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Neptune: Do you feel bad for people who deceive themselves?
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It’s like they deny there’s a cliff a few miles ahead of them, then they drive off the cliff due their denial. And then you’re supposed to feel sorry for them? How much denial can you take? How much is too much for your taste? Do you feel sorry when someone ‘drives off the cliff’, but the cliff was in front of them (blatantly, obviously, a normal person would see it ahead of them) all along?

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I do feel sorry for them. There seems to be no end for me on this front. It holds true even if I am the person harmed by their denial.
I’d give this to Venus Neptune in my chart, but my Capricorn as well. Because I do think the veil lifts eventually and the pain… well, my chest hurts just thinking about it.

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It’s definitely not a black and white thing for me. If I find out someone was kicked in the stomach 2,000 times during their childhood, I’m going to assume that they’re a bit warped by those experiences! I might not be their friend anymore after a few chances from their denials, but I’ll sympathize…..from far away, if that person’s denial (s) hurts me!

If I view someone as a selfish brat and their denial hurts me, then that’s a whole other lane! blush popcorn_gif popcorn_gif

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Friday, March 8, 2019 - 5:45 pm
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Oops, the denial (s) should be denials.

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It can be super annoying when it happens again and again, but then we have to try to remember that this is their reality at the time. Not that it excuses them but, it’s similar to the way we each see our reality. 

But I get what your saying. I hope I’m never like that but maybe it could be a struggle some day 🤷🏻‍♀️ I have Capricorn, too so things can be like a blunt force object. But I also have Pisces in the 7H so it can be dicey, I think. (⬅️ nebulous. haha)

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We’re all like that sometimes! angel

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It’s too much for me when I hear someone chastise a quality or a person, all the while not realizing that they are guilty of exactly what they are annoyed with. And I’m sure I’ve done just that thing.

I think humans tend dislike in others what they have a hard time seeing in themselves. I try to be less concrete/one sided in my opinions because of this. Humans are fallible, every one of us. 

“First, remove the log out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother’s eye.”

Matthew 7:5

I feel for people when I see what you’re describing, and know that I am probably just as susceptible, though it could look different to me. I try not to pity though, as “pity” tends to carry a connotation of arrogance. It could be you today, and me tomorrow. 

Also, I don’t know that normal applies to any human. Normal to whom? You, me, them over there…?

I think there are experiences that are pretty normal to the human condition, though. Occasionally driving off cliffs we don’t see being one of them. So I guess I have a high tolerance to not judge the path others are on, though I may remove myself. Arrogance, though…that’s the thing that grinds my gears, in others, and especially myself.

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I dont feel sorry for people ever, because I know that we all have access to the same power, so no to that. And in general I dont try to stand in anyones way of rectifying their karma, unless destiny puts me in the way to say something. I dont go out of my way to “save” someone, because theres nothing to be saved from. All roads lead to the same place. Who am I to say that jumping off a cliff is exactly what their soul needs. 

The times that I will be in a position to say something, like Ive jumped off that particular cliff, and this person is asking for advice, I say it once. But mostly I just keep my eyes on where Im walking on my path. 

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I feel sorry for myself when I do it 🙂

I absolutely can feel bad for others there isn’t anything much worse than deep disappointment from Neptune. Look it’s what you always wanted….jerks it away. It’s cruel I don’t care if I get smacked down for typing it.

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 11:03 am
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nice. lol i also feel sorry for myself when i do it. If it were me, i would want a patient someone to just understand my dilemma and be there with me on and off (because i know it can be horrible to be around) although i really like neptune though, it saves lives too. the other side of the sphere, it can be too stressful in life, so neptune can really bring some bloom while the other side is more doom. ;p

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Wednesday, March 13, 2019 - 7:16 pm
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No doubt for me – Neptune does at times bring beautiful blossoms, unexpected & even… “undeserved.”  (Aka, blessings)

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Yes, I do. I’ve spent a great deal of my life doing just that (Mars 12/Neptune 1)! I’d like to think I’m freeing myself up from this state of delusion. I’ve mentioned it before, I used to think I was a ‘good’ person due my intentions, when my actions were quite clearly very detrimental and harmful to the people in my life. I remember stealing money from someone then playing good samaritan by giving the $ that didn’t belong to me to a perfect stranger! 

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I don’t feel too sorry for them because deep inside they know the truth but they’re running from it. Their actions make life harder on everyone else who actually has their shit together but have to put up with them.

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Friday, March 8, 2019 - 10:05 pm
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Yup, on some instances, I will give them some flex room. Maybe they just lost a loved one, like a spouse, and they’re not ready to ground themselves yet.

But I’d say there are a good percentage, or chunk, of situations, where someone’s irresponsibility and/or carelessness is their fault, and if they hurt me, their own child, and too many people, then there’s a strong possibility there’s a problem.

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Monday, March 11, 2019 - 7:44 am
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I feel sorry for them when they dive off a cliff (or hit a wall).

Also I might deceive myself too, so maybe I’m not in a good position to judge anyone who is doing that.

Other than that, I don’t feel sorry for them the rest of the time. I suppose it’s a mechanism to avoid pain & most people don’t want to face that, so that behavior is understandable.

But when the sh*t hits the fan, what can you say??? Not much. There is a logic to the whole thing that is difficult (or impossible?) to avoid.

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