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Have People Become Nasty and Just Rotten In General?
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Monday, May 4, 2020 - 4:13 pm
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I’m trying to think what has happened during the past 5 to 7 years. And what springs to mind is politics. We have become so attached, egoistically, to our political stances, that we hate anyone who doesn’t fall in line with it is an ‘enemy’ or an ‘jerk’! It happens to even the best of us if we’re in a bad mental state. But, if this is a person’s main personality most of the time, then a person turns into a bad person!

Five years ago? That’s when Trump announced that he was going to run for presidency (this was 2015). 7 years ago? People were just bouncing back from the 2008/2009 economic crisis. 

I’m sure, perhaps even unconsciously, all the negative news, like mass shootings, aren’t helping our mood (s) either.

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Monday, May 25, 2020 - 5:46 am
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I do not think people have changed. I think circumstances have revealed a darkness that was already there.

Some time in my teens and a bit later I was working in a place with a certain dynamic. 12 years later when Jupiter hit Scorpio again the same thing hit. But in the first instance the damage, SIGNIFICANT damage was done all behind the scenes so I didn’t figure it out before recently. In the second example it became a very big deal and I knew exactly what was going on; and not only me, but everyone in the workplace. Like the person who was behaving sadistically but behind the scenes was ‘unmasked’. –> I think one day we will find this is a common dynamic. That there are people that do tremendous damage to others from a sadistic intent but are simply never discovered.

It would not be a real judgement day though unless these people were exposed!

Importantly to the question. In the first one I was blissfully unaware these things were happening. In the second I was very very aware of these things happening. It was only after the second one that I researched information that might help me in this regard ref: narcissists. But I was strongly guided to this area the first time around, but did not understand why I would look at it in depth.

I think that is synonymous with what is going on in society. To give an overtly political example to explain what society is going through. In the UK there has been a massive grooming scandal where hundreds of thousands of British girl have been raped by Muslim gangs. This has been going on since the 1970’s. In the 2000’s no one had heard of it. If you were somehow acquainted with this you might find yourself in a situation where the girl escaped and the police returned the girl to the grooming gangs.

But in 2020 and for a few years now this is well known and there are a lot of people that are very passionate about it. In both cases there were girls being raped but in the second one we are all more aware of it so it LOOKS worse. But there is probably more informal support of these girls in this environment. In both cases though, it is what it is.

I don’t fret over the presence of bullies and negative people because the way I see it. Often you will get a room full of cowards, and if everything is going well they will be nice to everyone because… Why not? It’s easy right? It’s easier to be nicer to others usually than it is to be nasty.

In the example above no doubt the people in the second example would have preferred the situation in the first example where the bullying happened but no one was made to confront anything so it can be brushed off.

If you get a bully in the room though that choice might become different, there is significant pressure potentially against being nice so what do people do in that situation? I think it is somewhat instructive to determine what people “really are”.

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Monday, May 25, 2020 - 9:58 am
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I think there is less incentive to do personal growth work now that people feel embolden to be their awful selves by others on social media. Look at the twats that spew massive black plums of diesel, “look at me giving my neighbors lung cancer I’m awesome”.

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I have to be honest. I have a hard time answering questions like this. The statements that start with “people are.        “. I have a hard time conceiving humanity as a whole as anything other than a profound kind of soul or spirit or consciousness, and on that level, there’s different more archetypal principles at play. I don’t really see a group of personalities. 

And if Im talking about “people”, am I included in that? Who’s excluded? I guess, just to kind of clarify my last post, that there’s always been people who physically express hurts of the collective, not consciously of course. That comes out as rotten behavior. And where’s my responsibility? 

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Libra Noir, You have described a feeling I share as well.  Thank you for the articulation!  This uncomfortable crawl of the skin when the us them begins.  

It is good and useful to understand this viscerally that we are part of the whole.  Not always comfortable or comforting.  

is it our Libra signature that brings about this awareness?  Or Neptune/ Pisces and Uranus/Aquarius.

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Thank you, it’s a hard thing to express. Hmm. I don’t know about the astrology. I have a strong 11th house. And Libra is the fairness thing. I just think everyone should be (and ultimately is) judged by their own actions, their own behavior, their own spirit. I think its a spiritual discipline to live in this way, which I definitely have not mastered, but what I seek is pure perception. Which is really seeing God in everyone. Life challenges that endeavor but also supports it, because its got to be confronted. 

I also think you see what you look for.

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I wonder if it’s possible that social media has distorted or twisted our view of one another?

Cancel culture seems to have popped out of nowhere in the last couple of years. I’ve seen it on YouTube, over and over. Somebody digs up 10-year-old tweets, and broadcasts them to shame the person in question. The next thing you know, the drama channels are jumping on that dogpile with their receipts and their loud snappy judgments. Then the viewers are sounding off in the comments. Of course all this circus does is ruin one person’s reputation (In Jeffree Star’s case, it helps him sell new makeup palettes since scandal=$$$$). And it generates likes, subscribes and serious coinage for the drama channels. It’s disgusting and easy to get sucked into. 

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Tuesday, May 26, 2020 - 5:53 am
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Yeesh. How awful.

I imagine a time will come in the future where such people feel karma on a societal level and when that time comes we should remember they deserve it.

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The news these days is bad for my mental health. I think it unconsciously affects people, and then they take that negativity out on others. How happy can you be watching car accidents, shootings, division, and anger, for six hours?

I think there’s too much noise with everything these days. It makes people snippy!

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Thursday, May 28, 2020 - 6:30 pm
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Politics, Corona, and police violence. Phew, it’s too much!

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Thursday, May 28, 2020 - 8:39 pm
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Speaking of social media:

I asked a few of my friends about death penalties and such.

Some, if not many, were quick to say “YES!” emphatically, especially in regards to extreme situations.

Internet interactions I feel plays a role in the detached reactions and opinions regarding much these days.

Twitter is a great example. It’s a heap of loud opinions. Everyone KNOWS something. It’s quite gross, especially when they are wrong and worse, being supported.

But here I am touting what is wrong/right. And so I shall.

Many who say “YES” to death penalties haven’t experienced killing another. These opinion are made with one leaning backwards, as if to avoid touching or looking at the reality, but their mouths are still moving.

So, people have become nasty or rotten, and are in some ways immature or reactionary about it all.

It does help reinforce holding my internal place of calm and realize everyone is working through their own dilemmas. Time, space, and unconditional love (tough love too), is suggested, no?

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There have always been nasty people out there, It’s just more obvious now because people have social media and share all their nasty thoughts. Before, it was mostly just kept within a small circle. I do still think there are good and kind people out there though. I know a lot of them and I’d hope some of you do too. 

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Thursday, June 4, 2020 - 2:51 pm
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Same sentiments here.

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I think you’re right about some of the effects of the depersonalizing nature of the internet, but I don’t agree that people have become worse in general – look at history overall, especially histories of daily life.

Bitter political division isn’t new. For example, there have been literal fistfights in the US cabinet and some candidates have had their houses demolished by people. Cruelty and uncaring isn’t new either. People used to watch bears being torn apart by dogs as entertainment.

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It’s funny I was thinking recently people seem kinder. I don’t use social media though so just thinking about the community I live in.

There have been unexpected and touching offers of help since Covid 19 crisis. People have phoned to check how are my family are. It felt like people really care. Maybe I’m just living in a nice area.

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