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Elsa
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Sanity is underrated. Do you agree?

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I disagree strongly. Sanity is the only state worth striving for imo and what’s the opposite? Insanity? I’ve been there- it’s to be tormented by your own mind. Sanity is relief from that. I rate relief from suffering very high. 

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@libra-noir I think you misunderstood me. I said that sanity was underrated.

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Ha, I think Neptune might be at play here, because I read it as 'Sanity is overrated' the first time, too!

Not enough sanity in the world at the moment, I feel. Lots of WTF  moments. I can often be found muttering 'world's gone mad'. In my case, this is Uranus, messing with everything I *thought* I knew.

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I agree Elsa, sanity is underrated and insanity is celebrated. Everything is upside down. Our media and leaders drive the insanity at every level of our society in an orchestrated effort. I don't listen to any of them and that's how I keep my sanity. Its too much of a shitshow.

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It's occurring to me this morning, you just have to ignore the demons and go about your day.  This works really well.

The challenge is in learning to id a demon. This is not easy!  But there is a code and once you crack it, you can get yourself free.

I think this is a Saturn Uranus this, oddly.  If you won't do the work or face your fear, you get to be oppressed.

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@elsa I completely agree about the Saturn-Uranus thing. It occurred to me sometime this summer that our windows to do the right thing, and achieve long term goals (Saturn), are actually split-second opportunities (Uranus). It's a cumulative effect of these little lightning-fast good decisions, that make people healthy and successful in life. It's not like one big important decision that gets people to where they want to be. Generally speaking, if you don't grab onto that moment of good conscience and go with the right course of action, the demons will interfere almost immediately and then you have problems. I'm not saying to act impulsively, but to really get familiar with the things that pop up in your mind, and learn to suss out what's authentic and what's conditioning. Then trust the parts that are true and just go with it, instead of avoiding the work and trying to control others/your environment. This notion has been helpful for me, and I thought it was interesting connection between Saturn and Uranus. I have both planets in Sadge/6th house, opposite Mars!

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@cocopeaches  very thought provoking, thanks for this perspective.

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@elsa I agree, I think you're onto something! I have that Saturn Uranus aspect natally. Uranus sextiles Saturn and Mars which are closely conjunct in my 8th House. That House of pathology, and deep murk is always a potential 'target' for getting out of the s*hit and relates to Health (Uranus in the 6th Gemini). 

I'm there now, dealing with virus and my choice to do the identifying the demons by using my internal magicians rather than be the stick to "do something" for me. I have too many genetic memories about invaders "doing something" for me. 

The work is tuff stuff, exhausting, and situational. I have to face my fears and the fact I might be the odd one out, again. But as you put it, the good thing is I'm not oppressed ... but exhaustion is a cost to learn from. And make sane choices that soothe. Could be my natal transit code: Uranus transiting closes in on my North Node when he finally goes forward.

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