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Pluto in Aquarius - the end of Free will? What can we do to save humanity?

Eleanor D
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This thread is for those of us here wishing to share insights and info on how we can begin to fight back against the greatest threat the human race has ever encountered. If you're not into this line of thinking, that's fine, but be aware this conversation is for those who share these concerns and want to do something about it.

I've started this in response to Elsa's 'Pluto in Aquarius - The Future' thread which began with a vid starkly laying out the path before us. To sum in a nutshell - a group of shadowy people who are often referred to as the new world order but the author of the video referred to calls 'Mr. Global' - are well on their way to turning us all into some form of techno-slavery. There are quite a few of us on this forum who are alarmed at what we see as the very essence of what it is to be human under grave threat. If you haven't already seen it, the video embedded in Elsa's opening post explains very succinctly how all this came about and the likely outcome if we don't act right now. I replied on page 3 of the thread and asked Elsa if a 'Solutions to Mr. Global' conversation might be an idea. She said yes, but no links - we're smart people and she just wants YOUR input, not some regurgitated stuff. Well, we can do that, can't we?

So - what CAN we do, right now, to keep the world and everyone in it from entering an inescapable techno nightmare?

I welcome your ideas and good common sense.

 

I'll just throw these out here as potential topics for discussion:

 

Are we giving our consent for the very things that enslave us? If so, how do we withdraw that consent?

 

Humans were meant to have free will - how can we hang onto that?

 

Can we claw back the 3D life that was taken away from us and replaced with a 2D facsimile?

 

Staying strong - how are you looking after your mental and physical health?

 

How can we help our children? Our loved ones?

 

Is moving closer to nature an important step in the right direction?

 

Are there any spiritual actions we can take to protect ourselves or halt this process?

 

Over to you!

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Posted by: @eleanor-d

This thread is for those of us here wishing to share insights and info on how we can begin to fight back against the greatest threat the human race has ever encountered. If you're not into this line of thinking, that's fine, but be aware this conversation is for those who share these concerns and want to do something about it.

I've started this in response to Elsa's 'Pluto in Aquarius - The Future' thread which began with a vid starkly laying out the path before us. To sum in a nutshell - a group of shadowy people who are often referred to as the new world order but the author of the video referred to calls 'Mr. Global' - are well on their way to turning us all into some form of techno-slavery. There are quite a few of us on this forum who are alarmed at what we see as the very essence of what it is to be human under grave threat. If you haven't already seen it, the video embedded in Elsa's opening post explains very succinctly how all this came about and the likely outcome if we don't act right now. I replied on page 3 of the thread and asked Elsa if a 'Solutions to Mr. Global' conversation might be an idea. She said yes, but no links - we're smart people and she just wants YOUR input, not some regurgitated stuff. Well, we can do that, can't we?

So - what CAN we do, right now, to keep the world and everyone in it from entering an inescapable techno nightmare?

I welcome your ideas and good common sense.

 

 

I like the way you write. Like you are letting me in on a secret society or something. Nonoise Smile  

 

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@gemster

Shhh... you'll get the secret password and funny handshake lessons later....  ? 

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Here's the video referenced:

https://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/lounge/pluto-in-aquarius-the-future/

Posted by: @eleanor-d

Are we giving our consent for the very things that enslave us? If so, how do we withdraw that consent?

 

Humans were meant to have free will - how can we hang onto that?

 

Can we claw back the 3D life that was taken away from us and replaced with a 2D facsimile?

 

Staying strong - how are you looking after your mental and physical health?

 

How can we help our children? Our loved ones?

 

Is moving closer to nature an important step in the right direction?

 

Are there any spiritual actions we can take to protect ourselves or halt this process?

Addressing these questions...

Our free will is a God-given. So it's there. You just have to exercise it. 

I don't think it helps to be defeatist. I do think it make sense to get in shape.. physically, spiritually, mentally. None of us are lost. 

It's hard to address this except in the broadest terms because everyone is starting (or continuing) from wherever they stand today.

It might help to recognize who you give your power or energy to.  What are you consuming - food, media (visual), intellectual? What has your attention or inattention cost you?

"Clawing your way back" seems an appropriate way to put it. That's what I'm doing. It's my heart and mind and soul. No one is going to fix my internal problems for me.

I already garden and stay connected to neighbors. I leave my cell phone in my car. I try to use it, rather than be used by it.  

I seek information from unconventional sources. First-hand accounts are best. I'm lucky because this job puts me in touch with people around the world who are real, as we work together.  

Right now, I am studying a specific area that's relevant to my work. I do feel astrology is true calling. I have certain gifts and I am trying to develop and maintain them; get fully on track so I can help other people get on track with their lives.

I am not afraid but I have a sense of urgency. I'm a person who generally has the keys people are looking for. I need to keep this up.

I feel I need to maintain my integrity, the best I can, regardless what evil swirls around. One of the main tactics here, is to drive people apart. I try to drive them together - support their relationships. I'm good at this but getter better, as I come to better understand the machinations that have taken place and put us all in this predicament. 

Thanks for the thread. 

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I do feel that, as a relatively young person (mid-30's) with no dependents, I need to be able to pave a way forward and build a career somehow while keeping a firm grip on my "humanity". This is so I can understand how it can be done, so I can tell other people.

This includes not participating on Facebook or Twitter, not using dating apps, and trying to understand and build new human relationships without relying on text or Instagram likes (those are not "real" relationships). I have been telling my friends that many current relationships are being degraded, because they are substituting likes and posts for real communication. Phone is acceptable, because you can hear the person's voice on the other end.

A recent book I read, Digital Minimalism, was really great in that it had lots of information about how humans need human-to-human interaction, and our mental health degrades if we don't get it. Also, we need hobbies ... real hobbies, that use our hands to do. There's a distinct lack of hand-to-brain activities (video games don't count) that humans participate in. This lack also hurts our brains: we were made to do stuff with our hands, and when we don't do them, we progress less. I wonder if this is also why we sometimes think of our best ideas in the shower? We're using our hands to clean ourselves, lol ... often without distraction like podcasts, music, etc.

For instance, once I read this book, it made total sense to me that cooking was such a relaxing and fun activity for me. The act of cooking was often more rewarding than the actual eating part.

Humans need to remember how to be human again ... I think if they understand the rewards that come with being human, they'll be more likely to change. Reward is more compelling than fear, I'd say.

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Thanks for sharing this SP. I especially liked this bit:

A recent book I read, Digital Minimalism, was really great in that it had lots of information about how humans need human-to-human interaction, and our mental health degrades if we don't get it. Also, we need hobbies ... real hobbies, that use our hands to do.

It has occurred to me that with the advent of social networking, so may of us have stopped having real relationships. But even more so, we have stopped creating. Every hour spent online is an hour in which we pour our energy in, usually without getting much if anything out. We half-heartedly listen to music instead of making our own, we exchange recipes instead of actually cooking, we post poems instead of composing one instead... 'likes' replace conversation, a smile, or that light touch on the shoulder that says 'I'm here. I see and appreciate you. I'm listening.'

I want my 3D world back. 2D doesn't do it for me. I crave and I need reality, in all its richness, all its splendour, good or bad. I must have a world which I can touch, smell, taste, hear and see. One in which the subtle energies waft through and around me. I will never, ever accept a flat screen with hollow sound as a replacement.

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@piya sounds like you're finding your way.

This whole lockdown didn't bother me until the cold weather came which has kept indoors (lupus).  Otherwise there is always, always something (garden) to do.  And there are always people who want fresh veggies! 

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How can we help our children? Our loved ones?

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This is hard to do. My kids are in their 20's. I've taught them everything I possibly could. At this point they want to find their own way which seems good and right and normal.

On my end, I have spent a lot of time trying to comprehend the actual fact, both kids grew up "wired".  They are not ever going to be like me.

The other day, I recalled when I found out neither of them knew how to dial a phone!  We had this fancy sort of novelty phone, mounted on the wall in our kitchen.

phone

They grew up with this! We had cordless phones, of course.  But that thing would ring and we would talk on it.  It never occurred to they did not know how to dial it. But sure enough, I asked my daughter to call someone in it... something like that.  She went over and tried to push the buttons. I thought I was going to die.

I then had them try to figure it out, but they could not. I mean, they would never have thought to stab their finger in the center of a hole and drag the dial around.  And it was easy to see why! Does that dial look like it moves??

Point here is you just can't be mad that a person doesn't know what you do, especially now. We are shown different things at different times.  So I think you have to raise YOUR OWN level of intelligence in order to do anything effectively these days.

I've tried set an example. I talk to my kids, straight. I have never told either of them a single lie.  I guess if they are swimming up the wrong stream, when they become disillusioned, they'll know where to find someone they can trust.

There is a gigantic effort to turn kids against their parents and vice versa. Really, it's just divide, divide, divide, divide. I hate that but my kids are adults now. I just have to have faith they find their way in life. I never told either of them that life was easy so they're somewhat prepared with that alone.  What do they say? Knocked down ten times, get up eleven!

One of the main things people need is hope.  And a parent's confidence in you is valuable too. If your mom says you can do it, you go off thinking you can do it and chances are, you can!

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@piya Yes- creating instead of just consuming!

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Thank you for this topic Eleanor. I appreciate you?

So my thoughts are about the importance of connecting with Earth, Nature and God and coming back to the innerstanding that they are the authorities (although authority is actually not the right word technically) and that ALL resources come from them. Humans do not have natural authority over these things. The powers that be would have us think that we can’t survive without them. I questioned that deeply and found that I’m nourished in every way by Nature, including spiritually. The system offers NOTHING spiritually-it offers pills. And what it does offer in the way of resources is profane, and by that I mean, not sacred. Tainted food, tainted water, tainted ideas. So basically- come back to Nature. Nature is everywhere. Astrology is Nature. The Sun and the Moon’s cycles.

And Nature is Sovereignty. The word Sovereignty guides me. The system is based on codependent principles and personal sovereignty is the answer. That means that one has a direct relationship and responsibility for their thoughts, actions and personal well-being (to the extent that physical well being is granted to us by the Earth- our emotional well being is ALWAYS our domain). 

I think if I had to give a tip to someone who is attempting to disengage psychically from this mess (and that’s really the only engagement that is necessary for this plan to work. All they need is our minds) is to beware of dogmatic social theories. This is kind of hard to explain, but basically it’s like all these cults are popping up. They seem opposed in ideology but they all serve to blind the personal part of oneself that makes decisions, is Freewill. Basically, if your thought processes have an -ism at the end- pick it apart, question it, put it under fire, see what remains. There’s truth kn all the -ism’s but a lot of bullshit. You don’t need someone else to do your thinking for you. Plug back in with Self. The answer is not outside. 

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@libra-noir

You wrote:

'The word Sovereignty guides me. The system is based on codependent principles and personal sovereignty is the answer. That means that one has a direct relationship and responsibility for their thoughts, actions and personal well-being (to the extent that physical well being is granted to us by the Earth- our emotional well being is ALWAYS our domain).'

Powerful stuff, LN.  Thank you.

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This is so interesting. On the other thread I said to learn skills, do human things, just as everyone is saying here, so I won't repeat myself.

But I would like to add that we are not alone. It can feel that way when you see a scary headline, or are alone at home, forgetting that there are others out there who will be happy to walk with you towards a better future - there really is a large number of us who aren't interested in taking a certain path, and we need to be together. If we want to save humanity, we need to make and strengthen relationships. Help each other out, for nothing, just because. I think of the Amish as an example. You can't break them.

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In a way it's no more complicated then it ever was. Take care your soul.

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