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Romanette
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Hi all,

I wanted to talk about near-death experiences because I for one enjoy reading these stories. I've probably read a few hundred of them at this point.

I find them to be comforting, but I don't think there's any way to know their truth-value. I mean, the people who experience them may be honestly reporting what they experienced, but there's no way of knowing whether these experiences point to a higher, objective truth, as far as I can tell.

That having been said, there are some striking similarities between accounts that lead me to believe they are true true. I'll list some of them here.

Many experiencers come back with the message that love is the most important thing in the world. By this they mean a generalized type of love and goodwill towards one's fellow man (agape?).

They have a life review, where they see every little thing they did in life and how it made other people feel (which honestly sounds like a real cringe-fest to me, but they say it is done without any feelings of judgment).

They say that the other side is realer than real and that what we consider to be real life here seems like a dream they have woken up from.

They report that time loses all meaning on the other side and there is a feeling of oneness with everything that is. All communication with other beings is done telepathically. They learn that we are all parts of God and not separate from God. Many experiencers say they learn that being religious is not important, although all religions contain some parts of the truth.

After they come back, many of the experiencers have a hard time going back to their old lives now that their perspective has changed. They are more spiritual and less materialistic. Some of them also have newfound psychic abilities. Many of them report that they can no longer wear a watch because it stops working (I have a hard time believing this one).

This only scratches the surface, but I don't want to go on and on. There's a similar list on one of the sites I read here: https://iands.org/ndes/about-ndes/characteristics.html

This post isn't really about astrology, but I think I'm into these stories because I have Venus conjunct Uranus in Scorpio in the 8th house - they're not only about the mysteries of life and death, but they're also usually life-changing events for the people who have them.

So, I'm curious to hear what others think.  Fascinating?  Boring? Complete poppycock?  What do you think?

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CocoPeaches
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I love this stuff. I had a NDE, and it can be frustrating to explain my experience because I remember nothing, but I woke up as a changed person. I can relate to a lot of what you wrote - especially these three things:

"Many experiencers come back with the message that love is the most important thing in the world. By this they mean a generalized type of love and goodwill towards one's fellow man"

"They learn that we are all parts of God and not separate from God."

"After they come back, many of the experiencers have a hard time going back to their old lives now that their perspective has changed. They are more spiritual and less materialistic."

I don't know about the watch thing but it definitely drives me crazy when my watch runs out of battery. I also hate how quickly my hair and fingernails grow. These are facts of life that just don't seem right after you've experienced eternal oneness! : )

I'm also interested in traumatic brain injuries and PTSD - because these things are wrapped up together in my near death experience, and I think it is the case for many others.

I didn't see any light, or my life flash before my eyes, or see or hear anything for that matter. I was knocked out cold in a split second, plus I suffered some other injuries simultaneously that caused me to bleed a lot, and then I was submerged underwater for a couple of minutes. So I just remember nothing. I was just totally blindsided. I can pinpoint the last thing that I remember before it happened (made a choice), and the first thing that I remember when I started to wake up a few days later (physical pain).

The cool part is that I came back with an enormous sense of faith in God, which is mysterious because I did not have it before. My personality changed too, like I became more outwardly focused, in a really positive way. As if all of my insecurities dissolved, and I opened up to experience a whole new way of interacting with the world.

To this day, 15 years later, I still feel like I am floating through reality. I've been trying to write about it for years, and I've learned a lot for myself through the exercise... but I'm still not able to communicate clearly about it. I don't know the Astrology of it. I have a tight Mars-Uranus opposition in my natal chart, and Pluto was transiting around that area at the time, while Mars was also opposite Uranus in the sky. So I chalk it up to that energy but I'm not really sure.

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Calliope
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Recently I've been reading and listening a lot about it. I've come to discover this through Anita Moorjani's experience. I work a lot on past emotional healing and I'm deeply touched by all these stories of NDE.

I have Uranus transiting my 8th house now, so maybe it's that aspect... or maybe it's Progressed Asc switch to Scorpio (I have  anyways natal Pluto in the 1st house). So maybe all or a more intense 8 house energy...

I've always believed these stories and experiences. I had myself some experiences (partially in dreams) - no NDE - but what I experienced showed me how hard it is to explain what happens and that we usually expercience them all alone. So, it is you and this experience you had, so hard to put in words, but you know it happened and it is real. 

I really believe there is another realm and that it can totaly transform a person who experience going there and coming back. It fascinates me...

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@calliope I hadn't come across Anita Moorjani's story before. Thank you for sharing. It's always interesting to hear a different perspective.... and now NDERF is a new rabbit hole for me. shiny chicken  

"She submitted the description of her NDE and subsequent healing to the Near Death Experience Research Foundation (NDERF) website, a site owned and run by oncologist Jeffrey Long and his wife, Jody Long, a family law attorney."

 

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I met a man at a minor league baseball game. He was the father of ballplayer, Josh Reddick. He was disabled and he told my husband and I the story of how he got electrocuted while working on some lines and had a NDE. He didn't want to come back but he had 2 young boys so he decided to come back. It changed his life forever. He asked his sons what they wanted to do with their lives and devoted his life to their dreams. Josh wanted to be a major league ball player :D. He was called up to the Red Sox not long after. They achieved it! He was very credible. 

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I was really into this topic about a decade ago, read through a lot of stories. I actually have a cool book about it (The Big Book of Near-Death Experiences by P. M. H. Atwater) that goes very in-depth into the research.

I think these are real and that the people who experience these are definitely being shown something on the "other side," but the great variety of accounts proves to me how complex the other side really is. So many commonalities and yet so many differences.

Since the experiences are so catered to the individual, I take it with a grain of salt whenever people proclaim ultimate truths from these. But, they are fascinating to read about and indicate to me that there is definitely something more out there than our limited lives here, and a larger meaning to all things.

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Romanette
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I think what draws me to these stories is the strong faith that the experiencers seem to have afterwards and the sense of clarity they gain.  I once read that during someone's experience he could see himself as clearly as we see a knife on a table, and that appealed to me.  Sometimes I wonder what things that have happened in my life actually mean and it would be nice to have answers for once...

I can understand what a few people have said about how hard it is to put these experiences into words.  I've had a couple of spiritual experiences that I consider to be bona fide.  They're hard to explain, but I also kind of don't want to, because what if I'm not taken seriously?  So I think sometimes these things can be isolating for that reason.

It's also interesting how many people are greeted by family members when they cross over.  I don't think I've ever read an account where someone was greeted by a close friend or someone they were in love with or even a spouse.  It's usually grandparents.  Sometimes it's a grandparent they never even got to meet during their lifetime.  So that's food for thought.

Thank you to everyone for sharing your perspectives Smile

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