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What Will Happen If The Police Are Defunded?
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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 7:01 pm
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https://abc7ny.com/nyc-to-vote…..t/6284680/

https://1010wins.radio.com/art…..ays-in-nyc

Okay, so in the midst of a crime spike in NYC…..the city wants to cut a billion dollars in the police budget?  huh   

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Tuesday, June 30, 2020 - 7:17 pm
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It’s a capitulation to Black Lives Matters. DeBlasio is a disgrace.

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I can’t believe what’s happening in NYC.  DeBlasio has never had a good relationship with the police, but a big city, really any major city, needs police.  There should be police reform, not defunding.  Less police = more crime.

I can’t believe he let go all of the plainclothes police.  They were the people that caught all the crime before it happened.

Black Lives Matter are anarchists and thugs that have joined with Antifa, the white rich kids and left wing radicals, to destroy society.  None of them care about black lives or any lives at all, they just want to destroy things.  They should all go to jail where they can “reimagine policing” indefinitely.

There needs to be real discussion about the problems with policing, bad police and crime in the black community.  Gang violence.  Drugs.  We should be thankful anyone wants to be a cop in this environment.

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Wednesday, July 1, 2020 - 10:24 pm
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The 1 billion dollar cut will eliminate the next class of recruits. Add that to the 49% increase in retirements since the rioting began….well there can’t be any good coming from that. 

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 7:34 pm
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Agree with every word of this. 

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How ironic! Minneapolis town council members that are disbanding police have been given their own private security! LOL you can’t make this shyte up. Too bad for you citizens…you’re on your own.

https://nypost.com/2020/06/27/…..-security/

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For all those who demured, “defunding doesn’t mean eliminating the police, it means reform” . Did you hear that over and over again? Well what they mean in Philly is abolish the police completely. “One of the things that we are demanding over five years is the complete abolition. We don’t want to see any police in our community,” 

People and businesses are moving out in droves.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/bla…..ish-police

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 7:22 pm
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I think they mean exactly what they say. It’s like protecting an abuser “oh no he doesn’t really mean that Im stupid and ugly even though thats what he called me”. People are making excuses for others behavior and message all over right now. Codependency is everywhere right now. It’s insane to me how broad these psychological concept can play out in reality. 

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 3:36 pm
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Oh this is Fox news. 

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 7:08 pm
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Yes it’s been reported in many venues including FOX.

https://newsvoice.com/i/4723220

https://1010wcsi.com/fox-news/…..ust%20that.

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My hashtag # stop hiring psychos. It’s simple. Vet these cops. Get rid of the bad apples (and there definitely are some). But see it’s not about making actual progress as a society for them; defund the police as a concept is about chaos and destruction. Why are so many in denial about the essential negative vibration of the defund the police message? 

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I don’t think they vet these cops enough either. I’m known several cops in my life. Some of them were really community minded and great people. There were a couple of other ones that I knew who were very screwed up individuals psychologically. If I can tell that just from casually seeing them in social situations and knowing of them, why isn’t it picked up in their police vetting? Whatever they’re doing isn’t thorough enough.

Their training needs to be looked at too. In some cases the police response doesn’t fit the crime, like what they did to Eric Garner selling loose cigarettes on the street in NY. Does that warrant several cops and one of them using a choke hold on him, killing him?

That being said, I think the majority of police are very selfless individuals that put their lives on the line to keep our cities safe. Sure, no one likes to get a ticket for something, but cops are a necessity for a civil society. We can fix the problems in policing and make it better.

I think we should defund BLM. They don’t give a whit about any lives.  They’re just a bunch of anarchists/marxists looking to destroy the country and take it over. They are well-funded by Democrats and other prominent sports and business figures and celebrities. None of those people have to go without safety or security or live with the consequences of a socialist/marxist society. Only the rest of us do.

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I’ve read that many police officers (not most or all) have ties to white supremacy/nationalism, and one officer’s home had white nationalist periphernalia in it (I think it was found after he died). 

Why isn’t anyone looking into this? Why are some police officers attracted to the whole white power thing? No wonder black people are scared of them! There are a lot of good cops, and I believe most are decent people–but the bad apples Libra Noir mentioned are harming the rest of the bunch. 

Also–it appears the origins of law enforcement, at least here in the South, had to do with the preservation of slavery.  So if the foundation of the police force is not benign to begin with–that’s a huge problem. Those of us who are white might think, well, why should that concern me? It may not concern or bother us but if I was a black person, that fact would not sit well with me, at all. I would not trust the police to act in the interests of me nor my community. 

https://time.com/4779112/polic…..y-origins/

 

So I can see why there’s so much anger out there. It’s like all these protests, agree with them or not, are exposing rotten foundations to institutions. Doesn’t matter if we want to look or not, there’s the rot for all to see and to help clean up. 

I’m not saying we should defund the police. I’m saying there are foundational problems (Saturn/Pluto in Capricorn) that we need to address as a society if we want to move forward.

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 8:21 pm
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I think many understand but are afraid to go against the grain and voice it. It’s no wonder, people are losing their jobs if they do. 

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Thursday, July 9, 2020 - 8:22 pm
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People are losing their jobs if they stay silent “silence is violence”.

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