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Is there a chance for a baby and family?

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Dear members, I am struggling through my life to have a baby and have my own family. All these things came pretty late in my life and I have been trying to do as much as I can to achieve this thing in life because I need that, more and more as time goes by.

I have had more than dosen failled natural and assisted attempts. Latest nowadays.

I am with my partner 11y now also turbulent relationship, he is much younger than me, don't think we will stay together if we don't have a child. I wouldn't want him not to have a chance to make it with some other woman that can give him family.

Please can someone tell me if there is any more hope for a child and a family?

 

 

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 Elsa
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Welcome, Antares. I'm very sorry you're in such a painful situation. I don't think anyone is going to want to tell you that you can't or won't have a child.  We don't really know. But in reality, you're nearing fifty years old. Your odds are going to be low and I think you experience has shown you this.

Again, I am very sorry. You have to come to terms with being childless, but if you choose this, you may actually find some relief.

As for your partner, you may be right about his leaving but you may also be wrong. 11 years is a long time to be with something. I bet he loves you. If having children were the main thing for him, you would not have to guess or worry about it - you'd know.

As painful as this might be, if it is to be your fate, try to accept it with as much grace as you can...because if it's not this, then it is something else you're meant to do.

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@elsa dear Elsa, thank you for your reply. I am painfully aware of everything. Just don't know how to accept life without a child. 

Please can you tell me is there a chance for some addoption, I am still not sure of if it would be acceptable for us but it remains the only way to fulfill need I have. 

I just feel large empriness and sorrow inside me and need to somehow do something with it. 

 What is period ahead for me?

Please if you would be so kind to take a look and give me your opinion, I will apprecaite it very much.

Thank you in advance

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Hi Antares!

Let me preface what I am about to say with this: I can't imagine how painful this situation is for you. Remember to focus on the fact that you want a child anyway and not just to keep your relationship intact. If you both want a child, there are ways to achieve this, either naturally or by surrogacy. 

I cannot help but notice Saturn in your 4th house, which is the ruler of your 11th. To me, this increases the chance of adoption. On the other hand, the ruler of your 5th house, the Moon, is in Virgo in the 6th house. This means that the possibility of having a natural child is not excluded, as the Moon is trine Venus. The semisquare between Moon and Uranus jumped out to me as an indicator of an unexpected pregnancy (my sister has her Moon, ruler of her 5th house, conj Uranus, and she got pregnant even though she was sure she wouldn't have a child in a million years). 

Sometimes the best things come when we stop fretting over them, so I think that if you enjoy your relationship with your partner, the other issues, even the child one, will be settled in time. Smile

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@canscocappy thank you very much for your insight dear canscocappy, I feel I can not give up, it is stronger as times go by, to do whatever I can to achieve it. I am an amateur in astrology, but have noticed uranus trining nat. moon and venus in this period, and following period tr.jup opp nat moon and later conj.nat asc. almost the same time tr.nep will conj.nat asc. I am looking for a straw to hold on to. Can these transits and others that are there point to something in this direction?

Also have been observing solar arcs, that will also have some importanst contact with natal planets, SA pl.conj.nat. sun, SA jup.conj.nat asc, SA merc.comes to aries point 0°capric., All will happen one after another in a 1.5y... I don't know how to interpret it in whole, any thougts of this will mean very much to me

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@antares I don't know about solar arcs, but the transits seem auspicious to me. 

I just noticed the argument with your partner. How are things between you now?

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@canscocappy dear thank you for your care. Still nothing. He hardly responded today to a message I have sent. I will let it rest. What else can I do. I didn't see this coming. Another complication. My private life has never been easy and calm. Either empty either turbulent. I believe it has much to do with having so much delays in trying for a baby... I thought we finally stepped into some calmer waters to give it time and try, if not too late (prevoisly I have had 2mscg, 1ivf and dosen iui that all failed, and few days ago2nd failed ivf)... And now this...

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Dear Antares, you were born 6 months before me (May '74) and so my chart shares the outer planet signatures - these are very cardinal energy focused due to Pluto and Uranus in Libra, and Saturn in Cancer. Also due to Chiron being in Aries at the time of birth. Because your Venus is in Capricorn and Mars in Aries it creates a cardinal cross in your chart. I am mentioning this because transmitting Chiron is currently in Aries (12*) and thus has been and will be triggering your cardinal planets. Currently Chiron is applying by square to your Venus in Capricorn. Chiron will retrograde in July at 12* Aries and move back to 8*. I suggest keeping track of his movements against your chart over time. As your cardinal cross affects your 1st, 7th, 10th, 4th houses, it is affecting the whole structure of your chart, your angles..your sense of self, your relationships, your inner world and how you relate to the world, i.e big impact! I have Venus in Aries and Chiron is sitting on my Venus right now, I can tell you that it drags up a lot of feelings of not being worthwhile or valuable from the past and it gets projected into one to one relationships. It's not necessarily the reality of the now moment but a chance to consider old wounding, it can really hurt and make it hard to believe you are lovable and push people away or look for proof! With Chiron in Aries by transit and natally, I find a lot is coming up about my inner child and its condition. With Pluto and Uranus in Libra and Saturn in Cancer a lot of the past ways of relating and being nurtured are quite painful. Your wish to have a child might be well examined alongside your wishes as a small child to be loved, seen and cared for. Sometimes we wish to have a chance to restore our inner child through bearing a child. This is true of life, nothing wrong in it, but being conscious of your own inner child, giving it your full attention now will help you traverse this period and discover the way through. 

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@sophiab thank you very much for your reply dear sophiab. This is the first period in my life that I have relationship that came to the level I feel peacefull about it and calm. The same way my partner feels. Although we are 11y together we gradually and slow came to it. So we both fell that if there was the right time to have a child it is now meaning last few years. That is my inner voice. 

Thank you for your insight I have never really looked much at chiron transits. More the outher planets. Also solar arcs draw my attention since I have examined in several situation from my life and my friends situations exact and multiple arcs in periods something important was happening. 

I haven't find much of material online that people are examining them, but it seems that can very accurate time impotrant events in life. 

 
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@antares You are very welcome. There are always so many factors involved with the cosmos and its affects on us and best to look from multiple angles. I don't know anything about solar arcs but I follow my progressed chart for significant changes. Like you say, follow your intuition/inner voice. Like me you have Neptune and the NN is Sagittarius and your NN is high up and visible in your chart near the Midheaven. It is a nice placement for getting in touch with the inner voice/higher self, although the Gemini SN can bring doubt and double thinking - especially with the transiting NN currently in Gemini! The natal outer planet situation in cardinal signs (especially Saturn square Pluto) with aspects to your personal planets does lead to a lot of resilience over time, so I am sure you will find a solution.

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@sophiab

It became a total mess. Please please help me. We had a terible fight yesterday. I have told him to take his things and leave. He did that. I didn´t want to talk about again. I am now falling apart. Please please I want to be with him and don"t know how to cope with some of his unpredicitble behaviour. He doesn´t want to talk any more nor come back.
Pleas will we ever be togethee again? Please help i am devasted.

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@antares I am very sorry to hear that. If you can bear it, I would suggest taking some time, as many things can happen naturally if we can just bear a bit of time passing. If you have been together 11 years then I would guess the liklihood of speaking and seeing each other again is high. But time and space may be needed so that emotions can settle and more balance returns. Please take care of yourself in the meantime.

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@sophiab I am completely out of myself. As this was a bad dream. Can't believe this roalcoster is happening. Everything seems so unreal. But is real. 

He said that I wanted this and once he took his things out he will never be back.

I said I was in affect as he was. He doesn't care.

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