I came across a young woman on tiktok stating that astrology (and tarot) are satanic. She was very pretty and from what I could tell - her video has tons of views. She said she had been an astrologer.
The difficult thing for me is that I agreed with her, based on explanation. She was talking about how a person might be taken over by the fact they're a (insert sign). It's true.
As they dumb down astrology along with everything else, I can see people being programmed using astrology. That disturbing Taco Bell commercial...
https://www.elsaelsa.com/forum/lounge/wacha-doin-2022/paged/17/#post-78204
Well, you can feel the "creep" all over it.
I hate that this is happening. I kind of doubt it can be stopped.
Astrology used to actually help a person will be a slim niche. I hope to survive in it but who knows.
the dumbed down version of astrology has existed for as long as I can remember. There will always be people who can sense more and who want to dig deeper though.
On another note, I can’t wait til this stupid TikTok crap goes away.
@la_sirena I should have known when they started selling zodiac sheets.
This really is coming in and if things continue the way they're headed, you won't be able to to access non-state run astrology... maybe anywhere.
I don't think people can see what I see in that commercial, for example, yet. There is a lot of crud in that short clip.
But if you look at it critically, you should be able to discern the programming. It's not exactly selling you a burrito. There is an agenda in there and if you know what I'm talking about, it's appallingly blatant.
I watch a lot of YouTube videos that seem to cover this topic. 'From New Age to Christianity' is a common theme. I know I've thrown away all of my Tarot cards and such. I am finding it difficult to give up Astrology entirely.
@klara I see New Age and Christianity as basically the same belief system. Or at least New Age thought was born from Christian thought.
In any case, it’s my sense that something that isn’t hurting anyone is not evil and therefor good. There’s a principle called Natural Law that illustrates this.
For sake of argument I guess people say that divination is hurting your eternal soul or something but I think that’s pretty easy to say about something that could possibly empower people here on this earthly plane. I don’t know, it’s hard for me to ignore the potential for humans to say something is true (without having to prove it) in order to control others. It’s like the ultimate pushing the goal post- so far in fact that it’s not even in this dimension lol.
This gal suggested there was an entity, "Virgo", or whatever sign. She stated if you invited this entity in, it would hijack you.
I do understand this to a degree. There are people out there would might be a Scorpio and try to be sexy because it's expected? I know a good number of NON sexual Scorpios. So it was about being taken over, basically. And simple, like looking at a sun sign.
I think this makes sense but I don't think it is what I do.
But there is a danger, especially now. Because people are so easily led - it's astonishing.
I believe astrology is being rolled into the brainwashing now so she did have a point.
@elsa Well there’s also the habit of some calling anything and everything “satanic” but there’s not even an agreement among satanists about what that term actually means. I think it’s used for shock factor and to repel people (which is actually probably the original/historical intention too?).
@libra-noir Yeah, I’ve heard Christians throw that word around (or the word “demonic” or “evil” to describe EVERYTHING in the world right now. It dilutes its meaning as much as dropping a ton of f-bombs or saying I love this and that does. It’s also annoying as hell.
(Was saying the “hell” word satanic? Maybe. ?)
I always move people away from thinking Astrology is anything other than a mathematical tool that predicts trends based on calculations. It isn't satanic or religious in any way, but I know because I believe in it that some people think I'm into something bad.
It sucks, but I don't care if they like me or not, I think Astrology is a tremendous way to self-help yourself. I've used it my entire life and it was so much better than ever going for mental therapy.
@jofrance ^^^^^^^^^^^^^ all of what she said!!! I say the same thing. Funny. If people who know nothing about it knew exactly how hard it is to learn and how long it takes to actually understand it ? 10 years and I am still puzzled sometimes. (It may be easier for some people, but it was not for me) So, I look deeper. Go to old threads. Go to google. Ask questions. I am still stumped sometimes. Astrology is not that commercial.
If it felt evil, I would not touch it.
I can no longer second guess it. Why? Because I can trace my life by going backward now and looking at transits. I can clearly see my life, friends and family... all of it. My whole life is right there in my birth chart. I can't imagine any God would want me to abandon anything that would try to lead me to do the right things. I would think one would believe it was sent to us by God.
But that is just me. I know I don't use it for evil. I am not good enough to even know how that would be done.
It's so exciting to me so watch my grandies grow with the energy they were born with and it's all unfolding exactly according to their birth chart. What I cannot do is look into the future with it correctly yet. I can see the past clearly though.
Also, I am the least sexy Scorpio that ever lived. But see how they twist it? I can show chunks of years of celibacy. But that is what they do.... My entire life has been about raising children. Nothing more. Starting with my little sisters and all the years up to now.
Yes! Astrology is not easy to learn. When I started to learn it I had to do the math manually. I bought all the latitude/longitude books and was able to do the charts, but it was such a tedious process to do, basically a PITA. After that you had to learn to grasp the interaction of the different energies of the planets and house placements and their affect on people's lives. It takes years.
I never felt evil imposed on me from Astrology. I 've always felt it was a higher science that was unrecognized and demonized because of its effectiveness. The study of Astrology is so old and it seems that only a few will put in the time and patience to learn it, but even if you only learn a little it will help you.
The same people who condemn using astrology as a guide to navigate the landscape of human personalities and interaction would gratefully use the stars to navigate over land or sea if needed.
Hello everyone!! I was so excited to come back and see so much input on my topic! It made my day !
I love this site !
I hope everyone is good and I need to play catch up and read everything here.
I know it’s rough out here for everyone but I’m feeling hopeful and sending everyone love, prayers, good energy, whatever you believe in,
I ask that it manifests into answered prayers and good endings for you all.
I decided Astrology WAS not evil. In fact I’ve confronted it and confirmed that’s it’s the most important and wonderful tool that My destiny has brought to me, so I can mature and understand. So I can forgive and move forward. So I can have courage to get through the dark horrors of my past. And be brave and strong. I read much books and ideas and inspiration but it is MY CHART that tells me who I am within my tribe, my flesh and blood relatives. The entire friendship struggle, etc. My chart directs and comforts me. If I sit and study, stay off social media and watch my transits and learn how the moon flows through it and journal the days it’s in fire, or the 7th house or etc. Or how Saturn beats my ass over and over till I get it., How my Scorpio ( my god how I love my scorpio now that I’ve learned and embraced her)…. I have yet. SO much to learn.
But I’m on the right path. Idc who says what to me or about me anymore within This Subject. I don’t defend it or rebuttal. I’m wise and quiet.
Mentally, I’m prepared with knowledge and I have learned that my wounds and attacks are actually Gifts as hard as it is to say this. Because pain is pain and we all hate pain. But, if someone out there is struggling to decide to study Astrology, please listen to your heart and soul and if your intentions are for good, it will be your destiny as I know it is mine.
I am very grateful for my God and what I do for spiritual food.
However-
I am also very very grateful for my listening to the tug inside me to chase after this brilliant and wondrous thing called Astrology.
