@LN summed it up perfectly in that first sentence.
I couldn't stop laughing just now when I heard that a group of "regretters" are blaming the un-v'd for "not warning strongly enough against it!" This after all the abuse and discrimination! But the Regretters are "willing to forgive because we're nice people." The nerve!
The Project Veritas video yesterday exposing Pf!z€r's "Directed Evolution" creating new and deadlier virals for which they've already created a Vx has already been viewed by 40 million on Twitter plus who knows how many more elsewhere. How much longer can anyone keep trying to not know?!
I couldn't stop laughing just now when I heard that a group of "regretters" are blaming the un-v'd for "not warning strongly enough against it!" This after all the abuse and discrimination! But the Regretters are "willing to forgive because we're nice people." The nerve!
This is the exact narrative that prompted me to start this thread. We're in a situation where anything can be pushed out there and replicated; a high percentage of people take it as truth. I think we need to be a lot more discerning.
It's the same story over and over; divide and conquer.
Needs to be class action prompting high court response for compensation as it was Never justified to require an experimental j-b, regardless of outcome, including military.
@warped I saw that same story about the “regretters” and learned that it was satire. It was really hard to tell but it is. It wasn’t even the Bee or The Onion. Satire is great but anymore, out world is upside down.
I found sources in May 2021 who have never wavered in their understanding, messaging, and warning but who have been silenced and smeared in the mainstream communication channels. They are the ones with everything to lose, not the ones profiting.
Mistakes were made, either on purpose or not and I think the answer is to follow the money.
I think they cause inflammation in varying degrees, especially in people who are susceptible. Inflammation is known to cause just about every disease imaginable. May be chronic/life-long for some, depending on the person. The same thing could be said for the vi rus itself. For some—especially really old— it probably wasn’t a bad idea. But imo, most didn’t need it.
I don’t blame anyone. It was required for my job. Still my choice. My husband opted out. He never caught the virus. We’re the same blood type—A+.
His family wouldn’t let him visit them. It was pretty messed up. Now they’re changing their mind and saying he can.
I caught one of the variants after getting the shot. He never caught it. We’re the same age, same blood type, same lifestyle, both healthy. I don’t think it was meant to protect us.
@sirena-oceana Well we are told that it is not 100 percent. It was supposed to keep us out of the ICU. That is what we were told.
See, again, I don't know. I hope you weren't too sick. I know a lot of people that caught a mild version after vx. That is what they say. I can't count the times I have been tested... good grief. I have never come up positive. I could have sworn I had it before we knew what it was.. but I really cannot swear on this. I have no proof.
What I can say for certain and without a doubt that it is real because it killed my mother. This happened. It just happened in October.
Remember when Dr. F said we would not have to wear a mask. Then we were. Then we shut down. Then in May that same year the CDC said we didn't have to wear them again. Then they said people were stacked in cooler trucks. I was so confused. I tried to be of the mindset... this is new they don't know. Then I thought ... this is some real horse crap.
People took sides. The social media folks all fighting. I refused to go back to FB and only used insta for the kids and DM. So many people fighting when we are all in it together. This has happened to all of us. Even people that didn't vx. They are paying for it just like the vx'd. It has hit us all. If we are all being played, then we are all in the game. I hate it. Like E keeps saying divide and conquer.
@soup sorry, I missed this one. Yeah, so I started getting chest pains a few weeks after actual virus, NOT the vaccine. I got the virus about 11 months after 2nd dose. I got Moderna.
I had non-stop chest pain for 6 weeks before I went to the ER. (Never had heart burn and knew that couldn’t be it anyway as sometimes I would get tightness in my neck veins (my carotids?) and they would pop out and you could see them. Lots of palpitations and twitches in and around my heart too.
So anyway, I went to the ER and they took x ray, did EKG. The ER doc said he though I had gastritis as the scans looked normal. Even though on the ECG it said “possible left atrial enlargement “
So the doc sent me on my way….I got a huge medical bill because I didn’t have insurance at that time. They called and said I needed to go see a cardiologist for a more comprehensive eval. Even though they just billed me for $6000+.
I intended to do that but the symptoms disappeared a week or so later. And they stayed gone for 4 months. When I started new job, it returned. I got insurance. Went to doctor and ECG again said “possible Left Atrial Enlargement”
They wanted me to go back and get an an ultrasound before they gave me a referral for a cardiologist. I have an HMO plan. I have yet to go back. Been busy. But I will call them tomorrow and schedule it. Just sucks. Would rather just get the damn referral instead of having to go back to the doctor and THEN having to go to a cardiologist. Who has time for all this? And even if they do find mild myocarditis or one of the heart-itis’s they just tell you to take some ibuprofen and rest. Only prescribe something if you have heart failure.
I wrote all this in case it helps someone. Who knows someone else reading here may have had some similar symptoms and were curious about the timelines and such.
This is really common though. Check Reddit.
Inflammation from the v rus and the v x is real.
To add: I wasn’t that sick with it. It was a typical cold—runny nose, watery eyes.
Also wanted to add that any virus or infection can cause inflammation, but especially new viruses.
@sirena-oceana I understand. Same for the people I know that had CV. Same for the people I know that actually died from it. I lost several people I went to high school with. I watched a friend that was a nurse pass. It took two months. This person suffered so badly.
I have questioned so much. But I also know it's real. After having it people have different things. But we both know inflammation is the root cause.
Things I have seen and heard after CV. And this is NOT the vx.. this is the actual CV. Rashes. Change in eyesight. Headaches. Kidney and bladder issues. Swollen lymph nodes that don't go down. Heart issues. Lung issues. Varicose veins they never had before. Hair loss. Loss of smell and taste. Joint pain. The big one is back pain. This is a very big complaint. Of course, shortness of breath that lasts. Another biggie is Gout. Painful swelling in the legs, ankles and feet. Some people are now diabetic that never were before. New case of Diabetes 1. Bowel issues.... including hemorrhoids and all that this implies. I have one kid with some serious kidney disfunction right now. He just got out of the hospital. Bright red blood. Scared the freaking life out of me. When your flipping kidneys are bleeding, this is frightening. This is my KID. This one would never think of taking a vx. He got the v ir us.
One of my very good friends is an epidemiologist. I believe her. She is highly educated. Not from YouTube. I take her seriously.
I am glad you shared that. It's very brave and the truth. My mother thought it was mild too. Started like a cold. Turned fast. Of course, she was in her 80s. It shut down all her internal organs. One at a time. It was like a house fire. Her lungs of course but also her liver and kidneys. She said the back pain was excruciating. So much so she was not thinking of her heart and lungs. Which of course took the hit too. When it went... wildfire on her... it went fast. First it was like a cold. Then turned into an internal shut down. She stood no chance. My mother died in excruciating pain and gasping for a breath on 02.
I have listened to all the ... oh it's only killing really old people that are due to die anyway. Really? My mother's life is nothing? Oh, it's killing really fat people. Really? Are people who are carrying extra weight are worth nothing, so it doesn't matter if they die? It's killing people with diabetes. You know... some people are diagnosed with diabetes as children. Type 1 is common and not their fault. Type 2.. def genetics play a role.
It's only killing people with high blood pressure. Well genetics play a role in whether you have HBP or not even if you are a runner or an Olympic athlete. Their life doesn't matter? See many of these things are not their fault. Just because a person is carrying extra weight ... doesn't mean they are eating large troughs of food. Imbalance in hormones. Medications. Maybe they are immobile because of a broken bone or arthritis. You find it hard to lose weight if you cannot walk! Should they be discounted too? All I hear, when I hear this, is... I am better than everyone else. Well guess what. One moment can change everything in your life. One split second.
So, I get pissed. I get pissed at the flippant attitudes. I get pissed at the selfish remarks. I get pissed at the know it all's. Because you know what... none of us know it all with this. Many of the people that have ran their mouths publicly are now dead. From what? The CV. So, one person may get flu like symptoms. Another with no preexisting conditions can start to experience what you are.
I am very sorry to read this sirena. In fact, it makes me sad and angry. You are so young.
Please get that PectasolC... please. It will not hurt you. It doesn't mess with medications one may have to take. It's citrus pectin. I know a lady that swears it busted up a small tumor. It does clear arteries. It does help lower scores in men with prostate cancer.... long list of good things. People who have had cancer are told to take it by their medical docs to stop metastases and reoccurrence. Really good for anyone with high cholesterol and people with clogged arteries. It has nothing in it to hurt the human body. I can't claim it saves lives.. but it is good stuff. The main reason people take it is to counteract inflammation. This is good for anyone. Inflammation kills. Slowly.
Ask to have a blood panel and check your C-reactive protein levels checked. The number should be low. You can google the number that is healthy. If it's high this indicates inflammation. Won't tell you where, but it helps to know. Last mine was checked it was 4.5. Not that high considering my age. A certain amount of inflammation is normal when people start to age. Yours should be low. Girlfriend had CV and her C-reactive protein number was off the charts...but then again, the common cold can cause that number to rise. It will be higher for a person carrying extra weight, a smoker, someone with an infection... and so on.
I know I am writing a book here and I don't mean to. I am as confused as the next person. As humans here we are. I look at it like this. We can bitch and blame everyone including the baby Jesus. We can pretend we know the Rothchilds are trying to kill us all... in reality all we can really do is try to figure out how to clean it up because it's here and it's here for everyone. None of us are getting out of here alive. Not a one of us. So, we have to help each other. We have to.
I hope you call the doctor tomorrow and have some tests done. I know you work in healthcare, and I know you know all this but please look into it soon. The heart is nothing to mess with. Maybe they will find more. There could be something you don't know yet or it will put your mind at ease (and now mine too!!!) Please make a purchase at Amazon and get the PectasolC but of course read all about it first. Even the reviews. By a 10-dollar frother so it will mix for you. Take it with water on an empty stomach in the morning. Just one scoop so it will last longer. Take the whole container then take a month off.
Whoever caused this... it's done. That is fact. Accidentally? On purpose? To kill the whole world? To kill off the elderly so they don't have to pay SS bennies? I really don't give a rat's asshole because it's too late now. It's here. It has been here. Doesn't matter whether I would vx again or not. It's still here. And people are still dying from it. One thing I do know... it is NOT a hoax. I don't blame the President. He didn't invent it. He didn't know what to do either and he also got it. I didn't like him much, or at all, (I literally cannot stand any of them. They DO NOT care about us. None of them care) but he did not cause it and he was not to blame for it.
I hope if anyone else got it and has had issues they share the information and anything that may have helped them overcome the illness. I don't care if bee shit is the cure. If it worked for someone, I would like to entertain the information. My kid is sick. I'm pissed about it. So, there... I have said what I have to say. Powers that be never met a Scorpio screaming about a sick kid I can tell you that. My ass will be on the channel 4 news with a red face and a pitchfork. I will die fighting back. Even with the newfound swelling in my right ankle. 😳 I am pretty bitter right now about my son with the bleeding kidneys. Okay, 🤬 beyond bitter. But I have the good sense not to type anymore about that.
Let me know what you find out from the doc girly....
@soup I’m like you— who gives a flying rats butt whether it was an accident or on purpose 😂. It’s here, and all we can do is try to figure out how to heal from it.
I do question whether or not the v x weakened my immune system somehow, but I will never know the answer to that. Who knows if I would have ended up worse off if I’d never v xed as well. All we can do is work with what we know and we know it causes inflammation. NOT for everybody…. But it does cause inflammation.
I got the PectaSol-C. I think it’s coming tomorrow. I’ll take it, why not? I’m doing better now for the most part. The inflammation around my heart is very slight now and when it comes it doesn’t long. It’s not constant—it’s more when I’m very stressed or eat something bad—like a whole pint of ice cream or something.
I also think wheat exacerbates it.
the one good thing that came out of this like Sophia was saying is it made us more health conscious. I ordered the book “grain brain” recently—it’s about how consuming wheat contributes to Alzheimer’s and dementia. Check that one out.
Anyways, thank you for being open and sharing what you have here. I truly appreciate it. And who knows who else is reading and needs this info. ❤️❤️
@sirena-oceana Sending you a whole heart full of love!!!!! I cannot stand to hear of people being sick, hurt... you're a smart cookie to be looking for a solution! Hugs!!!!!!
Hugs to you back! I’ve just seen a lot with my job. And I’ve seen patterns. What we put in our bodies matters a whole lot more than people think. There are things we’re told are good for us but aren’t. We need to pay attention to how we feel after we consume something. Everyone’s different though. Some people can tolerate more carbs than others. Some people do well with beans, others not so much. If you have any sort of disease starting or notice any sort of inflammation, you should consider what you’re eating.
Personally, I think the Mediterranean diet is good. Keto *can* be good. Look at what the diets are like among the healthiest and longest living groups of people. What do they have in common?
Anything is reversible if you catch it early enough.
- @sirena-oceana You're right! Food is either medicine or a slow death sentence. It's amazing that you're looking for solutions now, while you're young! Oh lord do I love ice cream but if I eat it the next 48 hours are grueling 😳 I love chocolate too... so I eat just bits and have dark chocolate... the sugar beats me up. When you eliminate and slowly add back you can feel it working you. I have to watch bread, dairy too many carbs.... I've been trying to make interesting salads lol .. adding cranberries blueberries apples.... but you know... I see chicken and dumplings and have a hard time walking past the memory of my grandmother's cooking. I cheat! The human body is a remarkable healing machine with the right food
@sirena-oceana I agree with everything you said.
CV killed my mother. Someone who already had inflammation. She followed the realm of politics that thought they were bad, so refused Vx for this reason. It took her pretty fast. The actual illness shut down her kidneys and other vital organs along with causing extreme lung damage. She probably had another 5 years left at least (of course that is NOT what the astrology said. I could track it like a math test, and it was exact) So if not CV ... what? Something was going to happen. (When Pluto went direct my mother immediately passed)
I was vx'd and boosted. I felt I needed to protect my parents as I was going home a lot. I think we were all concerned, probably more for others than ourselves. I couldn't imagine being the reason one of my parents got sick. When my stepfather was going though Chemo, we were not allowed around him with even a sniffle.
To have the surgery I had to have them as my doctor insisted too. He was not going to budge although I probably could have called him to the carpet on it or found another doc. I was way too far into needing the surgery to drop off and find another doc. At surg date I was tested 3 days prior and the day of. They would not let you enter a hospital at the time otherwise. And I desperately needed the surgery. At that time there were armed police at the entrance and exits of the hospital I went to. You were not getting in. Period.
I know for a fact the vx causes inflammation. I have watched it manifest in both me and my husband. Worse for him. He is on shot 5 and believes fully in them and will continue on every 6 months. Nothing will change his mind, not even the colonoscopy, the nonstop visits to urgent care that I have talked about here. He will not stop taking them. It has caused some pretty heated arguments here. Still, I am not doing it. His last visit to urgent care was less than a week after his last booster. He was so sick.
I have flat refused to have another. I guess should I have a medical emergency where they refuse to give me service unless I do, I will have no other choice. This is not political as I have a whole different set of political leanings than my mother. They swear I should do it. I will not.
I believe in science. I also believe in how my body responds ... first and foremost.
The vx and the actual illness both cause inflammation. I guess we have to decide how we want to go moving forward.
Years ago, I was talked into getting a flu shot. I never believed in them as I believed in my immune system. I got a flu vx and was sick for 6 weeks. Very sick. Swore never again.
I think before we all take sides, (not just here, as a country) we all need to remember that there isn't a member here that is completely unvx'd. If you live in America, you ARE vx'd with something. Childhood vx's to enter school, the military or work in healthcare. So are all of your children. You have been vx'd. Tetanus? Who hasn't had one? You go to the ER with a cut, or a bite and you'll get one or the insurance comp. won't pay the ER bill. (We know that is stupid too)
I have read all I can. I have tried to be somewhat Libra about it. I have looked at both sides.
For me at this time, unless there is more information, until more time has passed, I am going to opt out. All three of the vx's made me terribly ill. I do know they are supposed to cause an immune response... but I had an immune response and then some. The second and the booster caused me to have hair loss. Probably not noticeable to others. But it was coming out in clumps in the shower.
I took a lot of activated charcoal after. I have eaten clean since. I follow a low inflammatory diet most every day with some cheating because I am a human haha ...
I take something called PectaSol-C (Amazon sells it) and I would highly recommend this to anyone suffering any type of inflammation. Studies have been done through Harvard University showing it lowers inflammation that can cause everything. Inflammation is the thing that gets us all. People with Cancer, heart attack and vein issues. Cause... usually inflammation. This stuff is amazing. Not woo. Good stuff. And it took the inflammation I had that was caused by the vx away... also some stiffness ... arthritis-y stuff too. Helps my joint and bone pain. This stuff lowers inflammation levels throughout the body. High ratings. And I can attest to this. It has worked for me. I also started taking a baby aspirin daily after the vx. Now I do around twice a week. What causes inflammation? Hormone imbalance Smoking, drinking, drugs, crap food, allergies, chemicals, chemicals in hair dye... you name it. A variety of things cause inflammation.
Allie and I had some long conversations about the vx. Neither of us wanted to do it. Both with husbands that believe in them. Both of us questioned it from day one. Both very concerned. I cannot speak for her of course but I know we both had deep concern. Both of us read all we could. And shared. Neither of us wanted to do it again at the time. I am still in this place. I will not do it again unless there is just no other way around it. I can't make sense of having a shot every six months and then feeling like death for a month after.
I also consider how many people have been vx'd and have still caught CV and how many have also passed that were vx'd. I think the one thing that stands out for me, that made me question it all was my grands pediatrician. He was 56ish... healthy. Very diligent with his diet and exercise. Looked like a model of health. He was vx'd early as he was of course a doc and worked with so many sick kids every day. A week after his booster he passed in his sleep from a massive heart attack. I know people can have heart attack at any time, but this didn't make sense. He had no history of heart disease and his wife said he was properly tested at all times. He had access to test, so he did it. All of us stood back and said... whoa.. and while there may be no reason to connect the two, I gave it some deep thought. A man who has no history nor family history of heart issues, who has blood work done, stress testing done (he was very into exercise) no illness nor underlying comorbidities. No blockages heart wise... ... has a heart attack within a week of the shot.
I am careful in flu season anyway. I don't run in crowds. In normal flu season making a visit to the doc I had the sense to wear a mask in a room full of sick people where I had to sit for 2 hours waiting for my turn. Long before the CV. I felt the same about airplane travel. Gross. I need to go to the doc and sit in a room full of people coughing and think I am indestructible? I mean, I don't want a cold either.
I don't mind following rules. I am happy to. But when they border on the ridiculous, I am not doing it. I will not wear a mask in my own vehicle. Nor will I ever wear one outside unless I am forced to stand where someone is burning something because I value my lungs. I am not wearing a mask to go to an outdoor event. Or swimming, lake, pool, or ocean. I would wear one in the ER or a winter doc or dental visit causing me to wait in a crowd of sick people, because I don't want to catch the darn common cold.
Who does? My husband. He is still double masking when he goes inside anything. Even when he goes into the office once a month. He wears his mask for 8 hours at work. No one else does. He will not budge. We literally have a mask closet. It was a linen closet. Not anymore 😳
My grandmother always told me when I don't know what to do don't do anything. It will come to me. She was right about most things. So, I am going to wait before I do anything else.
I fully understand that viruses kill. It took my mother. I know a lot of people that have passed from CV. But I am still skeptical.
Kids and I have A+ too....
@soup omg, you are spot on about all you’ve said. You said it all much better than I could. I’ve also had family member is their 50s and 60s pass after getting the vx very mysteriously.
I think when it affects the heart re:myocarditis (which I think is way more common than is currently reported because most people will never know and therefore don’t go to a cardiologist) I have some form of inflammation around my heart (may be pleurisy) but it comes and goes. I am trying to get a handle on it through eating non inflammatory foods. You may have noticed lately I’m sort of obsessed with this. My sixth house is ruled by Saturn and I have Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in the 3rd. I can get obsessed about health. I can research for hours. I’m like you and I go with the science. I don’t like to take someone’s word unless it’s backed up by evidence.
Sometimes there just is no answer and that’s when we have to go with our gut, and how we *feel*, exactly like you said. That’s what I’m doing as well.
One thing I think helps (and this is my non-medical doctor approved advice—just my feeling) is fasting and losing weight. I think inflammation is much much worse with extra fat. I think it multiplies the inflammation somehow.
i didn’t really want to lose weight. I like being a little curvy. I had finally gotten to a size 6 and I liked it. I also filled out my face which tends to be on the gaunt side. But since I went back down to a size four, I definitely have less inflammation and I feel better. Just my 2c. I’m a big believer in water flushing the body of toxins as well. Outside eliminating processed foods and sugar, drinking enough water is probably the best thing you can do to be healthy/keep inflammation away.
I tried to edit my post but it was too late. I lost my train of thought when I said “I think when it affects the heart…” I was going to say I think this is what is causing most of the deaths. Most are heart-related deaths from what I’ve noticed. You don’t want to have inflammation in and around your heart. It can can mess with it’s rhythms and cause electrical malfunction.
So many blood clots 😳 so I am taking baby aspirin just as a precaution. I don't every day because ... you know what that does to your stomach. Still... at least twice a week I take them. And that PectaSol-C
My mother had a heart attack in 2010. She had a quadruple bypass. BUT... she lost weight, started walking and exercising. She was never hugely overweight but at 5'3 she was still overweight for her height. Most of her issue was smoking and eating trash food. Probably did some damage from prescription drugs when she was younger. They amounted to diet pills (speed) when she was in her 30's.
When she had the heart attack, she had honestly started to turn over a new leaf with diet as her cholesterol was high from years of bad diet .... diet Pepsi, Cigarettes, pop a pill, go all day. That is what they did back then. Then eat cheesecake. 😳 Years of abuse add up but you can reverse it all with good food, rest and stopping bad habits. She waited too long.
When she got CV she didn't stand a chance in her 80s. It hit her like a wall of death. All her organs went to hell... they tried to put her in ICU and do the things... she threw a fit knowing if she didn't it was over. She said... send me home. She lasted a day or so. She was too ill to get up to go to the bathroom or do anything so hospice immediately from the hospital. No one did anything though because it took her fast. She knew it was too. She wanted to pass at home.
I think people with comorbidities are in danger. Immunocompromised, Diabetes, heart problems, def cancer patients or people who have had cancer in the past. There is so much we still don't know. I do know the virus is real. I do know it is deadly to some. I also know that until I can see something else... I need more information... no one is putting another injection in my body. I would rather be forced to wear a mask and continue to hand Sani and carry Lysol. I am not letting anyone in my face anyway... I am not that close to people. I don't get so close we are breathing each other's breath. I am grossed out as it is with no virus lol
@soup @sirena-oceana Yes, inflammation is the core issue, from both v rus and v x. I had v rus early on and saw effect on body re inflammation as I'm also dealing with my hormones changing and that also causes inflammation issues. I have changed my diet to non inflammatory which helps with everything. In fact it's a good side effect of these events which I think everyone could benefit from. Seeking more connection, balance and wholeness in/with the body.
My question has been, knowing that inflammation was/is already a chronic issue in the majority of people from diet and lifestyle (stress), especially in West, and the source of many ailments, wouldn't a created v rus that exacerbated inflammation be a great way of causing maximum impact but with minimal traceability?
I'm still trying to get off sugar, it's like a drug. I've reduced it but would like to minimise it further!
@sophiab If someone invented a virus that would take a lot of people out... targeting inflammation or causing more would be the best weapon anyone could use, especially on people who are already having acute problems. And inflammation is definitely an issue with anyone over 50. The whole thing has caused me to eat whole nutritious foods. I won't lie. I love chocolate. I don't have it every day. But I really love it. The days of eating trash are over for me, if I want to stay alive. Good grief. I have no vices. Can't we have any fun?
@soup I doubt it was to take us out. It was most likely intended to make them money. They knew they would get the vi rus too. Why would they take their own selves out? I’m sure they thought it may take out the weak but that their v x would take care of that and they would be heroes. Win/win—they’re heroes *and* they get all the money from it.
Have any of "them" been taken out by either the v_r_s or the v_x? Have any of "them" actually HAD either?
@warped I have no idea. Do you know? Just doesn’t seem likely to me they want to kill everyone. They’ll be dead before most of us die and they won’t even get to see the benefit. Whatever benefit that is they get from this… from killing people. They get more of a profit from keeping us alive.
Consider what else was achieved globally besides profits.
Are you familiar with the goals openly displayed on the WEF website?
Have you seen the WHO's Center For Health Security Org. report detailing their most recent Tabletop Exercise in Oct. 2022 entitled Catastrophic Contagion regarding SEERS, Severe Epidemic EnteroVirus Respiratory Syndrome, "expected" to infect a high rate of children with up to 50% morbidity, emerging from Brazil in 2025?
Do you remember the subject of the WHO's 2019 Tabletop Exercise, Event 201?
@warped They truly are overachievers, and not in any good sense of the word. They have their tentacles all over everything far and wide. They hate us. I cannot emphasize that enough.
@soup I think I’m gonna try pectasol-c, ty for the recommendation. It a little expensive 😯 but if it works then it’s worth it I suppose. Really sorry about your mom.
We should make a thread to share our non inflammatory recipes!
@sirena-oceana Try using just one scoop a day instead of 3. I will last much longer, and you will see benefit. Also, mix it with a frother. It wants to clump otherwise. It sure helped me. Read about it. Good stuff. xo
This revelation, in tandem with the Pf!z€r video, leaves little doubt as to intent --
"Scientists have discovered a chunk of DNA in C_v_d that matches a sequence patented by M0d€rn@ in 2015."
Ashamed? They should be prosecuted for crimes against humanity.
Yay, you're alive! I've been wondering and worrying and praying about you, just about to add a "Where's JoFrance" post!
Sad revelation, yes -- but not surprising.
All is well here. I was just down in the dumps for awhile after looking for a new place to live and not finding anything worthwhile. I'll look again later in the year if the economy improves and the prices come back down. Inflation drove house prices through the roof. Thank you for thinking of me.
There has to be accountability for the v, but where is it going to come from? People involved with it all cover for each other because they have skin in the game and make money off the crime. These people sold their soul for profits and power and are despicable beyond belief. They made a deal with the devil, so there's no going back.
We missed you!
Absolutely true. And the few global leaders who resisted are now dead.
Raising awareness, creating an alternative "society," preparedness. Of course, if any organized effort to derail the evil plan is actually in the works, we won't be privy to it.
Are you intent on staying up north? Still lots of affordable small towns in the South and northern FL. Azaleas are starting to bloom here!
There will be a lot of investigations, but I can only hope there will be severe consequences for what these people have done to humanity. I'm glad a lot of people are waking up to what is going on. Maybe, someday we'll get justice.
I want to stay up north because my family is here and it would be an easier move to stay in the area for me. Moving down south is always tempting, but I just don't want to change my life to that extent.
I don’t think anyone knows the truth in it’s entirety . I think probably each tentacle of this beast just knows enough to justify its actions to itself and be able to sleep at night.
For me personally I just don’t trust the “system” and all of it’s many branches so as a rule I try to avoid what it’s offering/forcing upon me. As far as I’m concerned all of its tainted. Of course I can’t avoid all of it, but I avoid what I can and their “medicine” is one of those things.
It is also just interesting to me that we were supposed to follow the science but the correct scientific studies were not performed on this shot for this application. So, there’s that kind of blatant mind fuckery and mixed messaging that I thought would be a huge red flag, but I guess it’s something that desperate people are willing to overlook.
There’s also just the fact that it is all so confusing. Like- why? The truth is not confusing and that whole….thing was confusing. My guess is that was by design.
@libra-noir I don’t think anyone knows the truth in its entirety. I think probably each tentacle of this beast just knows enough to justify its actions to itself and be able to sleep at night.
Agree 10000000% My Scorpio trusts nothing. I try hard to work with that. But I can tell you the thing made me very sick. I had no choice on the hysterectomy. It had to happen. And no one wanted to touch me without that thing. It happened November 2020. Everyone was scrambling. I was caught between a rock and a hard place. I kicked and argued. Did me no good. They asked me why I wanted to sacrifice my parents.
Those were days I had long conversations with Allie. Neither of us knew what the answer was. But long discussions and a lot of thought went into what the next move should be.
The correct studies were NOT done on this particular vx. Mind fuckery was in full force. It really played on my heart and emotions even though I was really steadfast in trying to find the correct answers. Even still. I had to have surgery at a place where I was dropped at the door, armed guards at the entrance. Alone. No one could be inside with me. If I became incoherent at any time, there would be no one to speak on my behalf. I was terrified. My husband had to wait at a hotel for a call when I was finished, and I was allowed no visit. I was taken outside upon my departure. Dropped at the car door. Abdomen full of stitches. With a piece of paper for instruction for after care.
What a nightmare. Forced to comply. No choice. I was hemorrhaging. The surgery had to happen. I had to comply. I am still pissed about it. Science is good. In my opinion, there was not enough science to give me peace.
@soup I think science as a process and practice is cool, but Science as an industry or institution seems to be more of what the media and it’s followers are speaking of.
@sophiab Thank you so much 💓 I could write a book about this Pluto transit 😳 it has been an experiment in terror! When I look over my shoulder, I still can't believe it. I'm still trying to make sense of it. Lost home business family friends my mind uterus & both parents.
The worst of it happened when it got close to my 22-degree dsc in Capricorn. Saturn was working me too. Persistent nightmare with some newfound depression and loneliness. Pluto takes everything. I know this sounds insane, I'm a thousand times better person for it. Saturn gave me no freedom from the pain. I had no idea I could still unearth the strength I've found. All anchors gone; I can still carry on. Even during rejection. The bonus.... FREEDOM. Freedom I've never experienced in my life. I've never been free. I always been responsible for a lot of people. Besides my grandparents taking care of me as a small child, no one has ever taken care of me. So now I am 😊
Also, my children have become my friends. I woke up to a message this morning. Love you. (Son) next... GD ... miss you so much love you so much. Next other son... a piece of music. Next another GD.. love you, come home soon... I inhale every word knowing what's left what's is truly mine. The gift... I know who truly loves me now. All the garbage was removed leaving me with exactly what's true. Who needs a uterus anyway ❤
@soup awwww 23 degree cap sun 24 degree rising here. Plus 12 house cap stellium. ditto. Had an astrologer tell me in 2010; "You will lose much and you will gain much. " wow. She was right.
the last time pluto was in Aquarius was 1778-1798 during the US revolutionary war. "Burn your bridges behind you."
I recognize I am in a new life. Purging. Anything that is not part of my new life. I finally have a new vision. Manifesting generator. If I can see it I can do it
so happy to see this conversation here but dangerously close to politics.
I experienced a cluster of inflammatory symptoms Christmas 2019. I coughed over everyone at holiday. NOONE else got sick then. Fought for my life for 3 weeks. This was a full month before the narrative of Patient zero in January 2020. I knew it was a lie then.
Working in health care. I was deep inside the medical centers/labs during the 1980's. AIDS debacle. Then SARS. SAME PEOPLE! new scam.
I have been burdened with this knowledge for over 30 years. I am very sad. My kids all inoculated. No one listened to me.
@nona "You will lose much, and you will gain much. " Wow. She was right.
Same here. I get so scrambled talking about what happened because so much happened if I don't have a calendar when I am talking or typing I mistake dates. Moving, loss, seclusion and illness. A lot to overcome. When people ask me when my parents passed, I sometimes have to look to see the exact date some days. He corrects me sometimes. I look over my shoulder and still can't believe it. How all that happened, and I am talking about it.
Manifesting generator. If I can see it, I can do it.
Same. Scared to talk about this just yet. Unreal. I have no idea how this happened. It's like magic. So, I keep it to myself.
I'm sorry to hear you were so sick. I understand. Similar situation here. I need to look at the calendar LOL... but I too was sick with no answers. Tested for A and B flu, and strep. Nope. Had neither.
I have one son and fam that would not. One that did and will never again.
My young life plans were set for me to be a nurse. Life changed all that. I worked at my local hospital through HS and for a total of 6 years. My path took a huge turn and sent me elsewhere, so I was not inside for long. People get busy and they don't have time, nor do they have access to the information they need in making these decisions. Most are doing the best they can. It's so nice to talk to you nona!
@soupDear Soup; Sometimes there are no words to describe our experience of shock and trauma. Old traumas weave in, and we are at the mercy of our conditioning and brain chemistry.
I understand the calendar. This will fade as you heal. It makes perfect sense in the eyes of trauma. We need a way to ground and conceptualize what is happening. (And it's astrological !)
Thanks for bringing this up because in light of the collective trauma we are now facing, I needed a reminder. It's brain chemistry. Beautiful and protective. Changable and trainable!
Deep trauma and grief morphing into freedom and vision. I'll take it. And share it.
@libra-noir lt is "mind fuckery" and it has been going on for a very very long time. It pretty much started for all of us when we went to school in the 1st grade. Then you can add to that the TV, Hollywood, the church too, politics, colleges, medicine, music, charities, and Science.
Real Science invites inquiry it doesn't shun it. It is open to rigorous analysis allowing for every possible angle to be explored fully. The word "science "was thrown around so much and so loosely it was rather sickening really. There's a red flag. It is my opinion that their use of that word was an indoctrination trigger. As if to say that the mere mention of the word over and over everywhere would be enough to develop devotion.
Their science operates in secrecy and behind the shadows. They allowed no inquiries, in fact doctors and scientists who questioned any miniscule part of their narrative were punished severely and very publicly. Those people have my utmost respect because they value their soul and integrity more than money. That is a real human being in my opinion. I would have thought people would have had more suspicion about how they attacked these honorable men and women but no, l guess it didn't register.
Well said. I agree, the lack of skepticism in so many bewilders me. So much of both schooling and media cultivate group think and conformity now. I never really noticed it until the late 90s in workplace culture, a sort of all pervading PC fog which some folks my age inexplicably bought into. But younger folks have never known a world without it.