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JoFrance
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My husband's family keeps pressuring us to go down to visit in SC.  His mother is 90 years old and they just took her out of the nursing home and brought her home.  She wasn't doing well there but is doing much better now at home.

We don't want to travel there right now.  They don't wear masks and aren't concerned about the virus.  They really don't understand why we don't want to go and I think its unfair to not consider how we feel about the virus.  No one really knows if they're carrying it or not and really, even if we know most people recover if they get it, its not enough for me to chance it.

I told my husband he can go if he wants, but I'm not going with him.  He said he doesn't want to go either.

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@jofrance If you don't feel safe going, don't go. You have to do what's best for and your husband.  I know, as a Southerner, that family is a big deal down here, pandemic be damned. But his relatives are going to have to bend a little. At least they could consider meeting outside, maybe get a fire pit and sit chairs some distance apart? My family's likely doing that since my parents have health issues. If they don't care at all, I'd stay away, even if they get hard feelings over it.

The holidays are going to be tricky for a lot of people who are trying to be cautious. I'm a bit nervous about them because my housemate has a daughter who is over the whole thing and could care less if she catches it! I hope they don't bring a lot of people over. Her mom is already traveling frequently out of state (I guess to keep her busy). Seems like everybody and their brother is constantly traveling somewhere right now. 

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I agree with NMC. Family should understand.  I’ll share what we are up to. 

My siblings have agreed to not have holiday meetings this year. We hope to live until the spring!  We are all over 59 years old, some of us have issues, etc.  We live in four different areas in two different states. My husband has also decided to not travel to his family’s area over the holidays. 

When I contacted my siblings, we found out one brother and his wife are under quarantine from exposure from his barber. He and his wife tested negative at 7 days from exposure. Fingers crossed they will still be negative on the next test. She is on chemo, and did not have direct exposure. 

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@jofrance I don't know, she's 90. How long does she have left? What if he never sees her again? What if she needs him right now? I don't know the details, but if the family is asking you to come, maybe think about it a little more. I don't know what I'd do if I didn't see my mother when she needed me. I would regret it forever. You can take so many precautions to block transmission.

Either way, of course you should do what you feel is best. I just can't help but point out that a 90 year old mother is a rare thing, and you only get 1 mother at all. I hope she continues to do well at home, and maybe that your husband gets to see her at some point. ❤️ 

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@dolce, I know my MIL doesn't have long left to live, but she is doing okay now.  Most of his family is there with her and if he wants to go, he will whether I do or not.  His family doesn't take the virus seriously and that's a real concern for both of us.  We're older people and his family is a very close knit Italian family.  I think they're smothering in a lot of ways.  If you go there, you never have a moment alone.

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Our school is still operating with a hybrid attendance plan with half the kids in one day and the other half in the next day. We have had a few people contracting the virus and more are expected.

We were going to discuss going back 100% at the last board of ed. meeting but they changed their mind with the new cases. Our closest neighboring town has been designated "red" for virus spread and we will be next, probably. That means we will most likely be going full distance learning by early winter. My lunar return chart for the time has a fourth house (home) focus Smile

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Looks like they're getting ready to lock us all down again here in the UK, essential shopping only, but schools open. Boris is due to give us details at 4PM. The papers are saying this is expected to last until 1st December. My guess is, they'll keep us under lock and key until sometime just before Christmas, let us out briefly, then slam the door shut again until April. We've been pretty lucky in my area. Virus cases are very low and we've had restrictions which I hate but fewer than other parts of the country.

I was reading some Tory insider blog back in July, I think, which revealed that a lockdown was planned for Autumn-end of March, partly due to an expect virus second wave, but perhaps more importantly due to anticipated civil unrest caused by port and other trade blockades by France and the EU as a result of Brexit. This seemed to tally with a tarot spread I did back in February for this period, asking what the British people would be experiencing during this time. The cards showed that from Autumn to late Spring, the UK would be subject to tremendous blockages, stemming from multiple sources. It clearly showed everything coming to a standstill - all travel, commerce and interaction stopped dead. Betrayal, conflict stopping short of war, bad faith, cessation of trade. There was a strong element of water - which I took to be a naval blockade (probably the French) and also the virus. Every single card - save the last - indicated a 'stuck fast' sort of energy. The last card, thankfully, was the Chariot - freedom.

 

 

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First hint of a lockdown-like restrictions in my country...though we don't do something as barbaric as fines or jailing people who don't follow them. Everyone willingly complies. Cases are back to spring levels after dwindling almost to nothing during the summer.

I am hoping to go back to my home country for Christmas. So, please pray that air routes remain open. I have not seen my family since March and have been living alone in great grief for many months. I NEED to hug my mother.

I was very sick last month and thought I had Corona. The antibody test was disappointing. None... I can't wait for the vaccine. It seems my country's offical vaccine-hope pharma company says that they have finished stage 3 trials with 10000 people and could be ready with millions of kits by March. 

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Could you quickly visit them in the next weeks instead of wait till Christmas?

If your country is showing lockdown-like restrictions (like England more than a month ago) I'm not sure a lockdown will not take place in the next month or so. 

Germany's starting a lockdown on Monday...

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@cris Unfortunately not. I need to take the possession of my new apartment here, and I need time for a potential 2 week hotel-quarantine after landing in my home country. I can only go after first week December. :-/

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I understand :-/

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England will go into lockdown on Thursday for at least a month.

Numbers don't look good. I'm sure it's more than a 4-week lockdown in the end. 

I'm not surprised. What a difficult time for all countries in the world.

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@cris

Here's my take on the continuing situation in the UK, courtesy of Coppola's monumental 1979 film 'Apocalypse Now'. In this scene, Marlon Brando plays Boris Johnson, speaking to the British people:

Boris: 'Are my methods unsound?'

Lockdown-traumatised Brits: 'I don't see any method at all, sir.'

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