of that other thing either. Funny how everyone’s identity is acceptable to just a few even though everyone’s identity is supposed to be OK.
I’m a Scorpio though (not acceptable!) and I’m used to it (not acceptable), because I’ve studied astrology (WAY not acceptable), but I’ve also read thick books by actual economists (not acceptable, especially to economists) and real history history books by actual historians (Poindexter! not acceptable) and so on and so forth through a rather long list. This seems to have intensified the unacceptability, so that’s nice. 🙂
Also, stereotypes are wrong so now everyone is going to stereotype to the max. Yay. It’s actually funny how hard people seem to be working to be annoying, but then, it’s an election year.
max
[‘If this is more Saturn-Neptune, then it’s merely dull in the most annoying way possible.’]
p.s. Past life effects sound interesting but also impossible to discern, what with the having died thing.
seems to me like people are waiting for someone to come back to THEM… if you have some unresolved karma with someone, would this be a good time to be the corpse yourself?
I have definitely realised that when you’re finally ready to see a person or a situation for what it really is, sometimes it just takes that last bit of contact (that you ‘shouldn’t make’) to realise it’s more resolved than you realised.
so I wonder is this a good time to be the corpse yourself? obviously it ain’t dead if you’re still thinking about it.
I’m really interested what that really means, because this seems to be so big thing….feelings that I know a person some mysterious way and this person lives other side of the world and is so so many years younger than I am.,(adult anyway) but feels familiar and deeply close so it is hurting me….You say ” be better to not take that corpse myself”….???
Well said
Tell me more…will you
seems to me like people are waiting for someone to come back to THEM… if you have some unresolved karma with someone, would this be a good time to be the corpse yourself?
Must this be unresolved karma or does mere mild sentiment qualify?
so I wonder is this a good time to be the corpse yourself?
Seems unwise.
max
[‘One hardly wishes to be unpleasant.’]
Hahahahah.
You’re funny.
Mild or extreme sentiment does qualify for sure. But it might be karma… How do we know?
Yes! Being the corpse yourself is an unwise move but only if you stay stuck thinking about the person after you’ve turned into a corpse. Like for real, how many people spend weeks, months, years wondering about someone….
When had the person just let their crazy out and said all they needed to, they would’ve been able to let it go…
Anyways that’s just my thinking… Is it wise? Don’t know. Do I have a whole bunch of shit sitting inside me that I should’ve/could’ve/ wished I said… Not at all.
So sometimes for your own healing, you have to be the crazy corpse that said too much… Cos then when you get a shit response, or not one at all you can finally tell yourself… You did all you could and they’re not interested for the millions of reasons out there.
I think it’s way better to let things die on our own terms…. Even if that means after the actual death ahaha.
You don’t have to get all stalker about it… Just say what you need to say. Who cares.
I think when someone re-enters your life as a corpse too, it’s cos they need to see you for some reason, as there is some part inside of them that isn’t resolved and so we give them the courtesy of being awkward and weird, so they can move on, or something.
Anyway. My two cents.
Hahahahah. You’re funny.
I used to be but then my progressed sun moved into Cap. Kids! Don’t let this happen to you!
Mild or extreme sentiment does qualify for sure. But it might be karma… How do we know?
That was my question. I mean Venus/Pluto seems pretty nifty to me but you know perhaps my sense of uh, fun is a little more intense than most.
Yes! Being the corpse yourself is an unwise move but only if you stay stuck thinking about the person after you’ve turned into a corpse.
OK, well, that’s not my problem here then. Unless it was the fun kind of corpse and then it would be OK.
You did all you could and they’re not interested for the millions of reasons out there.
Perhaps that’s my problem – when its over it’s over, and there you go.
I think when someone re-enters your life as a corpse too, it’s cos they need to see you for some reason,
Ah. Never happens to me. So again with the karma: either its OK or really bad. Hard to say.
Anyway. My two cents.
This past lives thing is an interesting to me, but then for whatever reason people start rattling on about Atlantis and it’s like, ‘Uh. No.’ So much for karma.
max
[‘I’d be willing to buy if anyone was offering anything similar to things I have lived through but very often not. Or never. So.’]
Without reading this post, upon awakening this am, I thought to myself, “why did I just dream about that ex? That was 20 years ago!” But look an behold, I read this post, and AHA! –always happens with this transit. Does it mean to contact, or just stirring get up memories?
“I’m your friend, not really.”
Rings too true for me. In the wake of the referendum last week, I’ve seen so many friends falling out – I know at least 5 really good, old friends have disconnected from me over differing opinion. It’s heartbreaking that old friends have fallen out over politics but it’s happening everywhere around me at the moment.
I took care of this in advance by killing then burying the last corpse on Monday. One with whom I have an exact Pluto-Venus opposition. Pretty sure they won’t resurrect. ?
Thanks Elsa,
Keeping my phone switched off till Monday morning then both in case I am the bug and the corpse should try making contact.
😉
I had to roll my eyes when I saw the corpse thing because nothing interesting like that ever happens to me, even with gross guys I have dated and have no desire to ever see again. But today my cousin posted on Facebook that I guy I met very briefly 22 years ago when he was married (I guess he’s either divorced or widowed now, I didn’t ask) “wants to meet me” after seeing one of my Slovak YouTube vids. My cousin said, he’s mine for the taking. Well, I don’t know about that, but consider my eyes un-rolled! Nice job, Elsa, I would never have forecast this myself.
This also brings back PTSD Nightmares for me. My PTSD is quite well under control lately, so I was wondering why I’ve been days free with no known triggers, I would suddenly start having PTSD nightmares again (nightmares about the trauma as opposed to nightmares about… having no teeth). Thanks Elsa!
I ran into a corpse today, she is not a nice person in my book anyway. She glared at me. I thought good I hope it irked you that she saw me. 🙂
I terminated a friendship with an emotionally unbalanced female friend last week…or so I thought. Today, she attempted to contact me. Hello Tr Venus opposite Tr Pluto! And also, “hello” cell phone/e-mail blocking!
I’ve been playing corpse ping-pong over here.
No Corpses, but lots of strange marsy (scorpio types) on the train tonight. One guy was a warrior, tattoo, huge arms, leg gone (artificial leg) – convinced he was a former marine. One guy reading a book (I saw it) magazine – with breasty women- he stared at me about the last 10 minutes of the ride. Big Marsy Venus Pluto types on the train – but I did not get scared as I was heading home and I remembered you saying what kind of day it was, and I know I had Venus square it (my natal Venus is at 16 deg Aries). And yes -there was a shouting match at work. Geezz…glad I read you. All sorts of Venus Pluto stuff going on with my sister (I was there last weekend) and this new moon is on her rising degree. So, I hope things look up for her. Me? I know I need a boyfriend….one step at a time. At least I am willing to meet someone now.
I don’t always post – but I do try to keep up. Have a good weekend.
I went back to my old work place today to deal with residual paperwork. Just seeing the building made my stomach feel sick. Then when I went inside, the CORPSE was the first person I saw. I just want to vomit, what in god’s name made me ever attracted to this person?? Why did I cry over him for a year. It’s like I had amnesia, I have absolute no recollection of those feelings. How did I even have feelings? *shutters*
Ha! Here I thought I was going to avoid this, but tonight I got a FB friend request from my first boyfriend from 1982! Douchey then, but douchey now? I guess time will tell. No harm in accepting, since I can always unfriend him… And he’s far away in Florida, so yay.
When is this supposed to manifest?
Because today I think it happened to me. A friend of my sister that drove me back home from my father’s funeral 3 years ago stopped me on the street.
I was surprised and although I have nothing with her personally, the meeting felt odd because my father’s funeral triggered the final separation between me and my sister, we haven’t seen each other since.
Now I wonder if she is still in contact with my sister, what impression I made, what will she tell? Stupid things, I know.
Why couldn’t I have been stopped on the street by a hot guy instead?
In the past year left behind a shock value, pop up friend/enemy now recently another one in my world manifested that same”come hither” stuff. So far it’s been pretty easy to blow her off, see through the need for shock kicks. Those people seem really bored boring, kinda pathetic really. Bob Dylan wrote about those types.
I’ll save my login’ for the ones in my life I really care about not some fluffed up friendship.
I just received a facebook friend request from an old lover! I got all giddy and yelled, “A corpse!!” So, naturally, I had to come here to tell “everyone” about it. Venus/Pluto… I’m on to you!
Your timing couldn’t be better for the corpse alert ,
I’m surrounded, everywhere I go i bump into one,
It’s almost like people are so bored with themselves they want to seek you out and drag you back to how things were,,they haven’t learned,, the point is to go forwards not backwards,,
Trust your gut, for sure.
I think I’m a magnet 😉
Welcome, Truoneariespluto1sthouse. 🙂
Elita1111, I totally agree with you. 100%.
I have natal venus (8th-Aries) opposing Pluto. I consider myself a corpse. A quiet one hahahaha
The guy moved on years ago… I’m still stuck. Sent him an email 4 years ago with almost everything I wanted to say, he was super honest, direct. But.. it seems to me this was not enough to turn this page yet.
He has no idea he is that alive in my life. Maybe this is just the consequence of loneliness.
8th house has problems with letting go, right? I have sun, mars, venus and mercury in the 8th house aries. Sun, venus and mars opposing Pluto. Ha ha ha
I have venus square pluto haha exact.
lately though, I have come to the realisation that being stuck in these fantasies are a thing of convenience.
I mean, so much easier to like someone from afar, where you get to fantasise about this wonderful connection (that will happen once in a lifetime, of course), when you have time and the energy for it… than to actually put that same time and energy into a real person, who is available (but will mean you’ll have less energy for other things).
Interesting. Pluto is moving into opp with natal venus. ‘I’m your friend, not really.’ Makes sense. The sugar coat over the nasty has really got me reeling. There are people who are really good at that. I wound it down slowly with one person, you know just to see what it really was. And at the bottom of it, she was just really angry. I won’t do that again! It was not in my best interests to do it.
Am concentrating on the Neptune opp sun Jupiter at the moment. All right already. I surrender. Will just get done with this one in time for the pluto venus opp. Interesting years I suppose. Outside forces can be zany. Not a lot I can do about it. Even when I focus on keeping my crap together and doing what I am doing, bombs can drop.