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Is fear a Saturn issue or a Pluto issue? I feel that different fears vary when it comes to those two planets. For me it’s more of a fear related to the unknown waters of the future? I’m experiencing thoughts and sensations of fear because I just moved back to my Pluto line yesterday. How do i deal with it and embrace what Pluto wants me to see and learn?

The physical sensations (dizziness and stomach upsets) will probably dissipate once I get settled at my own pace. I figure that takes time.

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I’d say about 65% of astrologers would say that fear is more of a Saturn thing.

Oh, a Pluto line, that’s something to think about. Don’t forget, Pluto is also transformation, maybe moving to that particular place will ‘transform’ you in the best way possible!

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Saturday, June 6, 2020 - 5:51 pm
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Not much research out there about Pluto lines. Just doom and gloom about how you’re supposed to avoid them at all costs.

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So, your new place falls in your 1st house? 

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I run astromaps on astro.com and it just shows my Pluto line near my current city. I wouldn’t know where it falls or anything.

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You don’t have to tell us, but you could Google your city and see its ‘founding date’, or birthday, and compare it to your rising sign’s degree. And depending your which house system you use, you can find out what house your city falls in. wink

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Scorpio Sun at 7 degrees. Falls into my 1st house.

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My rising sign is 5 degrees Scorpio

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First, I’d like to say that I am so relieved/happy that you are now in a safer environment. It’s understandable/natural that you’d have feelings of anxiety associated with moving into a new location. If I was to pick a planet associated with these types of fears, yes I’d say Saturn.

To reduce anxiety, I’d recommend reframing this experience. Try changing your self talk from “oh no, I’m living on my Pluto line”, to – “Now that I am safe, I look forward to positive experiences”.

Like you said, time will help too 🙂. 

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I hate how much Saturn affects me. I kind of hate my Capricorn stellium sometimes.

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I see you as a very strong, resilient person; I like your Capricorn stellium capricornsmily_gif

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Thanks but I don’t feel strong. I feel scared and hopeless, mostly scared. It’s like my fear of the unknown is rushing back. I’m scared of having another nervous breakdown but I hope I have the coping tools to prevent it such as journaling and crocheting and watching videos until I adjust. 

Not a huge fan of change, really. Thinking about finding a job where I can work from home to save money so I can go back to Oregon.

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I hear you. Nothing wrong with this being a temporary base that you can plan your next move from 🙂

You sound like you have the coping tools. I’ve seen you successfully work through prior life challenges, so I believe you will this time. It is also normal for your anxiety to be heightened in these very early stages of this change.

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It would be helpful for you to think about having a support network in the city where you’ve moved to.

– trusted friends

– friendly acquaintances who give out safe and kind vibes

– trusted family members if there are any nearby

– seek out kind mental health professionals who can support you if you have a nervous breakdown. Know what’s available there and avoid any professional you didn’t like (I don’t mean kind ones who you couldn’t trust in the past… I mean those you knew at some level wouldn’t or couldn’t help you at all…)

– to list 5 things you can do for yourself that nurtures you and makes you relax. Do two things a day while you’re settling.

Reframing your story and this new cycle/move is key, HM has a great point. Take it, I’d say.

Have you heard of Narrative Therapy? You have internet access (you are posting here) so you can google and read about it and have a go at writing and reframing, like writing yourself a reframing letter.

Transformation is a Pluto thing. It’s one of your Asc ruler’s. 

Good luck!

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PurpleStarGirl said
Scorpio Sun at 7 degrees. Falls into my 1st house.

  

Sorry for the late reply, I had to have dinner. I was hungry! whacky_gif

1st house. Not bad. You’ll definitely be ‘seen’ there. I’m guessing it’s the total opposite of living in a 12th house city, where I did. Where I was pretty much invincible!

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