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songmistress
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On May 3, with the help of VEnus Square Neptune I feel as if I lost my best friend of 16+ years, with whom I shared a roof for 11 years, and was his lover for several years 4+ years ago.  He more or less also kicked me out of the house.  I do not understand it at all, and the whole saga is weird and inexplicable though surely there IS an explanation which I am searching for.

I'm an intuitive/ empathic healer, which makes this even more difficult for me to be so blocked/ blindsided by it all though admittedly it isn't something I tune into daily though live it daily regardless.  AFter May 3rd's explosion I showed up two days later to begin packing as I had zero doubt he expected me to move plus I did not want to be in a situation of continually being hurt, sometimes cruelly or as some kind of punishment.  7 days later I had the majority of my things moved with some left in the attic and garage.

The only conversation we have had was purely about logistics, a few personal comments about this or that that were endearing from both of us along with I apologized to him through tears " I am very sorry I did not realize how important it was to you for me to move by right now, and that  my misunderstanding caused you to have to push me."  To me that apology was a higher road statement because in my mind the fact of it is had he ever at any time been more specific and communicated clearly there wouldn't have been a problem.

We have been the best of friends and companions since it was established, 4 years ago, that he may still want to have children and I am past childbearing years.  In that time frame he has ballooned to be morbidly obese (another Venus Square Neptune issue) with a serious food addiction that he acknowledges but never really addresses as it gets worse.  His weight had become an issue prior to that but it was never at this level.  He was over 400lbs at the beginning of this year and has gotten down to 385 the last I knew.

He also has a buying/ returning problem and spends money like crazy, then returns and the cycle continues. On top of all that seemingly a very responsible, talented and self aware individual with whom I have been extremely compatible throughout various relationship dynamics for 16+ years and is basically a member of my family.  I have been more vocal about his addiction and less enabling...

He has a major surgery on June 23rd, which is why I asked more about the June 23rd aspects....where 1/3 of his colon is being removed for issues relating to that.  I thought I was going to be taking care of him hence, in part, my misunderstanding about the move as well as, hey, there is a pandemic happening and there is no place like home, but here we are.

10 days prior to May 3 he met a woman through social media, and she came to our house on May 2.  The blow up emanated from her being upset to discover I was there when she called him and he acted funny.  He then had to explain himself and try to work things out with her to ease over whatever their misunderstanding was.  I was trying to offer friendly advice, having just learned of her existence, when he made it clear that I needed to leave because he could not talk to her on the phone with me there (even though he could have had privacy in other ways without me having to leave what I considered to be my home).  This was the 2nd time in a week he had made me leave our home to go back to stay at my office where I had been staying off and on working 24/7 to keep the lights on without staff.

I'm sharing this all because there are two more Venus square Neptune transits coming up and Venus is Retrograde in Gemini...and I need to be prepared because my emotions are raw.   I'm partially very concerned about his mental health, and his surgery, but I also need to heal myself right now and that is my priority.

I called him today in part because I do have additional things to move and am in the dark on his expectations since I feel very much in the dark about why any of this has happened, and let him know that I was ready to talk if he would also like to clear the air.  He is supposed to call when that will work for him, in the meantime he is actually blaming me for all of this when I said he was treating me badly which he denies and is proud to have stood up to me because I made him feel bad about himself by saying the he was being mean and cruel when other things happened in the 4 weeks leading up to May 3rd.  When I asked him if he thought he had done anything to hurt me he said that I felt hurt because I was not listening to him and only hearing what I wanted to, so the understanding I had was not what he meant and that is why I felt hurt not because he was being mean....  While discussing when would be a good time to meet, he said he couldn't do it on x day because he had a CT Scan then and I asked what it was for and he refused to say.  To me that refusal was like a punishment.  Even after saying to him that I can still adore him and love him after everything is said and done, and worry about him so it would be nice to know... 

Any guidance you can give me is greatly appreciated relating to what I should do or be prepared for... and should I even try to talk to him during all of this.  I don't have to have my things that are there and I trust him to be their caretaker... sigh

Sorry if this is too much info or not enough!!!

Me in general based on time of birth:  Gemini Sun, Libra Rising, Capricorn Moon, Cancer in Venus here.  Sun square Saturn,

Venus Sextile Jupiter (orb 4°21')

Venus Trine Saturn (orb 2°3')

Venus Sextile Uranus (orb 0°50')

Venus Sextile Pluto (orb 4°44')

Venus Conjunction North Node (orb 4°45')

Venus Sextile Vertex (orb 2°60')

Venus Square Ascendant (orb 5°11')

Venus Conjunction Midheaven (orb 6°49')

Mercury Opposition Neptune (orb 1°42')

 

Him:  Unknown time of birth so incomplete.  Aries Sun, Aries Rising, Pisces Moon, Venus in Aries, Saturn in Scorpio

 

Planet

Aspect

Planet

Orb

Value

  Sun

  Trine

  Uranus

7°56'

2

  Sun

  Trine

  Neptune

7°55'

1

  Sun

  Opposition

  Pluto

7°54'

-52

  Sun

  Conjunction

  Lilith

0°59'

469

  Moon

  Sextile

  Neptune

2°44'

100

  Moon

  Trine

  Pluto

2°45'

98

  Mercury

  Conjunction

  Venus

0°56'

381

  Mercury

  Square

  Neptune

3°14'

-46

  Venus

  Square

  Neptune

4°09'

-19

  Mars

  Opposition

  Saturn

4°22'

-72

  Jupiter

  Sextile

  Uranus

4°30'

16

  Uranus

  Trine

  Lilith

6°57'

4

  Neptune

  Sextile

  Pluto

0°01'

90

  Pluto

  Opposition

  Lilith

8°53'

-0

 

1161

-189

972

 

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Soph-tee-clees
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Venus square Neptune is about toxic positivity. On the first square I noticed this exact video come up in a few different places.

I would say, I would guess, the guy is in a self involved "life is unfair", "Woe is me" spiral and you need to cut your losses. It doesn't matter about his medical condition. If he doesn't want to share it with you then let him stew.

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I suspect there's more than just Venus sq. Neptune at play here.

You'll probably get better responses if you post your chart - aspects without houses, signs, degrees etc. don't say much.

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chart.png not sure if this works, my tech skills are not serving me well ... sigh and thank you!!!

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Thank you for the great advice and insight!  I suspect the woe is me, life is unfair scenario and within it I have been demonized.

While in self healing mode I continue to have a slight tinge/ thought that pops up about addicts with a nagging draw to "help him".  I'm trying to let that go though because I know I cannot help him, only he can help himself.  What rolls through my head is "how will I feel if he dies?", will I feel okay with how things were left or my efforts?  The answer to that eludes me and yet I believe in my own inner strength enough to comfort me with the knowledge that I can heal myself no matter what... some wounds take longer and others are a lifetime journey.

On another note, my 2012 venus retrograde themes that have resurfaced had to do with the loss of my front tooth and settling into a new home.  Professionally things were very good. Based on my recollection and looking at photos & emails, our relationship was very solid then too... 

Thanks for the opportunity to share and feel heard.

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songmistress said
chart.png not sure if this works, my tech skills are not serving me well ... sigh and thank you!!!

  

It looks like t.Uranus crossed into your 8th house around the same time of the Venus-Neptune Square.

Triggering the Kite focused on Neptune in 2nd house. This house is important because it's also the missing link to your T-Square (Sun-Saturn-Pluto & Uranus); restless energy on a subconscious level to seek resolution in the area that is missing - it's hard to get comfortable on a 3-legged chair, and you've tried, perhaps for years, shifting, thinking, adjusting, controlling but something probably didn't feel right....perhaps the more self sacrificing you did the more unconsciously or consciously unstable you became.

Then t.Uranus stepped in to shake things up...

You said “how will I feel if he dies?” Perhaps the death you feel is the death of the relationship. It's possible that your own self esteem issues had become meshed with his and you had become blind to this. The death of the relationship being an impetus for the beginning of your renewed sense of self. You have a grand earthly trine with 4th, 8th, 11th houses, so even though Uranus may set off transformation (8th house), you have grounding energy in 4th and 11th that may serve to stabilize whilst in the midst of change.

I imagine it can be hard to see this, because it has just happened. But you are strong, Capricorn Moon, and all you have to do is trust yourself more.

This statement you made is so very true, "I can heal myself no matter what… some wounds take longer and others are a lifetime journey."

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