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I haven't been able to be on here in quite awhile and I've missed you all!! :'( 

But on to my question....

I recently came across the planetary configuration called a YOD or "Finger of God" and I have been wanting to ask all you smart people what you know about them. I guess the reason I've never paid attention to them before was that I don't look for quincunx aspects, or 150 degrees. But after reading a bit on the YOD I find it interesting. I've read that they can be super rare and also common depending on the planets involved. I have a YOD in my own chart between my moon, ascendant and Mars with Mars as the focus. Mars is also the focus of two T-Squares. So any ideas?

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Have been absent from this site for a long time too.

This iconic woman was my mentor for many years - she understood YODS and after listening to her lectures, you understood YODS too.  She wrote a great booklet on YODS and quincunxes.  You can read about her at this link and her writings.  http://www.solsticepoint.com/a.....cevoy.html

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I'm definitely more of a peruser than a poster but I just can't help myself here 🙂

I'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts - particularly the reasoning behind argument that the fastest moving planet must be at the apex for it to be considered a Yod. More on that under my example.

Personally, I've had luck looking at the point directly across from the apex and understanding the energies involved through that transit. It's almost like the fourth leg of a chair. Three work, four just feels more solid. Looking at sign and house placement has also helped.

For example:
I have a Venus/Jupiter/Mars Yod all within two degrees, and I can almost FEEL when a planet is in opposition to Venus there. Mars was there a few days ago... and whoah. Like, on that exact day I found a deep and immediate connection with a very interesting man (he feels the same, and it was just spontaneously through mutual friends). I will admit that has been a pattern in my life, but of course, 'this seems different'.... and it always is, and always very deep and powerful feeling when it's a romantic thing. Interesting that Venus (in Scorpio/12th) is the apex and that Mars is the one in transit. Then the legs of the Yod are Mars in Aries in the 5th house of pleasure/lovers/fun and Jupiter in the 7th of partnership amplifying it all. 

Now for my question...
Anyone know about boomerangs? I have a [Yod?] of Jupiter/Venus/Uranus-Saturn, plus the Sun (3° Sag) & Mercury (0° Sag) in exact opposition to Jupiter (0° Gem). A lot of what I've read says that due to Jupiter not being the fastest moving planet it 'isn't even really a Yod' but I'm wondering if certain conditions ever override that? Like with an exact 'biggest-&-smallest-planet' connection? Or if they're at certain points in the chart? Retrograde? Dominant planets? I have no idea and I'm very curious.

I'll be checking out that solsticepoint link in the near future, thank you for the resource!

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I have a boomerang and I can tell you for a certainty the planet which is at the boomerang position, e.g. opposite the apex planet, is a lynch pin 'key'- its the riddle that needs solving followed by action to answer to the fated circumstances of having a Yod. To me, its 'karma' coming back around - thus the 'boomerang' -  that must be handled astutely once understood to absolve the issues / problems and move on from, hopefully once and forever more...its like that film "Groundhog Day" where Bill Murray gets to do-over his actions 'til he hits upon the proper series of steps to progress onward, & not backwards yet once again. BTW - if your yod has retrograde planets involved, the 'dharma' is emphasized...Also, IMO the Sabian symbols degrees of the planets involved in the yod provide insights of whats needing to be redressed/redone/reworked. hope this helps.

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scorpittarius said
I'm definitely more of a peruser than a poster but I just can't help myself here 🙂

I'd be interested in hearing others' thoughts - particularly the reasoning behind argument that the fastest moving planet must be at the apex for it to be considered a Yod. More on that under my example.

Personally, I've had luck looking at the point directly across from the apex and understanding the energies involved through that transit. It's almost like the fourth leg of a chair. Three work, four just feels more solid. Looking at sign and house placement has also helped.

For example:
I have a Venus/Jupiter/Mars Yod all within two degrees, and I can almost FEEL when a planet is in opposition to Venus there. Mars was there a few days ago... and whoah. Like, on that exact day I found a deep and immediate connection with a very interesting man (he feels the same, and it was just spontaneously through mutual friends). I will admit that has been a pattern in my life, but of course, 'this seems different'.... and it always is, and always very deep and powerful feeling when it's a romantic thing. Interesting that Venus (in Scorpio/12th) is the apex and that Mars is the one in transit. Then the legs of the Yod are Mars in Aries in the 5th house of pleasure/lovers/fun and Jupiter in the 7th of partnership amplifying it all. 

Now for my question...
Anyone know about boomerangs? I have a [Yod?] of Jupiter/Venus/Uranus-Saturn, plus the Sun (3° Sag) & Mercury (0° Sag) in exact opposition to Jupiter (0° Gem). A lot of what I've read says that due to Jupiter not being the fastest moving planet it 'isn't even really a Yod' but I'm wondering if certain conditions ever override that? Like with an exact 'biggest-&-smallest-planet' connection? Or if they're at certain points in the chart? Retrograde? Dominant planets? I have no idea and I'm very curious.

I'll be checking out that solsticepoint link in the near future, thank you for the resource!  

I don't think the fastest moving planet is the apex but I have read about how a YOD is more significant if it onvolves one or more fast moving planets. For there to be a YOD two planets have to be sextile each other and then these two must be quincunx a third, and it's this planet that's the apex regardless of how fast or slow it is. I've been doing a lot of pondering on YOD's and I feel like I have an idea of what mine symbolizes....can you post your chart?

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I did not not think that this post would apply to me,(not that direct application to ones chart would increase or decrease the validity) as I have been studying my natal chart for quite sometime. Wrong. Thanks for this thread ( I've already subbed)

Natal Chiron in 9th, Sextile Mercury in the 11th both Inconjunct Moon Conjunct I.C. (4th house cusp) not exact, as Chiron and Mercury are a hair past 5 degrees moon is at 2 degrees and change

I don't know why I haven't been been paying attention, but I will be now.

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Yods are also considered an aspect pattern that acts mostly in the Mental plane. It also deals with "crisis in timing" ((hence the Mental effect)).

A transiting planet triggers (makes aspect) with the first Quincunx...... and a solution must be found by the time the second Quincunx is triggered (makes aspect) by the transiting planet. Without a natal planet at the Opposition point of the Base..... most people would be clueless on how to resolve it.

I like to think the already is a planet at that point...... it's the Transiting planet. "Technically" it isn't a part of the Yod...... but if you know "where" the Opposition point to the Apex planet, then you should be able to put together a plan yourself.

Just my $0.02

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I have a Yod myself, but in Classic Rulerships...... it isn't considered a "proper" aspect. Slowest planet, Pluto, is at the Apex..... but I like it, so that's that.

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When a transiting or natal planet is at opposition to the apex planet of a yod, that planet also makes a Semisextile to each of the sextiling planets of the yod. A Semisextile 30° is an aspect of opportunity of which hopefully we can take advantage, if only by knowledge, if we can figure it out. 

Diligent focus on our transits is a good way to learn. The Moon transits our charts once a lunar month and does everything and anything in the way of transits to our planets and any planetary patterns we have in our charts. The Moon has been doing this to us since birth, so there is an innate feeling about this rhythm of how our natal planets operate, on an instinctive level at least. Follow the transiting Moon around your natal chart. Any natal and transiting planetary patterns with minor aspects should be considered with tight orbs.

A Yod with an opposing  planet to the apex is called a Focused Yod or a Boomerang. I've always called it a Yod Kite, which is much different from what I call a Quad Kite and is somethin' else! A Yod pattern is k/a the Finger of God and a Quadriform pattern is k/a the Fist of God. So if we go for the drama, we have parts of the hand of God striking us. Poked by a finger, hammered by a fist, what next, maybe the Foot of God, a giant stellium with all 10 planets in Pisces?

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Fibuceus said

I don't think the fastest moving planet is the apex but I have read about how a YOD is more significant if it onvolves one or more fast moving planets. For there to be a YOD two planets have to be sextile each other and then these two must be quincunx a third, and it's this planet that's the apex regardless of how fast or slow it is. I've been doing a lot of pondering on YOD's and I feel like I have an idea of what mine symbolizes....can you post your chart?  

Here it is... Orbs are reduced by 90%. 

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scorpittarius - such an interesting configuration! i wonder if there's a name for the form made between those two yods and the connecting square. it's intriguing that it makes a larger shape between venus, jupiter, uranus/saturn, and mars with the sextiles, the top quincunx, and the square holding it all together. i don't know if i've seen that configuration before. it's almost like the venus and jupiter and the quincunx between them would be the focal point of that configuration, perhaps, since they're the focal planets of the individual yods, though i'd also almost be tempted to put emphasis on the uranus/saturn conjunction and mars since they have a square between them which generates a lot of energy and attention in a clearer way than the sextiles/quincunxes otherwise involved.

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Happened to come across some writing about the Yod (and the quincunx) today when I was reading the Liz Greene & Howard Sasportas book The Inner Planets:

"Did you ever see old cowboy movies, where two cattle ranchers standing some distance apart from one another lasso a little dogie between them? The planet that is at the apex of the Yod is like that baby steer - it's caught by the two other planets which are inconjuncting it and cannot act without having to take into consideration whatever those two planets represent. In general, the Yod can create a fair amount of friction and tension in your life, and you may feel fated by it... The planet at the apex seems to bear the brunt of the Yod. However, as with the quincunx, sometimes the three energies brought together by a Finger of Fate [Yod] can combine quite brilliantly with one another, but you also have to endure the three energies combining in such a way as to create significant troubles and tensions as well.

"I would like to comment on the nature of the quincunx, because this peculiar aspect is at the core of a Yod's effects. The quincunx produces a highly ambivalent relationship between two planets. There is enough attraction in it to sometimes generate a feeling of deep harmony, and each planet brings the best out of the other one. But then all of a sudden the harmony falls apart - rather like a relationship which sometimes feels absolutely right and beautiful but which then suddenly, for no apparent reason, degenerates into quarreling and conflict. Then there is a period of worry and tension, where the two people cannot seem to avoid irritating each other; but just as you think the whole thing is becoming too difficult, it shifts again and everything is fine. Signs which are naturally in quincunx, such as Leo-Pisces, Aries-Virgo, or Cancer-Aquarius, have a natural fascination for each other, because each has attributes that the other completely lacks; but they are also always of different qualities (unlike signs in square or opposition, which are always both cardinal, fixed or mutable). This intrinsic differentness can be very irritating.

"...The quincunx aspect seems to oscillate between expressing itself positively and giving you quite a bit of trouble.

"Another feature of the aspect is that the quincunx is not really strong enough to generate the kind of decisive action that a square does (where you can't stand it one minute more); but it produces too much friction to permit the reflective blending of an opposition (where indecision forces you to eventually find a compromise). There is both too much conflict, and too little. I think this is the reason why the quincunx is often associated with ill health. It symbolizes tension which is not sufficiently strong to provoke direct action, but is strong enough to disturb one's equilibrium.

"I remember you once compared it to a backache, which wasn't so bad that you had to stay in bed or remain home from work, but it still niggled you and created discomfort when you were out in the world. However, I believe that if it is a very close inconjunct by orb, you will feel its effects on your life quite strongly.

"The quincunx turns up a great deal in synastry as well, which reflects its push-pull, attraction-repulsion quality."

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