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Elsa
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It seems we value charisma over integrity. Do you agree?

If you consider this, what comes to your mind?

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jana
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If you choose charisma over integrity you are choosing feeling good over potentially feeling bad and learning something. Charisma is charming and integrity asks something of you.

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Agreed, Elsa. And agreed Jana, and not only that, you are basically refusing to be part of the solution rather than the problem (to obliquely quote Bob Dylan).

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I agree and I think it goes back to the lizard brain/animal instincts. This gets me to thinking about politics.

When an animal sees another animal bare its fangs, it feels threatened. Politicians can be good at hiding their fangs with a charismatic facade and keep the people from feeling threatened. It doesn’t mean they have integrity but people would just rather not see fangs. 

Some politicians are straight-shooters and forget about charismatic facade and bare their fangs from time to time, but they could have a great deal of integrity.

Oh and some politicians, of course, have neither charisma nor integrity! I’ve been seeing a lot of charisma and integrity down the toilet in the last year or was never there to begin with. 

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I feel like charisma is seductive but what magnetises you is that something is being hidden, which creates an undertow. It's based on denial and seeking relief through distraction via focus on externality. With integrity it relies on the person having faced what was hidden inside and surviving the discomfort. Once the person faces enough of the hidden, integrates it to become more 'whole', the wholeness itself becomes magnetic to those who are drawn in that direction. We currently live in a trauma based paradigm so hidden has been the main energy dynamic, but it can quickly shift to another dynamic, unfortunately that would involve experiencing the hidden suffering and grief and all the attendant emotions. So, most people, unless forced by circumstance opt for the easier path. 

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So many thoughts about this, but short answer is I definitely don’t. It’s actually a quality that makes me look more closely at people, scrutinize them longer. It immediately puts me on guard.

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