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Do People Even Want To Get Along?

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 Elsa
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I am very interested in seeing life improve, for everyone, everywhere.  I think that getting along with others is key to this goal.

My personal view on this, traces all the way back to day one of my life. It's very simple.  If I want to bring my neighbor some cookies or loan them some sugar or an egg, their color or their religion is not going to be a factor.  I also don't care who they voted for or even if they voted. In fact, the idea of thinking of this at all seems insane.

I also would not consider the medical decisions they may or did not make or whatever - none of this warrants even a millisecond of consideration in my mind.

Now I am only speaking for myself. I feel we've been divided along these various lines and I wonder if there is any chance the veil might drop so that people can see that what divides us is insanely superficial.

To illustrate...

I voted X, you voted, Y.

Do we both have arms and legs and hearts that beat?
What about family and friends who we love?
What about pets?  Are you a dog lover? Me too!
We both like coffee and hate the price of eggs?
I have a sister and so do you? Wow!
Do you need help from time to time or someone to talk to?
Do you like to go to lunch or dinner or maybe go the bar or a ball game?
Are you trying to improve your help?

I could go on and on. Most REAL people readily agree with these, and 100 trillion other things. Should we not be able to get along?

I'm sorry but I don't think this is a crazy challenging thing. Do people just need to have a bad guy? What is this, in your mind?

 

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In the old days, politics and religion were off limits for social conversation.

Many people are increasingly angry and apprehensive about present and future. More distrustful than ever.  Frayed nerves, depression, anxiety.  When triggered by someone who appears to be part of the group that Forced, Imposed, Betrayed, Deceived, etc., the Fight or Flight response kicks in.

Come together over common bonds but maintain strong boundaries forbidding off limits subjects.

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 Elsa
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@warped I thought of this too, sort of. More along the lines of we knew less about our neighbors?

But really, people post nostalgic pictures of themselves riding bikes with neighborhood kids. That can't happen now because everyone hates every other person, if not every person!

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I agree with Elsa and I agree with Warped.

I have a 7th house stellium in Gemini. I'd love to get along and I need more allies. I also have Scorpio rising with Mars, Saturn, and Pluto in the 12th, i.e. not everyone wants to be my friend to put it lightly. It appears our culture has become mentally and emotionally ill, if it can be described that way. I tread carefully and try to keep it light.

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I am working hard at fixing the things I do that prevent me from getting along. It's pretty easy for me to avoid, tune out, isolate myself (lower left quardrant emphasis house 1-4) and that's no longer good what I want. It's lonely and I want to get along with more people. 

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 Elsa
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If a person or entity or organization or whatever, is working to turn you against your neighbor / fellow man, it's a very good indication they don't have your best interest at heart.

The shot thing is a good example. I did not get it, either did my husband but every single person in both our families did.

It just goes to show you, push someone off the cliff... then realize you're attached!  Might be good to realize this up front! 🙃  

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@elsa 

That's why we should all carry a pocket knife! 

:::ducks::: 🙃

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Personally one of the most horrifying things about that whole thing is that I was always told people pull together against an outside threat against all. That didn't happen. Makes me wonder what will happen with real existential threat, ie World War III,not to mention Alien invasion, Zombie Apocoalypse.

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@jana It may not be as bad as you fear.  Social media makes it look bad but if you actually talk to real people, most of them are very interested in getting along.  I know this firsthand because I talk to so many different people, all over the world. They may have very strong opinions about various things; it does not mean they want people who disagree with them to be harmed.

It may be that this is like looting. It can be all over the news; but it's only a small percentage of people, willing to break and smash and burn a person's home or business. Most people are going to opt out of that kind of thing.

We suffer in that there are no role models on tv anymore. Not that this is where a person should look for instruction but it is where people look for instruction. 

I also think it's hard to do right now... be nice. Because people are so (justifiably) angry.

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@jana 

People were divided long before this whole thing, and could divide further in a WW3 scenario.  

World famine?  Ditto.

Aliens and Zombies?  Popcorn, please!

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@jana 

Also, it wasn't entirely an outside threat.

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