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We're a stone throw away from the last Jupiter-Pluto conjunction at 22* on Nov-12th.

A few days later, Venus squares Pluto also at 22*

So don't be surprised if zombies/corpses surface that week.

https://www.elsaelsa.com/astrology/venus-trine-pluto-love-money/

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@osiris-wife Hello Smile Thank you for the link Smile I've really enjoyed this thread because I rarely get to hear about/read about the experiences that revolve around the highly positive outcomes of Plutonic resurrection from the perspective of the resurrected. This was such a great idea of yours. In allegorical terms using movies as examples, most of us here have experienced/or will soon experience an Obi Wan Kenobi, Superman in Justice League, Evey in V for Vendetta, or Neo when he self actualises in the Matrix, etc. moment. In the final summary, all are transformed into better/the best versions of themselves.

I also wonder if the Plutonic ladder to enlightenment can occur in stages in relation to a bigger life story where, for example, there's a number of contacts that involve smaller deaths, leading to a killer blow that completely transforms the seeker into something/someone almost completely unrecognisable from what they were before. With that in mind, I really love and can relate to this quote from Imam Ali — 'Be like the flower that gives its fragrance to even the hand that crushes it.' I wonder how many feel like we are reaching that point whilst still living?

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Love the concept of slow deaths, big blow...boom...transformation. Classic hero's journey. 

During full moon ritual tonight, I broke down, allowing myself to really feel the grief of past year. I don't know if its my Capricorn perseverance or natal Scorpionic pluto...I am still standing. Most days, I smile, do my duties well and stay productive. This -despite an endless bleak future and things that held most meaning for me, being stripped away.

I am due for a resurrection. Not rewards...they will feel empty and temporary...but REAL resurrection, back from the underworld of overwhelming loss. Hopefully, I have done the work. Now, all that is left to do is to wait for a trigger point for it to all come rushing up and out.

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@vesta  Hello Vesta Smile

Initially, I felt incredibly sad for you when reading your post, but I do so hope you are on the home run now, especially after today's release of pent up grief. However your resurrection manifests this year, I hope, more than anything else, that it will make you simply feel whole and blessed with a calm inner peace and knowing that, whatever happens, all will be well. It's probably the single greatest state of mind we can ever attain. It's its own reward.

If I may, I'll let you into my not so little secret...

Since 1996, I've lived through transit Pluto conjunct Neptune, then opposite Saturn, then conjuct Sun, then square Mars, then conjunct Jupiter, then square Moon, then conjunct Mercury, then conjunct Venus (shitiest year ever), then square Pluto natal, then square Chiron, then sextile Mars, them square Uranus, then sextile Moon, then conjuct DSC late last year (second shitiest year ever) then finally conjunct progressed Sun. This last aspect has effectively burned away anything left of what I once was. There really is absolutely nothing left, but what I've lost was nothing I really needed in order to survive and thrive anyway. Without an ounce of self pity, I lost people I worshipped who weren't really worthy of me, I've lost loved ones I didn't believe I could survive without, friends and family have perished, I have been destitute for extended periods, socially isolated, close to physical death more than once, went temporarily insane due to an undiagnosed illness that affected my brain and spine, I have been utterly humiliated, slandered, projected on, used, and lost most of my worldly possessions. In fact, much of what has gone permanently, though, were self-inflicted disabilities and coping mechanisms because I had rejected some of the very best parts of me that I'd spent a lifetime projecting onto other people. It's only just dawning on me now that you truly wonderful, brave, dignified souls here are some of the very first to see me as close as I can be to being truly, fully naked. No pretence, no attempt at trying to be someone (or something) I am not, no attempt to impress... simply me. I really can't articulate it but I feel so different. I have never felt so light and unburdened, and please believe me when I tell you that I feel so very privileged that I have been able to share the outcome of my long Plutonic experience with all of you. If nothing else, I'd love nothing more than to give that sense of at oneness to every single one of you here... but I know that's not something I can ever do because each of us are on our own very unique and individual journeys. All I can do, the absolutely very best I can offer, is to sincerely let you know that this mutual Plutonic path we have embarked upon will be ok, and to trust the process. Far from being cursed, and it really can feel like that at times, we have actually been very blessed... and we are headed somewhere beautiful. To be honest, if someone told me I was going to be like this and write this 25 years ago, I wouldn't have been able to envisage it, for a start,... and I would have also said I needed permanently locking up in a funny farm! Like all of you, I've had to face some of my greatest fears, endure losses I couldn't even begin to fathom, let alone recover from, and still keep marching on in nearly perpetual darkness for what has felt like an eternity with no end destination in sight. When we are down to nothing, God is really up to something. I heard that quote on t.v. once and now I finally understand why. That message was meant for me, just like when I heard Joseph Mawle portraying Christ utter "I will always be with you" just before his ascent to Heaven. I bawled my eyes out that night and whispered back at the t.v. "I know". Many, many hours of darkness have passed since that night and now that I am here, nothing will ever hurt as much as it has done ever again... certainly not in this life. Simultaneously, I am feeling more connected than I ever have in this entire lifetime, too. The resurrection into light, feeling completely centred in the eye of the storm with no fear in the heart, that is the gift. It is, by far, the greatest gift. I promise.

If I could, I really would warmly embrace every single one of you right now. I now know how the characters must have felt in the closing scene in Lost, just before they were about to "move on". The love for one another was so very palpable and brimming with anticipation of what was coming next.

I really don't know where I am going next, but it doesn't really matter. It'll simply be ok. I hope and trust it will be ok for you too. Truly.

Sending love and light your way Smile

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@jswtrinity "The resurrection into the light, feeling completely centered in the eye of the storm with no fear in the heart, that is the gift".

That is the truth! I finally have arrived there. I never dreamed that it could ever be. I have no fear to live for the first time. As an added benefit, l have no fear of death. That comes as a package deal.

I have been through many Pluto transits and they have been excruciating. I won't list them but my Sun has been opposed by Pluto at 22 degrees Cancer and it has been over and over like an International Harvester combine just thrashing the hell out of me. I have been harvested! There is nothing in this field except for a bit of stubble. The full Moon was exact my descendant this evening, 8 degrees. It seems like every eclipse and transit has been hitting my placements with absolute uncanny  exactitude for several years. I needed to go through all of it and it has taken forever it seems. Pluto must be the master of paradox; lt takes being nothing to become everything within. I think l am feeling like a whole person now.

Boy though, Pluto shows up!

I had my first daughter through natural childbirth, holy crap.l thought l was going to die. I'm serious. The very day l had Pluto /Venus conjunction exact to my ascendant at 8 degrees Scorpio. Pluto has your number and l guess he knows the deal.

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@ln @jswtrinity Thanks for sharing your plutonic journeys. I may be biased, but Pluto in late degrees Capricorn feels more 'real', and not a shadow. I wonder if you have any thoughts on that.

@jswtrinity Glad you feel about the forum this way! A warm welcome. I joined not long ago, after browsing for about a year. Best thing that happened to me, and helped me cope with Cap police on my stellium. Funnily, it also coincided with my lesser and lesser interaction on social media. We are social creatures. We need our community. So, I am glad you have found yours here. 

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@vesta "I may be biased, but Pluto in late degrees Capricorn feels more 'real', and not a shadow. I wonder if you have any thoughts on that".

Oh yes! They're all real alright! Actually, you've really made me think about this and that was a superb question. If I look back at my own journey, I was unaware of my shadows during the early transits. Some of what I was seeing that I did not like I had simply rejected/disowned. At that point, it would be fair to say I was operating at a lower vibrational frequency and acting out my upbringing. I had a good heart, but I was properly (expletive deleted) up.

It was probably the final hard conjunction to a natal (Pluto Venus), when I had to really do the right thing and let go of the unimaginable, that I really started to become aware that I was very much on a spiritual path. It was the only way I managed to get through that series of events, to be honest. Everything up until that point, I'd had a hand in it had turned out. I had contributed directly to that outcome. I wasn't entirely at fault, but I certainly was responsible for a good old slice of it. It was, but not quite, one of my worst fears manifest. Bereft doesn't describe it.

The latter transits helped explain why. At this stage of the journey, I was being confronted with people and situations, from both my past, and archetypes, that helped explain why I had developed into someone who wasn't "me" and why my worst fear played out. I got to understand the real reasons how I'd been damaged and how it had manifested. All these latter transits were still very real, but I was fortunate enough, by this stage, of having developed a profound awareness of what was my shadow and what wasn't. In many cases, I was simply being reminded of how far I had come, whilst the other party was working out their difficulties and their shadows through me. When you are self aware, and can see someone struggle in the way you did, you can't always help them see because they're not ready, so you learn to let events unfold as they will. Despite the outbursts and reckless behaviour, it's hard to be angry with these people because you sometimes understand their pain better than they do.

I will say the transit to my DSC did feel unfair. However, what I came to realise from this transit, is that I was still giving far too much of myself in order to please, like I wasn't quite good enough. It was the last hydra I had to conquer, the real beast. Medusa's head. Figure. I grew up in a Pluto in Leo environment, and my natal Pluto is in the 4th. The journey started there and it had to end there. 

I don't know about any of you all, but I am grateful to those that have entered my life during this journey, and I can't possibly feel any ill will towards them. For good or for bad, they were teachers of some measure. From a soul's perspective, those who help us grow can't really be an enemy, can they, even if it feels like it at the time? That might be my just my Sun Neptune talking...

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@vesta l do feel that it has been more real. I think Capricorn has everything to do with this but in my case with my sun being at 22 degrees it has given it a specific flavor. I finally had the recognition of my own responsibility in a lot of the trauma that l had experienced. I had to take a good hard look at myself. Previously l thought it was all other, and l thought l was a victim. I really don't see that being the case now. There was a lot of avoidance on my own part. I had not owned who l was or honored my own spirit. The more l did that, the harder they hit me. I had everything to do with so much of what l was enduring. It was not all at once but rather gradually that the shift came. I am glad to have this kind of responsibility, it changes everything.

Maybe, recognition +responsibility= reality or at least a more concrete reality. Maybe that is where the veil gets lifted? It is embarrassing  when l think l had to wait until l was 56 to get it l mean, that is far too long really. My life was smothered by a veil. I do have Neptune in the 1st so that says a great deal.

I guess thats where we jump in with the standard " better late than never."

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@ln "It is embarrassing  when l think l had to wait until l was 56 to get it"

No, it's really not. None of this is a race. If the soul takes an entire lifetime to learn just one single, solitary lesson, it's still a success. A major success. We also have to factor in that there is a time and a season for everything under the sun, and that the wisdom is often granted at the very exact time it's supposed to be 😊

Now...

Where's my pipe??? 😅

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@ln "I finally have arrived there. I never dreamed that it could ever be. I have no fear to live for the first time. As an added benefit, l have no fear of death. That comes as a package deal."

I can't begin to tell you how nice it is to read that. Of all the Pluto transits I've been through, with this being the last major one in this lifetime, I can feel there is going to be a positive shift, and I hope there will be one for you too... a new vista you can look forward to approaching.

I liked your analogy about the combine, it did make me chuckle. The pain is very real, intense and smothering. As well as the trauma of events unfolding, I used to get something akin to white noise in my head and a pressure that made me feel like my skull would implode. There would be periods of respite, but then the white noise would start again, the pressure in my head would build, and then I knew Pluto was coming back as the dread started setting in. Torture!

I loved reading this...

"Pluto must be the master of paradox; lt takes being nothing to become everything within. I think l am feeling like a whole person now." How wonderfully and succinctly put. That, right there, is the very heart of it. It's beautiful when another really gets it, like you do.

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p.s. It's interesting that you mention the number 8, as it's known as being the number of balance. Did you ever notice that Plutonic themes may have materialised/taken place with a visible placement of a number 8 somewhere in these events?  

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@jswtrinity You are right about the number 8. It has been written across a huge amount of my life. It's everywhere.

I wish you all the best in your new horizons.  

You have a light surrounding you and you are so generous in sharing that with everyone. This world needs so much what you offer, always, but especially  now. Thank you for being a lighthouse! The waves are crashing all about the world while you offer safe passage.

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@ln I can't can't begin to tell you how much I have been touched by your words. If only you could see the massive grin on my face right now! :)))

From the bottom of my heart, thank you. Smile

The truth is, I'm nothing particularly special, and certainly no more lightbringing or lovely than any single one of you here. I'm really not. Each and every one of us is the light, with a ceaseless, unending capacity for demonstrating love. I have seen so much of it here that it's virtually intoxicating.

Everyone here has revealed, or is in the process of, revealing their unique, and truly fabulous divinity. I consider being witness to that an incredible, once in a lifetime honour. 

And yes, signs and wonders. Just wonderful, aren't they!? God's quiet but beautiful way of letting us know where to go, or when we're on the right track, or when we've got a date with destiny. For approximately 15 years, I used to pass by the same street name most days. It was the adjoining street next to mine and it always resonated. It was rare where I live, but I dated a girl with that same name briefly, then met a young lady a few years later with the same name... who eventually became our children's mother. I get signs in the form of names and the number 1. Far too many for it simply to be a coincidence.

Anyway, I'm being voraciously verbose again, so...

Aimed at everyone here, I'm going to close with this, the ending of a letter from one of my favourite Plutonian-themed films, and quite possibly one of the most beautiful declarations of love ever written...

"But what I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that even though I do not know you, and even though I may not meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you: I love you.

With all my heart.

I love you."

And that, I do. Smile

Blessings to you all Smile x

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I haven't posted since the forum re-design so.....

Cap 22 degrees was where my progressed moon was in February when I had my TKR.  Since having that surgery, I am transformed from hobbling around to walking 5 miles a day! 

Mars has been in my sixth house and I feel great!  My husband retired and so we walk.... and we talk...

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I guess, all the late degree Cardinals are in mood for a major reprise of their entire life. Its been such a long long long year. I get solace in reading all the stories, and their positive manifestation of growth, dawning of understanding and emotional intelligence.

@LN I know someone whose Sun, Moon AND Mars are impacted at or near this degree. They are in their 50s too, and have aged AND grown overnight in front of my eyes. Its worth it. The losses may be monumental, but dear God, its worth it.

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I feel the pressure of transformation (still I'm far from being ressurected), but I am so tired... Pluto-Saturn paring in transit over the 4th house it's been so far one of the most challeging transits for me. I thougt I knew challenge before this, it seems I didn't. I have no cardinal planets except for cardinal energy on angles and Pluto late degree Libra in the first house conjunct Saturn. The pressure is high and most of the time I don't feel I can make it through... but not feeling hopeless and negative about it, but somehow a kind of resignation like I will never arrive... It's been a long journey of digging into the past, healing... but the more the dig the larger it gets, like it's not really ending. From here the feeling I will never arrive... Still the pressure of this energy doesn't let me go to sleep, I have to keep digging... 

I am deeply moved by the sharing of personal experiences here -  words fail me, much love & light to everyone ❤️ 

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@calliope I really hope you find that levity soon. I remember the periods of resignation, especially during some of my earlier transits, and continually wondering if it would ever end. It does, and it will. I don't know exactly where your 4th house cusp is, but the resolution will soon come after Saturn and Pluto have passed that point for the final time. I consider myself incredibly lucky, really. Pluto has cleared my DSC but still has to contact my progressed Sun for its final pass. For me, it's already over and done. It seems I've been allowed back out to play early! The only reasonable comparison I can make is being freed from a dungeon. The light takes a bit of getting used to intially, but everything soon seems brighter, more colourful and, quite simply, more vivid. The air seems fresher and for once, in a long time, there's the whiff of hope, genuine hope in the air. 

I'm sure I will not be the only one who wants you to know that we are all rooting for you. Please keep the faith, as "you" will soon be fully unleashed. It really will have been worth the wait.

Love, light and blessings to you 😊

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@jswtrinity Thank you so much for your words and support, it really gives me courage and hope 😊 

My forth house occupies almost all degress of Capricorn plus some of Aquarius, so even when Saturn and Jup chage signs, they will still be in my forth house, which means there's still lots of work to do... I'm sure the wait is worth, it just feels like decades of work sometimes and it can be discouraging. I'm hanging there... 

Much love and blessing to you 😊 

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@calliope "so even when Saturn and Jup chage signs, they will still be in my forth house, which means there's still lots of work to do..." I don't know if this will help, or not, but I've often found that the "shift" usually takes place by the time, or just after, a planet(s) has hit the angle. That shift may mean commiting to a long term goal, for example, and then rest of the transit may energise as the help or hindrance needed in meeting that goal, (or lesson, even). Obviously, it varies from person to person, but let's say you were in a toxic relationship and knew that the only way you would get free was to leave? You might decide do make that decision under such a transit. You'd get relief, at the ASC (personal identity), at the DSC (your partner) and a call to action at the IC (home). However, it may mean a bit of hardship afterwards (temporary accommodation, personal effects in storage) because you've made the decision to move out and withstand all the difficulties that may entail, especially with a planet like Saturn transiting there. The upshot is that relief has been gained everywhere else, so any hardship encountered feels "worth it". That's just an example, and perhaps an extreme one. When Saturn transited my IC, I was in an environment where I really didn't want to be, I shall be honest, but it was necessary for me to be there, as a historical aspect of my existence needed to be understood by me. However, that chapter did afford me the time to dream of the kind of place where I wanted to live... and I did end up there. During the transit, I found little places locally that resembled the kind of environment where I felt more at home, and that really helped. It wasn't a wonderful time, but it wasn't an awful time either. I really have no idea of what your personal circumstances are, but I do hope the Jupiter Saturn conjunction in December brings you a lovely gift for enduring what you have been going through. If, like me, the transit to your forth will soon be over, you can expect a positive shift. I know I did and, although not entirely smooth sailing, I ended up in a far better place than I was in. I hope you will too 😘

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@jswtrinity Thank you so much for your care and for sharing your thoughts and experience with me. I really appreciate and it helps me think about a way to handle this energy better. I'm always focusing on what I can learn and Saturn is about lessons... not only him, but especially him. When Saturn entered my 4th is was a dramatic change for me, exactly as you say: I had to let go of something I loved very much and clinged to... It was brutal and very painful, but this year, looking back, I understood that even if it was so painful I was necessary and I could let go even my regrets/ painful memories related to last year... The external conditions I live in right now require much work and I'm not where I want to be, or where I feel I want  and need... externally or internally. But I can see now how things connect and especially how clinging (I specialize in this having Saturn-Pluto natal conjunct) is harming myself... still there are many lessons to learn on the path... I really hope when Sat-Jup leave my 4th, that I can look back and make peace with the changes... It will last for a longer while, but given the fact that looking back to last year, I see what I couldn't see then, it is for me a sign of hope. I never thought it would be possible... 

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@calliope Oh bless you, I do feel for you. The passage of time is a funny thing, though. You will look back at this chapter and I will find it highly unlikely that you will regret the decisions you have come to. If you are traveling lighter, so to speak, it's usually a good sign that you are on the right path to personal inner security, too. That's one of the greatest gifts of such a transit, as it sets you up robustly for whatever comes next in your life. It really is a strength growing phase. It will also help to remove fears of moving on, having felt so stuck in a corner for so long. I'm really hopeful for you Calliope. I don't know how much longer you have left for this transit to run, but things will shift quite quickly once these planets have left your 4th house. Whatever new comes your way, via Jupiter, Saturn may make you fearful of making those changes. The solution?... Check all details and plan properly, as that will satisfy the needs of Saturn. As an example, if you were to move house, check the locality carefully, make sure you get decent removal people in to do the job, double check clauses in documents, etc. Do that, and you'll be absolutely golden. Sending you love, light and blessings

J 😊

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@jswtrinity Thank you so much 😊 Then all the Virgo in my chart should be of great help this time for checking and re-checking things 😀  

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@calliope Absolutely. Saturn rewards smart work, not necessarily harder work for hard work's sake. Virgo is sooo practical, so it should pay you dividends when it comes to dotting the i's and crossing the t's. 😊😊😊

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Pluto at this degree and the process of resurrection reminds me of the Butterfly and Cocoon story ....

"A man found a cocoon of a butterfly. One day a small opening appeared. He sat and watched the butterfly for several hours as it struggled to force its body through that little hole. Then it seemed to stop making any progress. It appeared as if it had gotten as far as it could and it could go no farther.

Then the man decided to help the butterfly, so he took a pair of scissors and snipped off the remaining bit of the cocoon. The butterfly then emerged easily. But it had a swollen body and small, shriveled wings.

The man continued to watch the butterfly because he expected that, at moment, the wings would enlarge and expand to be able to support the body which would contract in time.

Neither happened! In fact, the butterfly spent the rest of its life crawling around with a swollen body and shriveled wings. It never was able to fly.

What this man in his kindness and haste did not understand was that the restricting cocoon and the struggle required for the butterfly to get through the tiny opening were nature's way of forcing fluid from the body of the butterfly into its wings so that it would be ready for flight once it achieved its freedom from the cocoon.

Sometimes struggles are exactly what we need in our life. If nature allowed us to go through your life without any obstacles, it would cripple us. We would not be as strong as what we could have been. And we could never fly…."

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@osiris-wife You've done it again!!! 😅

These may not be your words, but you know exactly which ones to pick. Love it! 😊 

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@osiris-wife I read one time that larvae literally turn to goo (I know the feeling) in the cocoon and then recrystallize- chrysalis. It also makes me think about Monarchs (I’m on the west coast migration path. There’s a stand of trees near my favorite beach here that they stop on every year; truly magical). I guess the during the time that it takes to get to Mexico, the swarm can go through five generations of butterflies. So, personal and collective regeneration there.

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