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 Elsa
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Also keep in mind, all v side effects / danger may also be fabricated... To terrorize you.

Think people were afraid of a virus? What about scaring them, telling them they are going to drop dead?

I would not necessarily buy it.

 

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@elsa I’ve thought about that too. I guess it’s like either way, we’re supposed to be terrified. There’s no balance.

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@libra-noir this was actually my point in posting this thread.  I don't think it's smart to expect a liar to tell you the truth. You should expect new lies though.

We have all been hijacked. These and so many other lies have penetrated all us to the bone. There are a lot of ways to see this but what comes to mind this morning is late stage alcoholism. There comes a point where a person is going to stick with their program, till death do they part. I think there's a large number of people who choose this, consciously or otherwise.

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@elsa It seems that most people who take the shot will be ok and I also think most people that got covid were ok too. The fact that the symptoms of covid and the side effects of the shot are virtually the same? And of course now that people already took it, it’s a great time to tell them its gonna kill them lol. I didn’t not take the shot because I was scares of it, but because it didn’t make sense for me. I don’t trust those entities but I also know their most powerful weapon is fear. It also didn’t make sense for me to be scared of covid. 

Can you clarify what you mean by the reference to late stage alcoholism? 

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@libra-noir I mean a person knows they have a problem but they want to keep it.

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@elsa Oh ya. To me, it reminds me a lot of codependent relationships (there seems to be an addictive quality to them).

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@elsa I would see that as an entrenched ego identity, where there is no possibility of moving away from identifications formed via the external world, rather than from contact with the internal core self. Even if such identifications are ultimately destructive to the individual in question, the fear of losing the false (but dominant) identity is greater than accepting change. There is no ability to trust, only to control. In some, it is impossible to give up this identity, because the core self has atrophied beyond possible resuscitation.

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@elsa 

And the results of that terror -- fatalistic resignation, hopelessness, paranoia, depression, escapism, hedonism, loss of faith, psychosis, drugs, suicide, rage, violence.  What a set up!

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Re: London Olympics,  I watched it live and as I recall the theme was a tribute to the NIH (their government health service) and incorporating local history of wars (injuries) and the plague and fires in GB.  That being said it was weird and very dark.

I have always been one to stay away as much as possible from our current medical establishment.  Would suggest that anyone interested may investigate and try for themselves homeopathic remedies.  Try a search for Joette and homeopathy, very much available information there as well as many other sites.  Used correctly, homeopathy has worked for my family.

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@myrna Thank you for explaining that!

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@myrna 

I finally took the time to look up Joette -- wow, what an excellent resource!

I've always meant to find a local homeopath or naturopath, just in case needed.  I just found several national directories for each.  Thank you for reminding me!

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@warped her site is great.  I’ve been treating all acute illnesses for myself and family for a while with great success.

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Another death. 

It was recently reported that iconic actress Lisa Loring has passed away.

Lisa passed away on Saturday after experiencing a major stroke brought on by her high blood pressure and smoking habits. She was a Hollywood fixture for decades, but her performance as Wednesday Addams in the groundbreaking 1960s series The Addams Family is what made her a household name.

 

She was 64. It seems like almost every day I wake up to a new one. 

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@sirena-oceana That's strange, because I couldn't avoid seeing the great wave of interest in the last few months about the "Wednesday dance" by Ortega.

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@sirena-oceana Look at her birth chart. 27-degree Cap moon. She is a 26-degree Aquarius Sun. Interesting. You know where the transits are now. Where is Saturn... 26 Aqua...Pluto is at 28 Cap. I don't remember the rest....

 

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wow i was just posting about the addams family in the music topic. how uncanny. And i am late to seeing this >_<  

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Oh my god @soup 

just had the ultrasound of my heart. The ultrasound tech said she thinks it’s pericarditis. I just knew it!

She said she had it after co vid as well and that it’s really common. Several of her girlfriends had it. 

She said they gave her meds for gout for it and it cleared up in a couple of months.

Will have the results in a couple of days. 

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Btw, she said she will never get another shot. She even said she thinks the shots cause it. Crazy.

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@sirena-oceana God. I'm so sorry.

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@sirena-oceana OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! First, thank you for getting back to me and thank GOD you went to the doctor. Pericarditis! After we spoke here I went in and did some hard reading. The list of things that linger after having the vi r us is very long. Then there is the long co v id. This is real too. People are not getting over it and are suffering a year later. 

I found a vid from a doc who doesn't swing one way or the other. He is not paid to talk about it, he is just giving facts as he knows them. I will share the vid. He says without a doubt Co v id is a vascular vi r us ...

I will find it and share. Worried about you more now sweet girl. God darn it.... grrrrrrrrrrrr this pos sickness. I know you will but read everything you can. xo 

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@soup

thank you but no need to worry about me. I’m just glad I I got the confirmation I needed and now I can keep focusing on what I have been focusing on, which is reducing inflammation. I think eliminating carbs and sugar has helped! It has even helped my husband with his problem which I won’t say what it is, because it’s his private business, but he said it’s gotten better. He doesn’t really understand why I have eliminated most carbs from our diet—he just eats what I give him lol. But out of the blue, today he said “I think my ——are getting better” 

 

I swear carbs (bread, flour, crackers, cake, cookies) and sugar are slow killers!!!

 

 

 

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@sirena-oceana 

I hope you have a  swift recovery.

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@jana thank you!

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@sirena-oceana 

I hope you recover quickly and completely! 🙏

Did you have CV before or after the Vx?  

Many cultures have relied heavily on carbs historically.  But today we have heavily refined grains plus the added hazards of Glyphosate residue in nearly all non-organic crops, and the replacement of animal fats with PUFAs, high Omega 6 refined seed oils, which have been shown to contribute to many issues including obesity, hormone irregularities, metabolic syndrome, and yes, inflammation.

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@warped thank you. Yes, when I say carbs, I’m more referring to the refined variety. I think some carbs are good, especially carbs from veggies and legumes, brown rice, oats… whole grains in moderation are most likely okay too. There’s a balance though. I try not to eat more than 100 carbs a day. Regarding omega 6–yesss. Some of these things seem intuitive to me. it never seemed right to consume a ton of omega 6’s. Always questioned seed oils for sure. 

I got cv after vx.. 10 or 11 months afterwards. 

My astrology of course ties in with all this. I swear some things are meant to happen. Neptune has been going back and forth over my Sun/Moon for the past year since this started. Neptune is said to rule over mysterious diseases, misdiagnosis, infection, inflammation… and of course the Sun rules the heart. 

It’s interesting that I find this out the day before the full moon exactly conjunct my Asc. The Sun rules my Asc of course. Time to wrap this up I guess. 

I wonder what the heck Neptune is going to do when it conjuncts my Aries Mars 🤨

 

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Oops that would be 100 *grams* of carbs. I don’t bother with *net* carbs.

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@sirena-oceana 

omg speedy recovery and that is a good information you shared with us. I have family members that went to the doctors that have been feeling really similar, after covid too.

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@elisa thanks hon ☺️

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Is anyone concerned about infertility?  This is another side effect I've heard mentioned since the beginning. Could it be true?

I would not take something like this seriously, if it were not so clear, ptb do not want people having babies.  The soc engineering on this has gone on for decades so I just can't put it past them.

We know they gave people (black men) syphilis and many think they gave people AIDS.  It's not farfetched.

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@elsa it wouldn't surprise me. I've heard of a lot of women with absent /messed up periods after having a shot.

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@plutolover it wouldn’t surprise me either.

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@elsa 

Let's not forget sudden severe cancer.  My beautiful friend who has saved so many lives, human and animal, suddenly diagnosed with a brain mass, "the worst kind."  She has survived surgery, will begin treatment soon, God willing.. 🙏

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Update: I’ve been taking an NSAID (Aleve) for the past couple of days round the clock, along with the Pectasol-C soup recommended (2x a day), and today I have no aches, twinges, or palpitations. 

I took NSAIDs before for this, and it would always return. I didn’t do it consistently though, so I don’t know if it’s the Aleve or the Pectasol, or maybe the combo of the two, but it’s working. I think the Pectasol-C does help. This morning when I woke up, I had no stiffness in any joints and my chest felt normal. Still waiting on results from the ultrasound.

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@sirena-oceana I am over the moon ... so grateful it is helping you. I searched high and low for something that would lesson inflammation. It works fast. People take it for anywhere between 30-90 days then take 30 off. I take a low dose (one scoop a day all the time) I love it. It has nothing in it that can hurt you xo

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@soup right? I can’t believe something so simple can help like that. I need to do more research on it though, to find out how it works. Just took your word!

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@sirena-oceana when you get time do read about it.  So interesting!

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@soup 

I just read several articles including NIH and PubMed saying it's an effective supplement for preventing and fighting cancer.  We should probably all take it.  I just sent the info to my friend who will be starting treatment for brain cancer, for her doctors approval.  Thank you for sharing this with us all. ❤

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@warped You're Welcome!!!

I love that you are reading about it. Many studies have been done. I really read about it before I tried it as I had tried so many other natural things (some worked, some did not) (Remember when I went to herb school in 2018?) I am into anything that is not medicine first. I agree we should all be taking it. It clears arteries, used for Cancer patients or as a preventative... the list is long. It seems expensive but once you are taking just a scoop in the morning with water on an empty stomach so it can get in there and do its job, it's not expensive. 

PS... I am so sorry about your friend xo 

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@warped yes, I’m going to be suggesting this for a lot of people too, especially older people or people with health concerns. 

The powder does clump together and sticks to the glass. I bought a frother, as soup suggested, but Amazon is taking forever to ship it, so I have been putting it in a small mason jar and shaking it. That works too. 
It tastes like flour to me. It’s not really a bad taste to me but some people may think so.

 

thank you so much soup for sharing. If you know of anything else, pls let us know. 
I started taking vitamin D as well. My husband had been taking it for years and I wonder if that’s why he never gets sick. He never caught the vi rus

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