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Gotta say..... I agree with most of what you wrote, Candela.

In this last election, what is being discovered is this: Trump was elected by people who had never / rarely voted. The "disgusted by politics Never Voter". I suspect these voters will show up again if it appears that an organized attempt is made to "revert" US Laws / Policies back to pre-Trump presidency".

If "undocumented workers" ((Visa over-stays, parents of "anchor babies", outright border-jumpers, etc.)) had never crossed into every state and taken over as many jobs as it has been proven........ most Americans would never had know just how prevalent this problem was. In 2006 in Illinois most people had no idea that there was a large population of "undocumented workers" in their mist. By 2016 it was practically on the Tv / Radio stories of some group nearby who INS / DHS had taken into custody. What a difference 10yrs makes.

"Never Voters" simply found themselves being affected by uncontrolled Immigration...... and they must have concluded the "right-wing fanatics" weren't "crying wolf". I suppose now the race is on...... can the Mexican citizens act quickly enough to get Californians ((aka: as many of their fellow Hispanic brothers and sisters)) to vote on "California Secession" ((aka: return back to Mexico this stolen land from 1848)).

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President Trump...... please step-up these Immigration raids. Visa over-stays, parents of anchor babies, outright border-jumpers, etc. Get them all. Remove the "anchor babies" as well...... I'm pretty darn sure Mexico would do likewise.

*sigh* If only we could remove Americans who repeatedly vote in favor of Undocumented Workers.

If it were up to me, I'd put the US Military on the Border with standing orders to "shoot to kill". While this is not typical American Tradition ((aka; breaking from Due Process of Law))...... I think the "Never Voters" will approve.

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"Never Voters" simply found themselves being affected by uncontrolled Immigration...... and they must have concluded the "right-wing fanatics" weren't "crying wolf". I suppose now the race is on...... can the Mexican citizens act quickly enough to get Californians ((aka: as many of their fellow Hispanic brothers and sisters)) to vote on "California Secession" ((aka: return back to Mexico this stolen land from 1848)).

I thought Caliexit was financed by Putin, just like about any  scissionist group in Europe. Putin wants a weaker EU and a weaker US. Nothing would make The US weaker than a California Secession. California alone would be the 6th largest economy in The World, and The US would basically loose all the big harbours plus an possibly the most important Naval Base in The World.

Russia is on the move. I guess that it's easier to concentrate on Mexicans or Central Americans as a threat, when one likely see them and hear them every day. But the fact is, this is the story you should be concentrating on. MAGA Administration having been, and very likely still being, infiltrated by people who are hired by a Foreign Government that simply does not have this in his best interest.

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Also, on the news today: Majority Leader Mitch McConnell said that it's highly likely there will be an investigation on Flynn. I'm not counting out the possibility there will be further evidence on Trump's Russian ties. Anyhow, the voices on Trump knowing about Flynn and still appointed him as a National Security Consellor should concern every Republican, because this is either a sign of complete lack of judgement or President Trump being in to this, up to his neck.

My guess is President Trump knew, and his Inauguration Speech was pre-emptive. He knew - most likely was explained by someone -  there's a fair possibilty Wshington DC would tun on him, including his own party. Better to tell the base most people at Congress wouldn't survive the first week working on one of his organizations.

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I doubt we are getting the full story about Flynn's resignation. He discussed ''sanctions" with Russia.... okay? 

There were some really weird tweets referring to Comet-Pizza and the Pizzagate scandal after this news was announced and included Clinton herself.

Clinton and former aide Philippe Reines gloated over fellow Democrat Michael Flynn‘s resignation as national security advisor.

“Dear Mike Flynn & Mike Flynn Jr, What goes around COMETS around. And given your pizza obsession,” Reines tweeted, along with a link to a Dominos Pizza job listing.

Clinton piled on with her own tweet: “Philippe’s got his own way of saying things, but he has a point about the real consequences of fake news.”

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Sound like payback or something. Either way, weird. 

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Clinton should be the last person making any Public Comments...... considering the investigation into her scandals as well as the Clinton Foundation is still ongoing.

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General Flynn said he discussed the expulsion of the 35 Russian diplomats by Obama before he left office.  Who knows, but whatever he did was enough for him to resign, or maybe, be fired.  We'll never know the truth.

Hillary Clinton should just go away and count her blessings that maybe her golden years won't be behind bars.

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General Flynn said he discussed the expulsion of the 35 Russian diplomats by Obama before he left office.  Who knows, but whatever he did was enough for him to resign, or maybe, be fired.  We'll never know the truth.

Hillary Clinton should just go away and count her blessings that maybe her golden years won't be behind bars.  

So, this is the angle alt-right media is taking on the issue. Good to know, since I do not have time to follow it all. But, mark my words, there are people in your Government who know the exact content of that phone call. Your Intelligence Community listens to and records all phonecalls by foreign diplomats at least from countries of interest. This is routine intelligence, done by all Nations with resources to do so, diplomats know it, people working in Intelligence know it. It will be opened, at least, in an Intelligence Commitee hearing on Michael Flynn, that will, very likely, lead to a trial.

I think the only real question here at this point is whether Michael Flynn will be just "Oliver Northed" (yes, remember when your Republican Government sold arms to Iran in order to back a Fascist guerilla movement?) or if this will bring down other people.

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And I really can't believe none of you Trump people or Conservatives in general seem to be the tiniest bit concerned about a fact there might have been a person passing your National Security Briefings directly to the only other entity in The World which has the capacity of completely annihilate your country with weapons of mass destruction. You seem to be amazingly worried about women and children fleeing from warzones or from gang violence turning into terrorists in your country.

But you don't seem to worry a bit about the possibility that for 2 months there's been someone working for the Russians hearing Daily National Security briefings his Boss doesn't bother to attend. This person may have been giving vital information on your Military working in areas your countries have conflicting interests, such as Baltics, Eastern Central Europe and Middle East - Russians have never been friends of Israel, and are growing very close to Iran -, basically those areas through which about 90 per cent of the oil in The World is piped and transported. His actions may have at least partially lead to Russia defying a Intermediate Nuclear-Forces Treaty of 1987 (remember when that was signed? I do, even if I was only 10 at time, it was such a huge relief for Europeans back in the day), something that was reported yesterday, too:

http://www.reuters.com/article.....SKBN15T2CS

He may have been the person who counselled Trump to go ahead with that Yemeni airstrike, it would only be logical since there really aren't that many Military people advicing Trump on daily bases, that killed some of your own troops, and if so, and this may have been the last straw for Trump.

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Clinton should be the last person making any Public Comments...... considering the investigation into her scandals as well as the Clinton Foundation is still ongoing.  

It's not stylish, and has actually diverted Conservatives from truly looking at what's going on their backyard, because of she is deeply hated among the crowd, but it's understandable, given the situation. Flynn is the guy who chanted "Lock Her Up" in Trump rallies. Flynn's Russian ties were a concern even back then, he was an RT commentator, even sat next to Putin on a dinner in that capacity, and it's pretty obvious RT has been used by Russians to pay informants and influencers - mind you, I don't think all RT commentators are that, but there's a pattern.  And, if WH staff is frustrated enough with the situation to talk about this to The Press - and I think leaks must be mainly true, given President Trump's reaction -, imagine what's discussed among Washington "insiders". I think she has pretty good information on what's coming. So, I can see why she'd feel some Schadesfraude here.

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Another thing. Notice how WH, with the voice of Press Secretary Spicer, gave "lying to The Vice President" as the ultimate reason for Flynn being made to resign. Not "lying to The President". Why would they say that? I have two explanations.

1) Because high up GOP exponents know that The President knew about Flynn, and they think they may not be able to save him from something that would make Watergate look pale in comparison.

2) It was a meant to tell that they are now in control. President Trump showed serious lack of judgement by appointing General Flynn. He continued doing so discussing matters of National Security while diners at Mar-A-Lago took pictures of the table. He has been put in line by telling they will remove their support as soon as Donnie crosses the line next time by having him 25thed, impeached, what ever. They can control The President, possibly make him ditch Bannon, who I doubt is very well liked, either.

I guess I should see the last Weekend's Full Moon Chart for Palm Beach, Florida. Because this is what set everything in motion.

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I think even more alarming is Trump not speaking on Flynn's resignation, Fox news totally brushing this story off. 

This man is a trickster and a gaslighter! How can he discredit all news outlets CNN MSNBC even NY times everyone is wrong except Fox??!! 

 

Trump supporters are being blindsided here

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General Flynn did nothing prosecutable in talking with Russia.  He did nothing to the president, but didn't tell the whole truth about his conversations with Russia to VP Mike Pence.  Mike Pence defended General Flynn and said there were no conversations about the sanctions, only to find out there were.  Trump values loyalty and felt he couldn't trust him after that.  Its totally understandable.

Trump called Flynn a good man unfairly treated by the media.  CNN, MSNBC and NY Times hate Trump, so their news about him and anyone connected to him is all negative and biased all the time.  Fox News got it right, but aside from them, many other internet news sites also reported it honestly.

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And I really can't believe none of you Trump people or Conservatives in general seem to be the tiniest bit concerned about a fact there might have been a person passing your National Security Briefings directly to the only other entity in The World which has the capacity of completely annihilate your country with weapons of mass destruction.

Us Trump people were really concerned about Hillary Clinton's private email server and how it was hacked by many other countries and how her emails ended up on pedophile Anthony Weiner's laptop.  There is zero evidence that General Flynn passed any information to foreign governments. 

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Candela, at this stage, what you mentioned is highly hypothetical. If they had the means to accuse Flynn of all of that, I am pretty sure they would be ALL over it and it would be front page news, knowing how much they hate Trump and his administration. 

All this started from the ''Russia hacked the US election'' allegation which has yet to even be proven. Flynn talked about the sanctions (like Obama expelling the diplomats as a result of his hacking allegation) with the Russian ambassador to the US. What if he was just discussing not retaliating and starting a war over these sanctions? What if the conversation was harmless? All this was even before Trump's inauguration. It's not like it was a secret that these sanctions happened. His biggest mistake was that he misled Pence about having such a discussion by giving an ''incomplete'' account of his conversation, if we go off of the official story, and this ended up looking bad for all of them because of the contradictory accounts that happened as a result. Fair enough, this is why he resigned. He paid for the mistake. Unless they prove something more /worse happened, I am not going to get hysterical over it. If he really did do something worse, then I hope they come out and say it. I for one would love to know. Until then, I will give the benefit of the doubt to a man who served the country for decades. 

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General Flynn has a distinguished record of serving the country.  He was a top spy at one time and knows full well his phone conversations were likely recorded.  I doubt if he would have been that stupid to discuss anything substantial about sanctions against Russia on a phone call.

There will be a Congressional investigation and hopefully we'll get to the truth.  I'm sure General Flynn will be exonerated. One thing is for sure, we're going to see how transparent the Trump administration will be.

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*sigh* Where to start.

Oliver North...... personally, I really don't care about the "Iran-Contra" fiasco because I believe Congress was wrong about the whole thing. The United States "used" to oppose any / all attempts of any Communist attempt to overthrow any government in the Western Hemisphere. But since the 1960's, Democrat(ic) Party has been nothing but Pro-"anything USA". I believe the Democrat(ic)-controlled Congress was wrong in banning Reagan from any attempts to help the Ant-Sandinista rebels in Nicaraguan government. I suspect the "victims" that the "human rights groups" complained about was nothing more than members of the Nicaraguan Communist government.

I don't shed tears for communist members...... because of the misery communism spreads. Look at countries current / formerly controlled by them.

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As far as "someone / some group" working inside the American Government subverting it from within ((aka: working with Mr. Putin and the Russian Government))....... I'm aware of these people / groups. But Mr. Trump's "cleaning out the swamp" cannot begin until his Cabinet is confirmed / approved by the US Senate. A process ((I'm sure everyone is fully aware of)) that has been agonizingly slow. Almost a month into his Presidency....... and the Congress has been ((purposely in my opinion)) dragging  it out. Obama has his Cabinet fully approved and working within 2-weeks.

I'm not worried...... when Trump does act, 75% of the time I approve what is done.Trump did say this afternoon ((White House news briefing..... I think)) he ordered the Justice Dept. to investigate what's been going on with these groups ((he holds them responsible for "leaks" of classified information)).

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I disagree with the "firing" of Mr. Flynn. I think Trump should have told Reince Priebus (his Chief of Staff) to go pound sand. Mr. Flynn's "not telling everything" (poor memory or not remembering soon enough) or mistakenly not informing the Vice President promptly....... was not  BIG  enough of a mistake to deserve being "fired". Now it has only "emboldened the Democrat(ic) Party...... and given future candidates reason to not want anything to do with the Trump Presidency. There already has been one candidate (a retired admiral) who already refused the job.

Mr. Trump had better make an official apology to Mr. Flynn and pretty darn quick. Or else he is going to have a reputation for firing people for the minor-est (aka: smallest) of errors. Who wants that??

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I think President Trump is being given very bad advice. And I think the best thing he could do at this moment...... fire all "Political Appointees" wherever they may be in Government. I think it's these people who are working "overtime" to do whatever they can to make it tough for the president to get anything done in Washington.

I'd go even further...... I'd fire anyone who worked for the Republican Leadership. After all...... it was "these people" who made promises to the party base, but refused to fulfill these after election victories. 2014 was most notable.

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