Are we living on th...
 
Notifications
Clear all

Are we living on the eve of a civil war?  

Page 2 / 4

Sue Ellen
Posts: 471
Registered
Reputable Member
Joined: 12 years ago

I think the odds are higher than they have been in many years. I am thinking of the many armed militias.  Back in the spring of this year, my governor’s effigy was hung on the governor’s mansion grounds. It was over the Covid lock-down. People needed to work to make a living. 

People are polarized on many, many issues in the USA. The lockdowns are bringing tensions to a head. 

There are such stark differences in what news is broadcast in this country. News outlets live based on ratings, so whatever gets up the ratings goes out on the airwaves.  Coverage on the ongoing social unrest is just one example. People tend to watch whichever news outlet that reinforces their beliefs. 

I don’t want to see bloodshed, actual war. We have discussed the possibility in my home. We see the possibility, but hope against it. 

I vote 40% there will be a civil war. The national election will be the trigger. 

Reply
strawb.
Posts: 988
Registered
Prominent Member
Joined: 10 years ago

"...if they will give them a chance" exactly. 

People seem to have forgotten that you can disagree with someone without hatred, and still respect their right to have their own opinion. The media incites a lot of this division and intolerance by encouraging and normalizing that kind of behaviour.

Sometimes I think middle American isn't as divided as the media makes it out to be. We  probably agree on a lot more (important) issues than we disagree on, and a lot of this division wouldn't be so bad if the government and media would butt out more and stop hyper politicizing certain issues that they could just stay out of instead and let self govern on a more local/personal level. But instead every year the control just gets worse.

Reply
Space Cadet
Posts: 183
Registered
Estimable Member
Joined: 9 months ago

No, I don't think so.

Reply
Eleanor D
Posts: 136
Registered
Estimable Member
Joined: 6 months ago

Sadly, I would say that's a yes. But I agree with LN. These things don't usually happen at the snap of one's fingers. The dominoes stack slowly, incrementally, over time. Then someone pushes one over... The dominoes are about to fall. Not just in the U.S., but everywhere. America was the linchpin of the entire modern Western civilisation. I hate to use the past tense, but that's how I see it.

Reply
Justin
Posts: 397
Reputable Member
Joined: 1 month ago

"The media incites a lot of this division and intolerance by encouraging and normalizing that kind of behaviour" @strawb

As a fervent and unashamed Americaphile, I totally agree with Strawb's observation. So much so that this risked turning into a full on lengthy rant.

Impartiality in the news is all but dead now, replaced with carefully selected, talking head view points that are no more than propaganda pieces straight out of Goebbel's playbook... on a global level! That, alone, should really ring alarm bells in most sane folk. It doesn't matter if it's the US, the UK, Europe or Australia, they all follow the same narrative.

I put the odds of a civil war at 60/40 too.

I genuinely believe that the fate of the whole of the western world rests on this election. I don't actually believe it's a battle between the left and right any longer. I genuinely love people of varying political beliefs, opinions and lifestyles, but I have all too often found myself on the receiving end of vitreolic rants from highly opinionated, ill educated, virtue signalling extremists who've never done a single charitable thing in their entire lives. Why would they have to, isn't claiming how much they care more than enough?

The media and entrenched political establishments of last 30 years have certainly done a Class A job of dividing the public who would otherwise be tolerant of one another's differences of opinion and political beliefs. I really do feel that this election is more about the dark versus light though, and a critical juncture in our collective history. History is replete with examples of the type of modus operandi we are witnessing now and we risk sleep walking into an Aldous Huxley inspired dystopia if we're not careful. In addition to oppression, in the form of public shaming and humiliation, division in the form of identity politics, sedation is another tool being used against the masses, in the form of 24 hour news, banal reality TV and the promise of "celebrity".

I truly, dearly, and deeply love America, it's culture and it's varied people. I really hope they will make the right choice that ensures the survival of its great Constitution, and indeed the rest of the western world.

I do feel it's that big a deal, and that the fate of many of us rests in your hands at this election. Time will only tell if these words are prophetic or not.

Reply
Osiris Wife
Posts: 1932
Registered
Noble Member
Joined: 2 years ago

No.

Currently, there is a monstrous (Jupiter) amount of fear (Saturn) of death (Pluto) from war (Mars about to go direct). Mercury in Scorpio and now Rx in Libra doesn't help either with conflicting news - mostly morbid news.

I'm curious how the different generations would respond to this question. I suspect boomers who lived through post WWII and other wars are reliving past trauma or memories and projecting those fears to present day. 

Reply
1 Reply
Justin
Joined: 1 month ago

Reputable Member
Posts: 397

@osiris-wife I do so hope you are right Smile I've seen quality of life where I live degrade markedly over the last 10 years or so, but not in an overtly existential way. First world problems, as I see and understand them, are given far too much attention at the expense of issues that really do matter. As much as I can be certain, I feel sure we are about to turn a corner. I just hope it will be achieved peacefully. Sadly, when fundamental change is required, there's always a cost associated with it. It always seems to have been the way of things. 🙁

Reply
Page 2 / 4

Leave a reply

Author Name

Author Email

Title *

Maximum allowed file size is 2MB

 
Preview 0 Revisions Saved