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I was at the Honda dealership today. Last week I found I’d been had, by a private party I bought my car from. It’s pretty serious. 10K, never mind the headache.  Add disgust on top of that – the seller was (is) a deacon in the Catholic church.

I’ve got a big problem now; I was discussing it with the service manager. He said something, striking.

“We’ve all been cheated at some point. We know how it feels. We’re going to want to help you best we can because it hurts when someone cheats you. It doesn’t feel good at all…”

I liked hearing this. It’s been a long time since I was cheated in this way; tricked.  It hurts your feelings, even though it’s irrational. It never occurred to me, this man (and his wife, standing next to him), could be lying.

Someone told me I should turn around and do this so someone else. Sell the car. I said, “no”. I would never do someone like this and I can say so for sure…

Because my sister fucked me over on a car like this, when I was in my early 20’s. I was trying to help her. I cosigned for her on this car…. she drove it out of town, and abandoned it on the side of the highway.  She didn’t tell me!

I found out something was up, when the bank came to me as the co-signer.  Car payments were 4 months in arrears… she’d never made one!  I could not reach her.  I had no idea where the car was or she was… I eventually contacted her neighbor who told me the car was on the highway between AZ and New Mexico, she thought.  I had to call the highway patrol.

I found the car… had no choice but to tow it back to my little town, Sierra Vista, attached to an Army base.  Big bucks.

I took if for repair and this is when I found out the frame was cracked. Junk.  This is also when I got hold of my sister.

“Sell it,” she said. It’s red. It’ll sell. Sell it to a stupid GI.”

I thought about it for a second, I was like 23 years old. No way. There was just no way I could do that. I wound up taking my paid for car and this car, trading them both in for a POS and a car payment.  It took me about a year to catch up.  She never apologize.

I am not going to %^&&** someone over with this. I am not going to be the cause of their pain and suffering… might even say anguish.  So I was glad to hear what this man said to me. I realized he could be selling me – he was selling me. But he’s also right.  And I think this story should be told, so the next time you meet someone or see someone who got cheated, or if you’re the one who got cheated, you’ll have some words that might bring them some comfort.

Have you ever been cheated? How did you feel?

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Soooo many times. I don’t think Ive ever not been cheated on a vehicle. I truly think anyone who ever takes out a loan is getting cheated, but that’s another story. But yes, Ive personally been effed over. It feels like grief because it is. Its a loss of innocence, which hurts deeply. 

My little motto is “the buck stops here”. Maybe thats a Scorpio or eighth house energy. Maybe its some kind of transmutation process of energy. Or maybe Capricorn? Responsibility, karma. 

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I think karma might get some of these swindlers, even if way down the line,  but prob. not all of them. I personally wouldn’t “repay” a swindler by swindling someone else. Not me.

I think wariness is always a good thing till you know more about the person or situation. My merc trine pluto, psychoanalyzes everyone and everything. Be careful who or what you let in. Sometimes *&^ happens anyway.

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I should be surprised it doesn’t happen more often.
I am surprised when people think I’m stupid for not becoming a perpetrator, myself.

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wow you have so much integrity it’s so awesome. It’s nice and refreshing and a beacon of light to read wonderful virtues.

Yes I’ve been swindled many times, but I just let it go. I’ve been swindled by someone who told me they needed 35 bucks and I gave them and they said they will be back to pay me back and I sat there waiting for 2 hours lol  it’s really quite dumb but I was sitting in front of a store and this guy came up desperate wanting money.  And I felt bad, he looked maybe like a pimp lol  but not too flashy clothing. But his manipulation and sob story was soooo good. I had the money so why not?  if it helped this stranger in a bind and I was back then 16-17 years old and got my first car. lol  they probably saw a young teenaged girl in a car and thought well she has money if she can afford a car and buying goodies at a local health food store. lol I think lots of stuff has happened to me over the years but I let it go. 

I think integrity and having virtues maybe an earth thing. Most likely Virgo is involved. I always get the feeling virgo is virginal in the way that they must purify and feel good to have virtues.  Also Capricorn …because well responsibility. they can’t just jet off somewhere and do bad things because it will come back and haunt them and then the karma is too heavy already.

It’s strange but last December/January when the heavy Capricorn stellium was in effect, I wonder if it’s karma coming in some way.

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I’ve been swindled too, and I too have always refused to be a perp.

It is simply impossible for me to intentionally and knowingly cause any kind of harm to anybody. 

Libra Sun & stellium – honesty, fairness and justice is the core of me

Saturn in Capricorn – responsibility (in aspect to the above)

ETA: In my book of personal moral guidelines, way at the top is “Two wrongs don’t make a right.” 

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I read a book on this and it said the only people who don’t really get cheated are those that are so paranoid they actually can’t socialise with others. They are those that don’t automatically assume others are truthful and it is the basis of communication to assume truthfulness in others statements.

I think I am one of those types. When I was suddenly battling a previous workplace with a union I found out some things that are actually not a big deal, some paperwork they had not done correctly and thought that since I had discovered this they could pay someone to have me killed. Absolutely batkhit now I think about it.

I had an overpowering sense the guy was trying to screw you when I read the line “We’ve all been cheated at some point. We know how it feels. We’re going to want to help you best we can because it hurts when someone cheats you. It doesn’t feel good at all…”

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Well…I decided to contribute to this post knowing that I’ll disappoint and anger some posters…so I’m a little nervous yet I’d rather have some integrity on the matter.

So I do think that we’ve all been cheated at some point in our lives…it wasn’t something I liked envisioning when I was young (idealism) yet in time it happens to all of us. I remember Cameron Diaz saying something about being cheated on at least once (or something like that) I’ll try to find the hilarious video of her. She was talking about being cheated in relationships yet of course it’s like that service manager told Elsa, everyone gets cheated in some way at some time.

So I bought a second hand car in 2016 from what (I thought) at the time was a great dealership for second hand cars. They had fixed problems with my previous car and had been so great at service. The car I bought was a German car. It had a couple of things wrong which I wanted sorted before I purchased it and my husband (sun and three other personal planets in Taurus) told me that the car wasn’t right and told me not to buy it.

I ignored him and bought it [eyes rolling]

It gave me huge mechanical problems every 3 or 6 months and I ended up paying around £4.000 or more (lost track) on things that were a little obscure or really unusual for a car that was only two years old. I realised the hubby was right.

I started getting into debt to pay for the repairs. The car left me stranded in the most inconvenient places and affected my work.

So I decided to follow the hubby’s advice and get a Japanese or Korean car (reliable, he said.) Here in England one can part-buy a car by selling one’s car. I felt really conflicted about this, selling this car that was lovely yet so troublesome. Hubby said everyone does it. I told him I didn’t think everybody did this sort of thing (like posters here demonstrate.)

In the end I took it to different dealerships and they all valued the car. One of them told me the car had been clearly in a ‘write off’ accident and had been done all over!!

While I was trying out different cars and having those dealerships value my car the car’s heating system problems (like £1000 there) started again. So I took it for a repair to the dealership where I got it. I asked the mechanic there (who’d been fixing my car since 2016) if the car had been in a car accident. He said No. The salesman who sold me the car said he’d noticed me coming to the dealership more often and I told him that the car hadn’t stopped giving me problems since I bought it. He asked me if I’d be interested in buying another car from him and I told him that No as the car he’d sold had lots of issues.

I wanted to sell the car to the dealership that offered me the least money in the valuation as I knew I’d be cheating someone down the line. Yet in the end (persuaded by my husband – so earth can cheat, I think, plus he has Mars square Neptune – yet also persuaded by my own cheating side – I have Sun and Moon in harsh aspects to Neptune) I opted to sell it for the highest bidder as I had debt to pay off from all the repairs.

Bought a second hand Japanese car which I love yet guess what? As I drove away from the dealership, 10 minutes into my drive, a lorry (truck) sent a big stone to the windscreen and it made a crack. Big enough to have to repair it myself (and it will need more repair in the future) yet not big enough to have to change the windscreen.

As soon as that happened I thought ‘I deserve this!’

I feel less guilty about what I did nowadays as last year (when I bought the new car and gave away the faulty one) was the shittiest year (apart from 2018) that I’ve had with lost of losses and bereavement regarding an issue very dear to me, so I think I’ve paid my dues.

I hope so!

Although I love my car I felt horrible selling a flawed car and hope I don’t find myself in a situation where I decide to flex my integrity that way. Financially it was just too hard and I wanted to get rid of the car as it was so unreliable (the irony, I know around reliability.)

Of course I stopped taking cars to repair to the dealership that sold me the old car and I would never recommend them if someone asks me. I’d simply say I’d look elsewhere.

So that’s my story. I was the perpetrator, not that long ago (last year.)

I had transiting Neptune conjunct my Sun (an applying aspect till not exact for a month) and I acted out my devious side of the natal neptune aspects. Doing bad when one’s aware of it doesn’t fully suit me I learned so I’ve cleaned up my act in little ways in many areas (in general I have integrity with Sun Saturn trine and Sun Ascendant trine) since then and plan to continue doing so.

Please don’t hate me too much!!

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Sunday, May 17, 2020 - 5:41 am
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Here’s the Cameron Diaz video on everyone gets cheated on.

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Ah yes, now I recall something that might be relevant.

It is not as serious as other examples here like, there was no actual money involved. But in the conspiracy circles I used to follow a guy who claimed he had a lot of information and others claimed they had vetted him under some stringent security measures. Later on it turned out that those security measures were actually not done at all because the people who were promoting him just wanted money (I heard a commenter describe this perfectly… ‘They admitted they are hollywood sleaze’!) It was also the view that this individual, the storyteller, was just making up stories for money.

I actually stopped listening to the guy after about a year because I got a dream about it. Not saying to stop him per sey but making some comparisons. I have had a few different pieces of guidance on a few different people and some of it has turned out to be quite accurate a few years later.

So, obviously this is an area of deep thick Neptunian and Uranian illusion. We are talking about people that discuss things such as extra terrestrials as though it is a real everyday subject. But I came to the conclusion this guy had made it all up. There were a few different things that made me think that and a body language woman I like a great deal had said she didn’t think he was truthful. Now thinking of it there is a difference between this guy and the people I consider real. The guys that are real tend to be a little moody, tend to have this hassled look and describe security procedures of the military and uncaring attitudes with some annoyance. Tend to often come out with things that feel intuitively true and upsetting and are really a bit of a curve ball. Whereas ones I consider not so true sound just as outlandish, but somehow fit within the same range of emotions that we have already experienced when reviewing these stories.

This guy however had stories which don’t have that feel and always seem to cast him in a similar light. Always have these weird fantastical encounters and he always has the same emotion in regard to them.

Once I heard about the case against him I realised how my view of the world had been influenced by his stories and it doesn’t feel bad. But it feels like a hassle at having to undo those thoughts and beliefs. It feels like coming down to earth in an uncomfortable way. It feels good but not really comfortable

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Sounds like you had one of those crisp Uranian ‘Just knowing’ flashes/intuitions about this person.

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Well, there is some technical element to the thought process and it is still Uranian. (Uranus is PRECISELY that!) I.e. so what I didn’t mention is one of the people talking against this guy I was quite careful with body language reading because there were potentially lies flying in all directions. And I did not think he was telling the truth in all of it at one point he said ‘If we had known x when we were asked to hire him we would not have done so’… Hmm… So you went into ‘portrayal’ there… Yeah you would. Or at least you don’t know 100% that you wouldn’t.

Moon exact conjunct Uranus to less than one degree!

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I would never get back at an innocent person because an asshole ripped me off, feels sickening! I would definitely let anyone I cared for know about the con-person for sure! Being treated badly always hurts, it is like the person think so low of you to treat you that way. Being screwed over by a so-called spiritual person is disgusting. They are obviously just at church for the credibility in the community than any real soul reason.

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Yeah, he and his wife chatted with me for 45 minutes. Told me the oil had just been changed… Like right then, for me, special.

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Yeah, he and his wife chatted with me for 45 minutes. Told me the oil had just been changed… Like right then, for me, special.

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