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CrisLondon
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Hey Merc91,

I have Moon in the 8th and I did read in various sources at one point (books and good online content) that this meant having had experiences of loss/betrayal/abandonment.

Yes in my experience.

What I see in your chart around challenges (to eventually learn from) in relationships is:

- Venus square Pluto

- South node in the 7th house

- first house planets (and Ascendant with a wider orb) squared by Mars

- to an extent moon trine pluto too

With your Moon in Pisces you are way way way more sensitive than your Cap ascendant leads people initially to think/assume of you.

You have the moon trine pluto so you have huge emotional reserves and the ability to grow a lot and move on from painful and difficult experiences so these challenges you are experiencing will get better as you get older, I think.

You also have North Node in the first house - it's important that you do things more in line with your wishes and aspirations/dreams rather than overly think of or consider other people's wishes and aspirations/dreams.

The North Node first house needs to focus more on the My pronoun and less on the You/others pronoun. To be a pioneer, be different is the key. This might be a reason (I don't know, just speculating here) why some people try to interfere with your life. It's Ok, you're meant to do things differently.

There is intensity in your chart around relationships with fixed venus squared by pluto and 8th house planets. And there's sensitivity with pisces moon. These characteristics and realities will always be there.

This transit of Saturn to your ascendant and first house (and briefly the transit of Saturn conjunct your natal Saturn, like you say Saturn return, this spring and then again late 2020 and early 2021) will help you solidify and concretise your external presentation and behaviour and will help you form new priorities that will have a ripple effects on the other angular houses (4, 7, 10.)

Saturn lets go of things/people we don't need in painful ways (neptune does it in confusing, disorientating and disillusing ways; pluto does it intensely and often permanently) yet it's a sobering moment and much needed.

Learning to navigate life with the intensity within you and the intensity that this will attract will be an interesting (not always fun) and empowering lesson, I think.

Do you think you have a better knack now for recognising true kindness and goodwill in others and recognising shaky motives or thinking patterns in others after your life experiences?

I still get blindsided every now and then yet it's gotten much much much better as years went by. I have moon trine pluto and this aspect really is a lifeline - it'll serve you well too.

Good luck!

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redbird
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@cris

Thank you so much, you are brilliant & I love reading your threads, thoughts, & interpretations. They are powerful & helpful. 

I am trying to make something out of Merc91’s  chart. I can’t. - My intentions are always good. I just can’t even understand the chart- especially with it being in it’s native symbols. I cheat with mine & use the Astro.com, which tells me what planets are where. 
When I offered to look at Merc91 - I wasn’t expecting that! I should never offer to kook at anyone else’s chart. 
You are really a kind soul. It made me glad to know you stepped in & took a look. Your words about empowering are so true. I hope Merc91 finds love & support here at this community. & knows there are ppl that do care. 

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CrisLondon
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@redbird

Just take it easy, no need to put yourself down - you're a student and students fumble and experiment.

I'll be an eternal student of astrology. Always learning and re-learning.

You'll have to try and read as many charts as you can (luckily my friends and family have let me for decades monitor their charts + I look at celebrities charts for specific personal research projects.) Look at a bunch of charts for a while and see what jumps out to you from them, see what you notice first on the charts.

Different people read the chart differently (like use different techniques and approaches) and then they also add their intuition in the reading exercise.

In time, you'll feel more adventurous with astrology and you'll get good at certain things. It can be frustrating, the learning, so know that too.

Thanks for your comments 🙂

As this is Merc91's post trying to hear about 8th house experiences and enemies, I'll leave my post at this.

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CrisLondon
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Gosh, I forgot I also have Mars in the 8th 🙄 I have some blinkers/weak spots to explore around my own Mars right now especially since transiting North Node made a conjunction to my Mars this summer.

Mars in the 8th - lots of hostile experiences, yes. It got much better with age yet clearly I'm having to learn more (linked to the above paragraph.)

Hehe, seems like I'd like to forget about my 8th house Mars at the moment - denial!

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I have Neptune and Venus in Scorpio in the 8th house. 

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