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Vince
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There is a fine line between denying allegations presented by reputable news sources and not dignifying baseless accusations presented by unproven, fringe internet forums. The sole source is again the QAnon forums on 4chan, just like the repeatedly debunked "pizzagate" scandal. Even legitimate news sources that have quoted the story have no references other than things posted there. There may be allegedly thousands of images, but those would be even easier to fake with current technology. It is also worth noting, the computer repair technician who allegedly took possession of the device from Hunter Biden is documented as legally blind. 

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@vince the stuff looks real to me but you seem to know more about it than I do.   I work on this site, all the time, so I'm not really tracking origins of the story or anything like that. I don't have time for that. But I do see the stuff and do think it's real in this case.

If you think otherwise, I agree to disagree. 

Also, since this is an astrology forum, how about we get back on topic?

Does his chart show that he would be falsely accused?

 

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@elsa Jupiter is strong in its natural ninth house and doesn't look like he is getting any Neptune aspects that might lead to some conjusion. So no, I don't see any evidence he would be anymore prone to being falsely accused.

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@vince Joe Biden has said he hasn't taken money but no one has said it doesn't belong to Hunter. His name is on the receipt. there are pictures and videos. His business partners in the email chain confirm it's real. Hunter's lawyer has tried to get it back. It's his.

edit to add: the newspaper that reported the story, The New York Post is the oldest continuously running newspaper who incidentally endorsed Joe Biden.

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They have not denied it was his, they have Hunter's pictures, his signature on the receipt when he dropped it off, and his lawyer has since tried to get it BACK! It's his and they can't deny it. It is damning evidence of the corrupt influence peddling that is pervasive in Washington. His partners have confirmed that Joe knew about it all

The fact that the FBI had it during the impeachment debacle when these topics were being brought up---AND kept quiet---implicates them as well.

Sadly Big Tech and the mainstream media are willing to supress the story this because they are also corrupt. They are willing to publish any and all negative unsubstaniated and/or illegally obtained info about Trump but not their boy Biden. They give you some Nanny State reason but the real reason is they never got over losing the election 4 years ago.

They need to repeal Section 230.

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I've always find it hard to look at the moon in a chart when there is no accurate birth time.  Even a few degrees this way or that can make a significant difference.

Anyway, when looking at issues of public reputation and family scandal, don't the angles and houses really count when it comes to transits? 

On top of that, I'm not sure it's wise to speculate using (incomplete) astrology when the allegations - true or false - are so serious and could have consequences for the election and potentially the world. 

I'd say the astrology for everyone at the moment is pretty fraught.  With Mars and Mercury retrograde tension building, and the lead up to the full moon conjunct Uranus, it seems easy to believe the worst of people, have it simmer and simmer and then suddenly ex/implode. 

Sorry to be a party pooper, but that's just how I feel about this kind of thing and felt it necessary to say so.

(This Uranus Taurus full moon will exactly oppose my natal moon and conjunct natal Chiron in 7th house - yay! :-D)

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@lis303 point taken on the time. But the Jupiter Saturn conjunction suspecting his natal Jupiter Saturn opposition suggests it is the truth and it may very well change the world.

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@elsa Yes, I wouldn't like this in my chart!  But it suggests to me a focus of intense conflicting energies and might actually provide an opportunity for someone to learn balance with this opposition in their chart.

Out of curiosity, what makes you think that the result of this T-square will bring the truth?  

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@lis303 Jupiter represents the truth.

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@elsa  Ok, I guess that's my point - how can the astrology point us to what is the real truth?

It may be that you're right and the truth (Jupiter) conjunct karma / responsibility (Saturn) indicates that the Hunter Biden laptop is genuine.  

The T-square could also reveal that it's part of a smear campaign.  

Or there's a third option we're not yet even aware of!  

And some people are going to feel either very triumphant or distressed by either outcome according to their choice of president in this election.  

Working with astrology has helped me a lot but in this case, there's a danger of trying to make the astrology back up what we believe and what we want an outcome to be.

With this conjunction, I feel it's important to stay open to the possibility of a bigger (Jupiter) tougher (Saturn)  picture, heed the lesson of the Saturn/Pluto conjunction in terms of humility when dealing with the unknown depths, and hold space and conserve energy for that. 

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@lis303 I don’t see anyone here doing what you are talking about. Possibly you are actually the one with a bias.

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@libra-noir  Because there isn't a lot of verified information on the issue (or HB's natal chart), it stands to reason that any astrological interpretation (including mine) will be nuanced and subject to bias. 

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It isn't only the laptop. Former business associate Tony Bobulinski came out as a whistleblower after Hunter and his family cheated him in a business deal with a Chinese energy company. Hunter's arrangement in Ukraine with Burisma Energy where he made at least $50k a month and had no experience. It all stinks to high heaven and its being exposed now.

I think transiting Uranus conjunct Hunter's natal Saturn and opposing his natal Jupiter is exposing all of these dirty dealings. That aspect is still in effect since Uranus has gone retrograde several times since April 2019 when he dropped the laptop off.

BTW, he couldn't have done anything to clean up the laptop before he put it in for repair. The drive was dead. He likely trusted the shop wouldn't see what was on it. They might never have looked if he hadn't forgotten to pick it up and didn't pay the bill.

 

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It's real. One of the women in the video's happens to be his cousin Natalie..... Excitement  

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It has been confirmed by the FBI that the laptop is authentic, so that question is totally settled..... and it is loaded with stuff that only Hunter would have, including indecent pictures of Hunter with underage girls, and emails with Joe Biden and other people involved in the influence/payoff business....

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