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Libra Noir
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Thank you everyone for the well wishes and advice! It means a lot. And thanks for letting me get my frustrations out. Overall, my healing seems to be going ok. I lost four pounds in a week, but that’s needed anyway and I’m doing ice and an antibacterial mouthwash as well as salt water with himalayan salt that was charged on my altar. I’m with you Sophia- salt is truly powerful and magical! I’ve also been flushing my nose with saline because it feels like it affected my sinuses, but that could also be the fact that there is like zero humidity where I live in California right now (omg sooooo dry, but one of our oaks just dropped a bunch of acorns which could mean a wet winter! So happy about that- we need water so bad here)  

They prescribed norco but I don’t mess with stuff if I can avoid it, so didn’t get it filled and so far a high dosage of ibuprofen has done the trick. I think I might have a high pain tolerance maybe? Which is surprising considering the fact that I’m a highly sensitive person.  

 

Anyway, I think the staff and surgeon did a great job. It was a surgery that I had put off for like 20 years- seriously and it was one of my new year’s resolutions to get it done. So I’m grateful I finally had the money (expensive!) and the time to get it done, it just happened to fall near my birthday. Do I wish I had a stronger support system though? I do! Could I be stronger in my intent for that? I could! 

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@libra-noir, I had a similar surgery earlier in the year.  I had an infected back molar that ate away at part of my jaw bone.  They pulled it and scraped my jaw bone and then rebuilt my jaw with cadaver bone.  

Surgery like you had is no joke and your friend should have cared enough to stay with you awhile and help make you comfortable.  I'm sure he's not a bad person, he just doesn't know how to care.

My doctor gave me antibiotics and ibuprofen after surgery. I had an antioxidant  gel that I had to rub on the area several times a day to promote healing.  It all came out good in the end.

I can relate to what you say about it affecting sinuses.  Lots of sinus problems are caused by teeth problems.

 

 

 

 

 

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Omg, did you have any symptoms?  I've been putting off my next root canal/crown because unlike my last one (broken molar, filling fell out, intense non-stop pain which I knew could lead to bone infection), this one has stopped hurting now that I've scheduled the procedure.  I'm simply not chewing on that side.  The tooth might be cracked but filling is still in place.

I'm only trying to avoid for as long as possible because I'm hoping it was a temporary thing and I'm petrified of potential CV exposure from possibly asymptomatic people getting literally in my face.

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@warped From what I understand pain then no pain is actually not a great sign? Or at least no pain is not indicative of no infection? I know you are concerned about covid but you could die from a tooth infection too and covid is probably not going to end any time soon. 

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You're right.  The tooth problem just started two weeks ago, sudden intense pain for three days despite salt rinse, etc.  My great dentist relocated last year, so I called my Endodontist directly expecting to need a root canal/crown.  Got appointment for next week plus scrip for antibiotics to kill off infection. But pain stopped before I picked up the meds so I haven't even started them.  Now thinking that since I'll need to have a new dentist (recommended by Endo) make and install the crown, perhaps I should have him actually diagnose the problem first to be sure the root canal is necessary.

I actually had all this done to another tooth a year ago despite COVID because I read about the dangers of bone infection, and I even did the 1.5 hour nightmare drive (construction) to my old dentist for the crown after I tracked him down, but makes more sense to have a local dentist. 

Teeth -- Capricorn?  Pluto long past my Cap Asc but squaring both my Sun and Neptune, and approaching my Cap Chiron.  Tiresome!

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@warped Sigh. I know. It’s a pain in the butt, and can be overwhelming. I need some more work too. A crown (had the root canal) and a bunch of fillins (my dentist is Korean and with her accent it comes out as fillins lol, so that’s what I’ve been calling them). But wait there’s more- I’m going to look into getting an implant for a bicuspid that also got pulled last week but thatll probably be well into 2022.

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@libra-noir,

Implants are the way to go, though they are too expensive.  I have one now, a molar, and I love it.  I will be getting another one next year to replace the tooth I lost.  

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I knew that tooth would have to go one day. I was able to maintain it for a long time with periodontal visits, but there were gum issues around the tooth (deep pockets) which allowed bacteria to get in and eat away the bone.

I did the same thing as you. I didn't eat on that side, but that affected the other side of my mouth negatively. I'm glad I got the tooth out. I should've done it years ago. It was awful surgery. I was stitched up for 10 days.

I wouldn't worry about getting C from the surgery. I am not vaccinated and they worked on my mouth for an hour and a half (Periodontist and Assistant). It doesn't get any closer than that. I've been to the periodontist at least 5 times since C began and never had a problem. They take a lot of precautions that are very effective. They have air filters and filters to catch any droplets from the surgery. Plus, they wear a lot of protective gear.

The other time I had similar surgery, I had an old crown that no longer fit properly. The tooth was dead ( I found out) so I had no pain at all, but the poor fit allowed infection to go into my jaw. One day, half of my face swelled up and I found out bacteria had gotten in and eaten away part of my jaw. Then I had pain from my swollen jaw. That was another awful surgery.

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@jofrance I remember that and honestly hearing about how the infection went to your bone freaked me out about mine and encouraged me to get it done. Luckily that infection didnt get into your blood! Glad it turned out ok for you.

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Apparently my friend's going out of state for Thanksgiving and before he went to bed, he told me he'd tell me about it later. Um okay? I hope he has fun and I have no idea why I'm getting informed about it a month in advance. That's his personal time with his family. I don't know. Maybe he's just excited and wants someone to know about his excitement and share it. 

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@purplestargirl Lol, friends share this type of thing! It’s not strange. Your last sentence sounds right.

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Learning how to forage and store and cook with acorns! Like I said in my previous post, one of the oaks here just dropped an absolute bounty of acorns (oddly the other two haven’t- not sure how that works- male/female?).  I plan on maybe making something for thanksgiving with them, and of course leave enough for the woodpecker society we have here and the tree squirrels. 

Also looking into some worms for my raised beds for next years garden. I’m worried about the three to five freezes we get here though. Maybe I should get them after? I just want to give them time to do their magic on the soil but don’t want them to die. Do you guys have any advice on worms in that regard? 

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@libra-noir I thought about harvesting acorns until I realized how much work is required to make them edible. From what I gathered, they need to be boiled many, many times over to remove tannins. Maybe someday!

Regarding worms, I have never introduced any to my beds, so I don't know for sure - but they should be able to retreat underground for the winter (unless you have some impermeable material between the raised beds and the earth below.) I add lots of leaf mulch on top of my beds, which helps regulate the soil temp so the worms come up and do their magic.

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sorry, i know nothing about worms!  not doing well in general, that's why I haven't been posting.

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You've been in my thoughts and prayers.  Hang in there!  🙏❤🙏

 

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@okscorpiogal  we miss you!

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@okscorpiogal, I hope you feel better.

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good to see you Smile Hope you feel better soon!

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Today was not a fun day for me and my nerves are a bit jangly.

First, I just got an email informing me that I have lost my health insurance due to not working enough hours. I called the benefits line and found out that while I enrolled last fall—the coverage was not there in January! Then the lady I talked to said July—then January again. (Thanks Neptune.) So all I have today is dental and vision coverage, they said. I can try to pick up hours and then apply for insurance during open enrollment. 

This is nuts. I work three jobs, but this is the only one that offers insurance and I can’t pick up more hours unless I work seven days a week or drop my evening job and pick up another client or two with the morning agency. I’m also a live-in caregiver so I have to be careful not to be away from my housemate too long. 

Speaking of her—she’s been kind of switching between nasty and nice lately. Today one of her daughters took her to therapy, then oil change for her (my housemate’s) car. She kept asking her daughter “Who’s been driving my car??” the whole way home and acted put out when her daughter expected her to pay for her own oil change (I guess she thought her daughter would cover her.) Anyway, they got home and Mom hides her daughter’s keys just as she was needing to hurry somewhere. I found the keys and the daughter told her mother off. Then she told her sister what happened and we both ranted a bit. I was just venting but the older daughter got irritated and said let’s just put her in a home. Easier on all of us.

🤯😳

Ohhhh goody. So now not only did I lose my health insurance, I’m probably losing one of my jobs AND moving again. During a pandemic and supply chain crisis, no less.

Uranus/Moon. I think I need a bug out bag.

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They'll all calm down and forget about the home idea in a day or two.  Remind them that the holidays are coming if a little guilt is necessary.

If you qualify for the low cost Obamacare you can get health insurance for as little as $4/mo. -- that's what I paid before Medicare. High deductible, but coverage.  You might have to actually earn less for 2021 to qualify for it in 2022 -- take the rest of the year off!

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@warped I talked with someone else who told me the same thing. So far the daughters have been quiet, and the oldest has decided to take their mom to physical therapy while the youngest is licking her wounds. Maybe that full moon just got everybody amped up. 

Still giving Uranus that side eye tho…..👀

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@notmycircus I'm so sorry. 🙁

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I agree with Warped. They'll forget about it in a couple of days. A little holiday guilt wouldn't hurt if you had to go there, but they'll probably be fair with you.

Maybe you should look into a health care co-op.

https://www.verywellhealth.com/what-is-a-health-insurance-co-op-2615262

It might meet your needs for now.

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@jofrance I’m actually thinking of getting insurance outside of an employer, or something like what you’re suggesting. Maybe this is part of my Uranus transit to the Moon—liberating me from traditional ways of gaining security.

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Why does Pluto hurt in synastry? I'm getting to the point where I can't take it anymore.

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@purplestargirl Try having Moon Conjunct Pluto with someone. I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy. And, it's a life sentence.

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I have someone's Pluto squaring my Sun, trining my Moon and Venus, and sextiling my Mars. It's too much and too painful. And I have a Scorpio ASC with a 1st house Pluto.

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@purplestargirl Oh, I know. It's that Sag. I get it. Damn Sag has tripped up my life - all my life. I will give you a suggestion, but I know how you feel.... I RUN from them. I learned my lesson the hard way. 

When you can finally let go of Mister Archer and I mean LET GO you are going to fly forward and really get things started. It will take you finally blocking him, and really once and for all walking away. Not easy. I adore them. They are my weakness. They are big and fun and full of life. All that fire lights me UP. When they are good they are really good.... but they cannot and will not stay in one place. They are wild horses. And, they blurt out the craziest shit I have ever heard in my life ... either to shock ??? or to hurt ?? whatever... makes this Scorpio go from having a blast to carrying a sharp object.

I have had to literally run over three of them... I mean, take em OUT. But, not because I wanted to. I LOVED them. I had to cut it off. Kill it... to save myself from absolute hell. I was tired of feeling like shit. It is painful. The most painful experience... all three times. I cried. Hard. But, I conquered it. I conquered them. And, all three of them have come back around to see if they can come back. 

The answer is NO. Not a chance. Door is not even cracked. Why? Because I know I cannot be 'just friends' with them. It always leads back to exactly where it was... painful. 

Sagittarius men need fire suns. I don't give a shit what the synastry is in a chart. You've been going through this for years. How many more do you want to waste? I decided NO MORE - but it was not easy. It was heart shattering. Still, even though it still pings my heart sometimes when I think back... I was able to do it, and so are you. 

You are a CAPRICORN before you are anything else. Eff that rising. I am not a Cancer because I am a cancer rising and I don't give anyone a break because of synastry and neither should you. You have a Stellium in Capricorn. I wish I had that... and in the 3rd!?!  You give more credit to that rising than you should. You are your SUN first, before you are anything. 

I have moon pluto with that lifetime Sag. And, the synastry is so tight that some would look at it and think... WHY aren't you with this person. Why? For the exact same reason you are hurt right now. It always comes back to PAIN. And, love should not be that effing hard. Nothing is easy all the time, but the on/off love you, shit on you, love you, aloof with you, saying shitty things because I can - NO! 

I spent my life with fire men. Every single one of them. And, then, I figured it out. I got a Pisces. More suitable. More sustainable. More peaceful. Strong Saturn contacts. Even when I hate them sometimes. I love fire men, but there was nothing but pain associated with them and in the end... I can tell you how the story ends... and it aint pretty. 

Let that dude go! If you don't, you are going to continue to waste years doing exactly what you have been doing .... or at least what I have read what you have been doing for years here at EE. 

PLEASE take this the right way... I mean nothing but the best toward you. You deserve a good life. I freaking know how bad it hurts. I had the one... oh God, I had kids with this man. Ruined life...(or lessons!) the next one had a freaking Scorpio moon. Dear God! And the one from childhood... well that synastry is so tight and looks so good on paper that people are shocked by it.... Sun Saturn exact contact. Moon Pluto tho... eeek... his Jupiter sitting all over my Scorpio stellium... that big love shit... NO... we could be in the same room and look at each other and not notice another person on the earth... our whole lives...but still - HELL NO. NO WAY! Truly the most painful shit I have ever been in in my life. Like... puts me in the bed in the fetal position - pain. HELL NO. 

You get to decide when it is over dear girl... YOU! You said, you are getting to the point where you can't take it anymore. Don't. xo 

 

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Capricorn stelliums aren't all what they crack up to be. Trust me. I still don't get what my 3rd house has to do with that though.

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I'm sorry, I thought your Stellium was in your 3rd house. Maybe I remember it wrong. I remember us both discussing our charts at length but it has been a while. I would gladly trade you some Scorpio for some Capricorn. 

I so hope you are well. You are such a nice person and deserve everything good. 

I understand Pluto contacts. I know how painful they are. Harsh. Hard. The Saturn contacts I have with my husband are sometimes hard for me to take. Sometimes he acts like a father. It can be gross. I literally have to say to him... I don't need a dad. He is a total Saturn figure to me. At times he judges me harshly... of course you know where that goes.... I listen until its too much and when I am forced into a corner I tell him to back the fuck off. 

There is not a relationship ... I don't care who says otherwise, that is perfect. I can only say this for certain... life can change in a blink and how you think something will turn out... well it may surprise you. This back and forth with Archer is not without reason. You are both learning something and who knows... you may end up together.... I hate to hear of you feeling pain from it because I know exactly how it feels. And, its exhausting. 

I can also guarantee you that I am NO relationship expert. I am however a pain expert... and I usually caused it myself. 

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Yes, I am doing well other than the pain from Mr. Archer. You're right. My stellium is in my 3rd house, I'm just not sure if the 3rd house has any significance regarding it.

Plutonian relationships, whether it be friendships or romantic, don't seem to last from what I've heard. I doubt we'll end up together. He'd rather date unstable women over me anyways and continue down a path of self-sabotage. He says he doesn't want that from me and that supposedly being my friend is the only thing he knows he can do right. And yes, he is aware of how I feel about him.

With him, I never feel good enough and he doesn't seem to care about what's going in my life anyways, i.e. regarding my Scorpio brother who's currently recovering in the hospital from cancer treatment or that I'm switching career paths from IT (which is what he works in) to medical coding (more job openings and I have more of an interest in that anyways). He'll feign concern about my emotions on why I'm sad or frustrated but honestly, I don't think he truly cares. I even said so and his comeback was that he didn't want to dwell on any of it. I never asked him to dwell, I only want him to actually care if he wants my friendship.

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@purplestargirl  I would like to say I am so sorry to hear about your brother. I sure hope he is able to pull through that again. I remember the 1st time. And, as a friend, he should show concern .... an actual friend does that because they are worried about you and family and how you are handling it. 

Prayers up for your brother. 

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He pulled through the cancer treatment. Had really bad side effects that landed him in the ICU. Let's just hope that the treatment worked and put the leukemia into remission permanently.

I told Mr. Archer about it and his response was pretty negative in that was apparently the end for his friend who died of leukemia. So yeah, I don't think I should have anything to do with him until he grows into a more healthy version of himself. Someone who isn't self sabotaging and negative all of the time. Sadly I don't see that happening. He's got Venus in Capricorn square Pluto in Libra.

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