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Hey everybody,
I'm a long time lurker on the forum here, & outside my level of understanding with a thing....was hoping to pick your brains about this!

I have a strong mars Jupiter signature natally:
Mars (26 Gemini) conjunct MC (@17 Gemini) & square Jupiter@22 Virgo (conjunct Ascendant @17 Virgo)
The 2021 solar return looks pretty big to me! I'm attaching both natal & solar return charts below.
My return mars sits tightly on return ASC & conjunct natal Jupiter. The return MC is conjunct natal mars.
This is all a very long winded way of saying that the mars-Jupiter-MC play from my natal is uber-emphasised in the next solar return.
However, I found very little useful info on a prominent solar return mars on the internet, as opposed to the sun-moon stuff which is covered in a lot more detail.
Know any good sources that cover this aspect? Or, what's your experience from something similar?
Thanks for reading!

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Just to add, the first chart is natal & second one is solar return (the one with sun moon conjunct)... I'm sorry, I can't seem to modify the post anymore.

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I think you are complicating matters by focusing on the detail instead of the bigger picture.

You have a New Moon Solar Return almost to the minute (Sun-Moon conjunct). So yes, 2021/2022 is a big year for you; possibly of new beginnings – not necessarily events but also new awareness.

SR Sun-Moon (New Moon) in 12th is in a tight flowing aspect with SR Uranus in 8th so I suspect you may go through sudden awareness and/or a transformation without it necessarily being unpleasant e.g. things that may have been hidden from you may become clearer, like the aha feeling. Perhaps through a new spiritual or creative pursuit (Mars-Jupiter) is where you might achieve the most growth. So, Mars-Jupiter would be alignment of your actions with your thinking in a way that supports your transforming beliefs. SR Mars is opposed by SR Neptune that also tightly opposes n.Jupiter; some outdated ways of thinking may need to dissolve, which may challenge you to think and change how you act, speak, your appearance or relationships with others. These changes may result in new experiences, creations and relationships that are more aligned with your changing purpose. When our SR angles are mirrors of Natal angles, it often reflects a year of actualization of a natal promise.

I think a bigger picture (Jupiter) might serve your growth better. Mercury in Virgo 12th can often find themselves spinning into anxiety over detail they find confusing or detail that cannot be explained through logic reason. But, yet Neptune (12th) demands surrender.

A lot of this might make more sense around June/July-August 2021 when t.Neptune gets closer to your n.Jupiter and t.Uranus nears 14* Taurus heading for a potentially welcomed liberating encounter with your n.Sun at 14* Virgo.

This all has more to do with your Saturn Return.

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@osiris-wife
Hey thanks so much for the very detailed comment! Yeah I'm well aware of that tight new moon sf laugh
The way you've put everything together makes a lot of sense actually; I guess I was a tiny bit worried about the angular mars-jupiter aspect....it can be a lot of work! & that's just speaking from experience, as I have something very similar natally as well. But I guess it'll come down ultimately to what I make of the astrological promise.
Anyways, I appreciate your insight a lot!

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@gogol

All roads lead to your chart ruler Mercury in Virgo 12th.

Mars in Gemini – e.g. your actions are likely more a function of what you think (Gemini ruled by Mercury).

Jupiter in Virgo – your beliefs might be largely a function of what you think (Virgo ruled by Mercury).

So, when you say Mars-Jupiter is a lot of work, in most cases it is because of Mercury.

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@gogol your chart looks like well similar to my chart in 2021 I’ve been panicking over this for days now I almost thought I was reading a post from myself! My bday is September 14th I’m a 12th house Virgo sun,Mercury and Jupiter my solar return I have mars in the 12th house squaring Neptune in the 6th and Uranus in the 8th house not knowing what to expect now I’m going back and checking older s/r to see if I’ve experienced anything with those aspects before 

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@mirandag hi! Sorry, I haven't been able to participate as much around here for some time now. Work takes up most of my time these days, Saturn return year ;).
While I'm not familiar with your particular situation in life, I'd just like to say that fear and stress are not going to make you feel any better. At times like these,I find it comforting to know that we can only control our own self, not others. After that, who knows. Things may not turn out to be as dire as you imagine, & even if it does, it's comforting to know that you've done all you can.

Please take care of yourself! I'm sure you'll be just fine, as will I. We'll both be ok 😊.

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I just had a look at your other posts, and YES we have VERY similar charts! Also, I totally agree with Elsa here.
Unless I miss my guess, you do have an Aries moon, yes? From one control freak (Cap moon, me), to another, if the charts are causing you so much stress, then f**k the charts, you don't need to use it! Focus on things (and people) that uplift and support you, not cause a breakdown.

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@gogol  you and @elsa are so right I need to chill and think positive so things can flow I can’t control it after all !

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@gogol we will be okay! I know it and I’m also not able to be on here much except for these last 3 days because I’ve been working doubles constantly at work as well in my first Saturn return mines in the 5th house! I have 3 kids too so when I come home the work doesn’t stop lol

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