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Friday, May 12, 2017 - 5:50 pm
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I have an interesting alignment where Saturn is conjunct Pluto but Saturn is in Scorpio in the 12th I think it is 3 degrees not sure. And Pluto is in Libra in the 11th my 10th is Libra also Pluto is at 29 degrees. Does this have any significance I'm very new to astrology so I know the basics that is it.

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Vel, I'm not sure what influence your conjunction - combining two signs, as well as two houses - brings, but I wanted to reply because I'm interested in reading what you find out.

I have Moon in Gemini conjunct Venus in Cancer.  My own thumbnail understanding of this is as an unlikely pairing - you wouldn't think they'd work as a team, but oddly enough, they do.  (Then again, Uranus is strong in my chart - I'm comfortable with oddity - so that might be my bias?)

What do you think, based on your 11th and 12th house experiences?  Also, what house system are you using?

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I think it is the placidus system. As in my chart the 10 and 11th are the same sign and my 8th house is cancer (where my north node is) but the second half of it is Leo.

My 11th and 12th house experience as of recent were not exactly pleasant. When saturn crossed my 11th and 12th it basicly changed everything I isloated myself from my friends as I wanted to try and change my life it felt as if they were holding me back. Then The job I had for 5 years I got fired from and I could not get going again then I had health problems. When saturn went into sag I got another job then when it retrograded back into scorpio I got fired an astrologer called it to the nearest day almost.

Looking back now at the friends I left, you could describe them as extreme or pluto like. 1 is a heroin adict now 1 is an alcholic 1 smokes weed all day 1 is a cocaine addict or so I've heard. Some of my friends had really very bad childhoods. I mean really bad. When I was young though we all got away from life together. It was alot of fun. But in my mid 20,s I knew I had to exit as it was going from fun to dangerous. And I knew I had to try and change my surroundings. To be honest I think my life has stalled for 5 years trying to figure out how to get it going again and I did feel like I had been in some kind of prison. However I have learned alot about myself being on my own. I am comfortable being on my own and I don't need to have friends that protect me from my insecurities infact it holds me back I have a strong will and a disciplined mind. I stopped drinking drugs and smoking after a decade of it cold turkey with no help. I was talking to a family member about some of my problems and she said just relax and have a simple life and enjoy it you don't have to try be a millionaire or anything. But I would not be happy and it is achievable and just knowing that makes it eat away at me. I would say scorpio pluto and saturn describes this hole outlook and my experience. Extremes, friends that go to extreme and solitude for long periods my Pluto is square my moon in Capricorn that is conjunct the south node so I really want to find out more on this section of my chart I think it is important. 

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I think having friends is extremely important.  One true friend, at the minimum (maximum number for real friendship is in the low numbers, too).

Having a loose network, of friends-to-some degree, and assorted people who are friends to them, and acquaintances as well, is worth putting effort toward building.  Letting people know you, by  your actions and your behavior, over time.  And you taking the time to know - through observation - them.  I have Pluto in 11th, which is how I know this.

Those  friends you "left," don't seem to have been friends, by the time you recognized that you were... beating a dead horse, there (i.e. that horse is not going anywhere, ever again).

It's a hard road to travel, those stretches of time when the network we had is gone, until one little overture at a time, we reconnect with people who are available for establishing new aquaintances.  Travelling through a desert, a current friend and I call it.

Have you tried calculating your chart at astro.com's extended chart selections, using equal houses?  To see if it changes any house-planet placements?  (It would be interesting to compare, and then you could see which system makes more sense to you, from an insider's perspective.)

In fact, how about posting both versions, in your topic here.  As a bonus, more people would reply - most of us understand better when we can see a chart.  smile

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Wednesday, May 17, 2017 - 10:46 am
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I went to that site and did not understand the options menu that is alot of options. I did not see any fixed or placidus option and even this chart I dont understand the symbols or the table. I dont know if it is the same as cafe astrology or not. But here it is

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Ah, Vel, you'll get the knack, eventually.

Myself, I've been hugely preoccupied with things that are happening offline (aka irl) - so, my participation on these forums has been hindered.

So sorry that after you posted your chart, no one replied!  Hang on, surely someone will!  If no, me, but not at the moment - too many other things, just now.  Statement of facts, while I repeat that your OP deserves replies - my poor brain is overloaded temporarily.  There are some brilliant people, who read here.  I hope that at least one of them chimes in to reply to you.  smile

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