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Is it easy to be caught up in evil?
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Monday, September 11, 2017 - 4:35 pm
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Caitlin said
Read an chapter in a very interesting book the other day that gave me something to chew on with this topic:

“Evil is not the opposite of God, evil is a manifestation of God. What then is the purpose of evil? Why does God allow evil to exist?… It is not a matter of purpose and allowing, it is a matter of the unconditional nature of God’s shlemut [completeness]. If God is God, God must contain all possibilities, everything and its opposite. Good and evil are but two of the infinite possibilities of God.”

(emphasis mine)  

That’s a little deep for my taste. 

It makes you think why nature lets craziness run amok in this world. 

Maybe Yin and Yang are just metaphors for heaven and hell. But then again, that’s not

a Christian, or Catholic, concept, so that’s a ‘radical’ concept to some.

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I think it’s way easier to commit or be caught up in evil than it is to do good. I think it’s the path of least resistance. You don’t even have to think because someone will do the thinking for you. You can turn off your brain. You might even trick yourself that it’s “someone else’s fault” because “they made me do it”. “You’re just following what other people ordered or wanted.” You might think you won’t be caught, and you might not. Nobody might ever know, but you do.

Doing good requires self-control, sacrifice, responsibility, and backbone. Saturn! It can be hard. It requires you to resist temptation to do evil. It requires you to get over your fears and do the right thing.

In shows with good vs. evil, the hero always gets an offer where he is tempted to join evil. He may also be tempted to give up in order to live a normal life or look the other way. It would be super easy for him to stop fighting evil because what does he get out of it? He’s a vigilante. He can’t have a love life. He makes sacrifices for the greater good. The only thing standing between him and evil is his integrity, values, and beliefs. If you have none (i.e. Machiavellian attitude) or they are weak, it is extremely easy to commit or be caught up in evil because there are “no immediate or visible benefits” from adhering to a moral standard. The benefit is spiritual. The Machiavellian attitude is self-sabotaging if you have a conscience because it will make you pay everything back.

If people knew how much it would cost them, or how much of their future it would cost them, they might decide to endure the lighter punishment than sell out their soul for a lifetime of punishment.

There was a girl who was swayed by a sociopath to stab their best friend to death. She was in love, or so she thought. They would’ve gotten away with it, if she didn’t have a conscience. Nobody could find the body. Six months later, she turned herself in and helped the police. She was suicidal because she was eaten up with guilt and couldn’t live with what she had done. She was tricked and tricked herself in the moment, but when she regained clarity, she realized what she had done and couldn’t cope.

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I think if we’re talking about capital-E “Evil” where the choice is pretty clear, then it comes down to the person having a weak sense of self.

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Well, it is understood by studying history that people can get caught up in evil, but it has to be born from somewhere. Like, I don’t think most of the people manning the gulags in the Soviet Union were evil, but I know Stalin was. Those people were caught up in Stalin’s evil, but their own greatest evil was their ignorance and selfishness… not outward desire to be dealers of pain.

Real evil comes from abuse, sociopathy, narcissism… all of that crap. 

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I think evil lures you in and you get trapped and can’t get out, just like a bug drawn to a Venus Fly Trap or a Pitcher Plant.  You may have no evil intentions at all, but you become part of it, like it or not.  Out of fear, you may just go along with the program to save yourself.

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I am in the minority I guess- I don’t think a person can become evil if they aren’t already. I mean anyone can make a thoughtless comment or be mean in a way that they regret and can be forgiven- but actual evil I don’t think you can be caught up in. It’s more like birds of a feather, flocking evilly together. 🙂 

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Blend the dark side of Pluto in Capricorn with the merky side of Neptune in Pisces you will create a distorted image of right and wrong. This cosmic soup will be with us till 2024 so its something that should be addressed. I believe people need to be very careful as to what images they take in.  The last transit of Neptune in Pisces was 1847 – 1862 previous to our current one. Many things under the Neptune realm did not exist then, for example motion pictures and the various pharmaceutical commonly used today. There are many unknowns. Still I believe these factors can create individual behaviors in certain individuals that wouldn’t exist if not exposed to these would be subconscious triggers.

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Do you think the power of evil appeals to the ego? Not addressed at anyone in particular

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Tam said
Do you think the power of evil appeals to the ego? Not addressed at anyone in particular  

Interesting question. My husband votes no.

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It’s part of God’s plan for some people to be evil. So that he can prove Satan that he can save even evil people. 

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Then it must be lack of discernment that is the problem if it isn’t the appeal of power. 

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Tuesday, November 14, 2017 - 11:53 pm
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Very interesting topic. I mean… What a topic right?

One I don’t have an answer to. 

However, if we ever do overpower the evildoers in our midst I vote that we do all that we can to help them. To kind of ‘save their souls’. Although clearly the act of overpowering them would include a lot of them having to be killed.

I’m watching the extended version of Lord of the Rings at the moment. The extended version has a lot of relevant things in it, for instance, it properly introduced the Shire so you connect with the characters more. 

It is more biblical than things that are openly biblical. Any scene with the ringwraiths definitely has those sorts of themes about it. They way they draw their swords in complete silence and in a choreographed manner!

If we were living under Nazi Germany, if the world slid down into even greater negativity than it is currently in, everyone gets their hands dirty. 

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Although I would note that when you are on twitter and there are a lot of… just assholes. That is a very deliberate choice. 

I notice that those who are seemingly bad people seem to have no fear of being bad… Ironically! They are full of self righteousness often!

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Kumquat said
I am in the minority I guess- I don’t think a person can become evil if they aren’t already. I mean anyone can make a thoughtless comment or be mean in a way that they regret and can be forgiven- but actual evil I don’t think you can be caught up in. It’s more like birds of a feather, flocking evilly together. 🙂   

 I agree kumquat, True evil is a state of being versus say being a sinner. We all sin but not all are Evil. Maybe its the state of being where the conscience is seared like it states in the bible. Which in todays terms would be a psychopath.
 

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For example, the Apostle Paul, formerly the brutal Saul before he literally ‘saw the Light.’. Acts 8-9

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