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Hi, my previous post got deleted somehow. but i'm wanting to know if anyone has gotten out of a neptune transit and how they feel. did thier vitality and who they are return? please share your expereinces. thanks. 

 

in my transits i have: neptune opposite moon, progressed sun conjunct natal neptune and progressed neptune, Neptune trine Sun, venus and jupiter. 

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here is my chart with current transits. 

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@lakers248 Second time lucky, hopefully!

Ok, it's absolutely no accident that you've landed here!

You were born with a Saturn Pluto conjunction in late Libra and it is currently in a square aspect to the stellium of Jupiter, Saturn and Pluto transiting through Capricorn. Jupiter amplifies, Saturn constricts, Pluto sweeps away... and you will probably be able to relate to some of that.

Have you being feeling particularly tired over the last year, finding that it's eased off for a while and then returned with a vengeance?

Saturn is just applying its final square to your natal Saturn Pluto conjunction. The good news is... it'll all be over by Christmas.

This Saturn square is challenging you to consider making some changes if your life isn't currently going in the direction you would like it to. The genesis of this goes back some 7 years ago when you had your first Saturn return. How did life change for you back then? What life direction did you embark upon? Is it still relevant? Are you on the way to meeting any goals you set yourself back then? You don't need to answer me, they are simply points for you to consider. This can be a really heavy transit that creates obstacles, slows you down, can cause a general sense of heaviness, depression and lowered self esteem. With Jupiter transiting this point of the sky, some of these effects may feel amplified. The point of this transit is that it is a cue to start planning to make some adjustments/life changes that can be put into action once the transit is over. Now is the time to plan, not act, as it'll be like wading through treacle and you'll encounter more obstacles than you need to navigate otherwise. Once the transit is over, nearer to Christmas, obstacles in your path will start to clear, your energy levels should rise, making it easier for you to put your plans in motion.

Because Pluto moves more slowly than Saturn, you will have a square to this same point in a about a year or so's time. If your birth time really is accurate, whatever isn't working for you, in terms of friends, groups, local journeys, siblings, short trips and neighbours is likely to be changed markedly. If not, then it will be friends and groups connected with your self worth or resources that are due for a change.

Either way, your mood and energy should lift by Christmas.

One word of warning though. With Neptune influencing your chart, please make sure that any changes you decide to make are grounded in reality, or can be verified in some way. If not, you could be open to self deception, or being deceived by others, so be careful. If something comes along, like a job offer, and it sounds too good to be true, especially if you have to pay for the opportunity, then it probably is. That's just an example, by the way.

I hope that helps.

Please keep us posted and let us know how you are getting on.

Best

J Smile

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@jswtrinity i did do something during the transits and i did get decieved by others so this helps a lot. thanks Justin for posting this. thanks.

 

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Hey lakers248,

I had a Neptune transit to Venus, Mercury and IC years ago (it was by conjunction.) The transit lasted a good 2.5 years or more and it started a few years after transiting Neptune had squared my Ascendant.

I drifted for years, studied a few degrees and travelled to and lived in various countries. Didn't work much for years. Couldnt find a profession that fitted me. Didn't find my vocation till transiting Uranus conjuncted my Sun whilst I was still having the Neptune transit. So I found clarity (Uranus awakened my vocational purpose in life) yet still felt lost (Neptune transit still active.) Once the Neptune transit was really over I decided to work again and found work really quickly - I was awake and clear. I have worked ever since but I didn't for 6 years during the transits (!!)

Neptune transits can make one lose years of their lives and although I don't feel I wasted my time I did waste financial assets and social ladder opportunities during the transit so some years ago, when I saw that Neptune would eventually square my Moon and then conjunct my Sun by transit (I'm currently receiving the transit to my Sun, the Moon one has passed) I devised a plan.

The plan meant remaining busy working (making sure as a freelancer that I had work always) yet making lots of spaces for idleness, escapism (films), music, feeling lost, melancholy/low moods...during the working week not only the weekend. My drive was to work and still be lost because with Neptune one gets or feels lost.

This time around I have a mortgage and I'm married so I have more obligations towards myself and others. 

Progressed Sun (in your natal 2nd house) conjunct Neptune is an important progression. Progressed Sun conjunctions are mega active and bring changes even when the natal Sun and the natal planet being conjuncted by the p.Sun are not linked in the natal chart.

P. Sun is illuminating Neptune matters for you and Neptune in your chart is one of the rulers of your natal IC and 4th house cusp so 4th house matters and 2nd house (where your natal Neptune is) matters link now. Look at 2nd and 4th house significations to get insights.

Transiting Neptune is trining again your natal Jupiter (the other co-ruler of Pisces/4th house/IC) conjunct your Ascendant so 4th and 1st house matters somehow get a beneficial link via that trine (a Jupiter type aspect) to natal Jupiter in the 1st house/Ascendant. Some good stuff happened during the first transiting Neptune trine to Jupiter/Ascendant that is emphasised or expanded now.

With that transit of Neptune to your Moon by opposition your usual grounding and discernment (natal Moon in Virgo) has been 'fogged out'/Neptunised massively. Matters of relationships (the opposition aspect) and boundaries/suffering/helping/loss/confusion/victim-saviour themes are activated. The houses involved in all those themes activated with that transit are: 10th (where Moon is); 9th (house Moon rules); 4th (where transiting Neptune is); and 2nd (natal Neptune house.)

Looking at significations of those houses can help.

Natally your Moon is squared by Neptune so based on your age and many life experiences you will have experience/history facing struggles, decisions and tensions (the square aspect, a very active natal aspect always trying to find balance) around how those two planets behave/express themselves in your life and chart and how those struggles/tensions/decisions link to the houses ruled by the two planets and the houses where they find themselves (10th and 2nd.)

The transit of Neptune to Moon allows you to work on issues from that natal aspect and it will be through relationships somehow because of the opposition aspect.

Just a last thing. My vitality returned after the transits are over, yes. Mysterious illnesses or reactions disappear. With Moon Neptune weird allergies come up I find.

As I have Neptune aspects to planets natally I do have a level of fatigue I simply have to manage closely but during Neptune transits...uff I'm mega tired. I take more vitamins and take Coq10.

Hope this helps. It was a long post and I maybe spoke of astro things you already know. Good luck!

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@cris thanks cris, nice to know your energy levels returned as i hope i do as well. i never knew natally with moon square neptune i'd face obstacles at least that explains why when im tryig to do something for myself obstacles are always present. 

 

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@lakers248

With the square aspects I find one is always trying to sort something out. Soon after one thing is sorted something else needs attention.

The square is constant friction/tension requiring a balancing act (but a different balancing act than an opposition requires.) 

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@cris so neptune square to moon isn't as rough as the transit i'm experiencing neptune opposite moon. i just cant wait till the tired feeling is gone and i get some energy back in me and the boudaries harden up again. esp the psychic boundaries. as people are taking advantage of it. 

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@cris Hi Cris Smile I've learnt as much about you in this one post than the sum total of all the others!

I hope you had a good weekend? Smile

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Weekend was quiet. The last weeks have been personally stressful and sad so quiet is all I wish for.

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@cris I'm so sorry to hear that Cris, with reference to the sadness and stress in your life. I hope the sun comes out for you again before too long. Sending you love and light Smile

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@jswtrinity speaking of the sun coming out. could neptune  transits to the sun,

cloud our personal sun from shinning thus creating a dull of inner light shinning for us?

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@lakers248 In a word, yes. Think of it as the sun behind a misty sky. It's there, but obscured. Often, it tends to have an external manifestation too, i.e. other people don't "see" you, or find you nebulous, evasive, off in the clouds, etc.,... but you seem to have been hit by it at a very deep, personal level, judging by what you've said. As with a lot of these energies, it can work both ways. I've lived with Neptunian energy all my life and it is really extreme in my chart, possibly enough to send some people drifting off aimlessly for their entire life, but I can acknowledge its blessings too. I don't know, but I know there are a lot of people who simply don't get me and can't even begin to fathom where I am coming from... but that's OK. Our experiences are uniquely our own. I live with the "feeling" that I have one foot almost permanently stuck in the other world, whilst the other is firmly planted in this one. I can't "see" the other side, I can only "feel" it, but that sense has guided me to some wonderful life experiences. Ending up here, on this forum, is one of them. When I was younger, I was always susceptible to psychic vampires too, and was easily drained by very negative people. I'm used to that now, have built up defences, which is very important, so I don't become overwhelmed by feelings that don't belong to me. So yes, I can fully understand that these energies could be really discombobulating, especially for those who aren't familiar with how Neptune works. I've had nearly 50 years of it, so I ought to have learnt something by now! Lol

Cris gave some really very sage advice about watching films, being creative, carrying out grounding rituals, walk bare foot on the grass, spend time near bodies of water, etc., as these things really do help. Like Cris, I get lost in films regularly, so much so that I shoot my own artistic films now and have my own home cinema. It's not the Vue, granted, but it suits my needs perfectly. There's the added benefit of being able to press the pause button when nature calls, as you don't get that luxury in a cinema!!! For me, that is a healthy way of indulging the Neptune energy... without falling prey and getting totally lost in it. That is the key with Neptune, not getting lost in it. If there's a creative pursuit you enjoy, now would be the time to incorporate it into your life. If you don't have one, do some searching. I have Neptune transit my MC right now, and I know I am supposed to be here. All of you on this forum are incredibly important in some way, and the best use of my Neptunian energy is by being of service here, if I can. Please believe me, I get as much back as anything I put out, so it's not as if I'm some kind of spiritual guru or what have you. I won't be able to devote the time to it in future, in the way I can right now, but it's a healthy Neptunian outlet, as everyone here has something of value to offer everyone else.

Spending time with us, may actually benefit you whilst these transits are in effect. There's some truly wonderful souls here. Please trust that because there's a lot of love on this forum and many, many lifetimes of rich life experience. Smile

p.s. Prominent Neptune can also have the added benefit of making you look quite a lot younger than your years. Believe me, when you get to my age, that ain't half something to be grateful for!!! Lol 😉

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@jswtrinity thanks for this post, i wish i knew how to build up defenses from not asborbing in more so not being taken from others. Thank you again for this post.

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@lakers248 Maybe, just maybe, it might be an idea to sit down and write down what you believe you are worth and be objectively honest about it, so no hiding your light under a bushel. Try and write it as if you were observing someone else just like you, if it makes you feel less self conscious. I suspect, and I could be wrong, that you are suffering with a lack of self worth right now, but that's truly a state of mind and not a state of being. If you really consider it honestly, I bet there are stacks of things about you that are truly wonderful, unique and enviable. One way of changing your vibrational state and developing a bit of psychic armour, is by learning to acknowledge what is lovely about you. You matter, and to someone you are the world, whether you believe it or not right now. It won't be immediate but, as you grow in appreciation of yourself, you'll begin to notice a change in other people toward you too. Perhaps ask yourself if you would ever take advantage of anyone else in the same way you are being taken advantage of? Would you cross another's boundaries in the way yours are being crossed? The answers will tell you about the strength and value of these relationships, and whether they are worth redefining, salvaging or being kicked into the dustbin of history.

It truly is better to be alone than be escorted to a party by the wrong person. It took me 35 years to see the wisdom in that saying. The trouble is, if we get too low, we end up in a never ending perpetual cycle that reinforces any negative view we may be harbouring about ourselves by the people we attract. Whilst I agree that Neptune can be a drag, it's more likely to be the heavy Saturn energy that is really depressing you and bringing you down right now, in tandem. The Saturnian energy will clear by December, which should make dealing with the Neptunian energy just that little bit easier. As for the Neptune influences, progressed Moon aspects last a couple of months and progressed Sun aspects last about a couple of years, allowing for orbs. 

I promise, this dark cloud, this too shall pass. It really will.

You do know that you are likely to have some kind of empathic/psychic gift, don't you? It'll be worth exploring when you are in a better place. Although, I wouldn't advocate it now, as you're clearly a bit too vulnerable. 

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@jswtrinity Thanks again, you seem to be psychic with my self-worth. i do recognize my gifts but like you said right now is not the best time to do anything. Also do you know what planets placement in a chart causes mind control? I've been dealing with that from otheres since around 2017 and I have no idea whats causing this strong psychic mind control/mind reading from a few family members.

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@lakers248 I'd love to say I was psychic and I sincerely thank you for the compliment... but it's actually in your horoscope chart! Lol

The mind control question is tricky. It really depends on the placements in the mind controller's birthchart, i.e. a negatively expressed, unevolved Pluto types, and...

...your vulnerability right now. You are acutely sensitive to such things anyway, as you have acknowledged, which is why keeping your distance from such people is incredibly important if you can't dissipate, divert or ground their negative energy. Psychic vampires are real, and are often unknowingly harmful. Some of them are not even aware of what they are doing, as their motivations are often driven by unconscious drives that are not visible to them. That can make it even scarier.

Personally, I believe you are being challenged to develop your intuitive gift further and take it to the next level. I am really no expert, so dismiss what I say at will, but I would impress upon you to read as many sources as you can regarding protecting yourself from such influences. Why so many varied sources? Because whatever you find that is true to them all is likely to be a step in the right direction, especially if your judgement is off. I'm so aware that you could be lead down the garden path right now, that my best advice would be to read, read and read some more. Keeping "safe" amongst us, where the is no judgement, is probably a good idea too.

I have noticed there is very little to no aggression popping out in your chart, so I would be fairly comfortable in asserting that any angry energy you sense coming your way is very unlikely to be yours. Just an observation... Smile

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@jswtrinity Thanks again for looking at my chart. for some reason i'm so fascinated by neptune and what it does to someone never felt a planet so strongly.

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@lakers248 I believe you can take that as a hint, then! Our soul incarnates in order to learn lessons, to become closer to the divine, to escape the karmic cycle. Well, that's my belief. You've obviously incarnated in order to meet this challenge, or you wouldn't be here. Life on earth is governed by duality, night and day, birth and death etc. So, if you want to get the best out of Neptune, it's like I said before, explore it but don't get lost in it. Find a way of keeping yourself tethered (grounded/anchored), so that you don't lose your way in your explorations. As long as you keep that in mind, any adventure you embark upon will add richness to your life without you finding yourself done over and metaphorically lost at sea. That's the thing with Neptune. On a beach the sea is so inviting. At sea, or under the sea, you can soon get completely lost and disoriented. Any practice that smacks of complete disembodiment should be avoided, so be particularly careful with techniques like astral projection, or dabbling with mind- altering drugs. I'm not at all suggesting you are the type, but it's something to be very aware of. Smile

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@jswtrinity thank you Smile can you see anything in my chart that would block my inner light or from me connecting to my spiritual side as i'm facing a big block at the moment despite all efforts.

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@jswtrinity thank you Smile can you see anything in my chart that would block my inner light or from me connecting to my spiritual side as i'm facing a big block at the moment despite all efforts.

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@lakers248 Only the Saturn square, which can be really depressing and heavy...and I never underestimate it. Think back to ages 7, 14, 21 and 28 (or a year either side). Weren't they heavy periods? All Saturn, every single one... plus other sh#t thrown into the mix if you were unlucky. However, they were all turning points as well. If you've understood much of what I have written, now is the time to "plan" changes, but not act on them. You'll see, it'll all come out right in the wash... No pun intended ?

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@jswtrinity Thank you. yes it's heavy indeed.I've got the plan down just need to take action but also be careful of neptune transits. thanks again.

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@lakers248 You are most welcome. Just don't forget to let us know how you are getting on though, as it'd be nice to know that you have made it through to the other side of this in good spirits and good shape.

Best, always

J Smile

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@jswtrinity will do Justin. thanks again.

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@jswtrinity please see my new post on progressed sun aspect. maybe you have some insights on progressions.

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@lakers248 One more thing...

You've mentioned your vulnerability to negative people and being taken advantage of. It happens under this placement, and it sucks, especially if your energies could be better utilised for betterment elsewhere. It is so important to avoid such people when you feel this exposed, or find a way to be open without absorbing their energy. To some, this could sound crackpot, but it is a very real experience. At the moment, it's likely that your internal antennae are cranked way up to 11. If you suddenly start feeling low, angry, upset or fearful around other people, find an escape route and, when you have a bit of space between you, really ask yourself if these feelings belong to you. 9 times out of 10, you'll discover that they probably don't. Once you have an awareness of this, it will be easier for you to build up a filter, where you can choose whether to accept what is being emitted, or deflect it away. Deflecting straight back is a recipe for disaster, with sometimes dire consequences, as there are still many folk you may come into contact with who won't/can't own their own sh#t. As kids, overly negative people around me usually ended up with me lashing out because I could only take so much of what they were emanating. It wasn't until much later, when I closely observed my own children (who both have very prominent Neptunes on their Asc) that I realised you can end up being a vessel for other people's emotions and energy. As with anything physical, there is only a limited carrying capacity for these vibrational states. It can work with both the negative and the positive, too. Even after much consideration, I simply couldn't put it down to the Moon reflecting back, as we all have ours in different signs. However, they both react almost instinctively in the same way that I used to. My children have never seen me raise my fists, and have rarely heard me raise my voice even, but I have seen how they have slowly and incrementally changed in temperament around aggressive, bullying children, for example, especially my daughter. My beloved, beautiful, kind hearted princess is as gentle as a lamb. Her soft natured spirit frequently puts mine to shame. However, she can be proded, proded, and proded some more, without reacting, then BOOM, like a pressure cooker, she will go off like an atom bomb (She also has a strong Mars and Saturn). It's not mirroring, as all the energy is unleashed after a lengthy build up, a bit like a tsunami. As adults, we learn to contain, or at least manage these impulses, but being exposed to it can make you a somewhat vulnerable with a strong Neptune... Handling it can be especially challenging if it's adversely aspected by a malefic, like Mars or Saturn, because of the volatile mix of aggression and absorbed feelings, which are often emotional in nature. Again, as with all placements, there is a chain reaction effect, where the energy from one will spark the energy in another. In my daughter's case, she has the same Mars Neptune and Mars Saturn as her Dad, and my son has Neptune opposite Sun, in quincunx to Mars. He behaves a little differently but reacts similarly when enough is enough.

I digress, as your challenges are a bit different in nature...

With your moon in aspect to Neptune, your emotions are an area of vulnerability. If other people accuse you of being downbeat, when normally you aren't, there's a good likelihood that you are being used as a vessel to reflect back their negativity... but at a cost to your emotional health, as you are likely to be brought down by that kind of interaction. How many times has someone said they feel better, after having been around you, only for you to feel like you've done 12 rounds in the boxing ring? If I may, I would really strongly recommend reading Astrology King's interpretation of Moon square Neptune. It's an insightful read. This placement bestows a number of challenges, granted, but there are also some truly wonderful gifts inherent that you may wish to explore. 

You are not alone Smile

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@jswtrinity my awareness seems lost or misdirected now. i'm guessing thats also neptune. it's as if i dont have that connection to my awareness anymore and ti freaks me out. i'm hoping thats neptune and it goes away soon. how many degree's past before things get better.

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@lakers248 I allow for up to a few degrees. 2 on applying and 1 on separating. Generally though, once the aspect is past exact, the energy has released most of its energy and "dissipates" quite quickly with the Sun. The outer planets' energy tends to hang around a lot longer... but that's because they do! 😉

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@cris how is my moon squared by neptune? i thought a square was 90 degree's. Unless i'm calculating wrong.

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@lakers248

I use many traditional and Hellenistic astrology ideas so use sign-based aspects apart from degree-based aspects.

There is a sign-based square between Virgo and Sagittarius so your Moon and Neptune are squared natally.

With the Sun and Moon (the luminaries) I use wider orbs for natal aspects (12 degrees maximum) so your Moon makes a wide approaching square to Neptune (a degree-based square with a 8 degree orb.)

You have a natal Moon square Neptune aspect. The red line in your chart is that square.

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