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How to work 12th house Mars and/or Mars in Gemini
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I feel very challenged by this this placement. I am ashamed of myself for my lack of “work ethic.” I tend to indulge in escapism, and I’m very prone to distraction. I know I can be very effective when I get into a “groove” but it’s like I have no control of how to get in that groove. It usually only happens when I’m under pressure to complete a task at the last minute. I feel like I can’t get ahead in life because of this horrible time management problem. I am 31 years old with a really great work-from-home design job, but I know that I’m not as productive as I should be. I eventually get jobs done but not at the level of quality of which I am capable nor in a timely fashion. I’m also a talented artist and I’ve barely been able to finish any art work – for many years ! I literally have piles of unfinished pieces, and long lists of ideas for projects I want to start. Please help!!! Capture.chart_.JPG

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Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 12:44 pm
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Have you tried any type of self hypnosis techniques? I think working with the subconscious would be a good use of this placement.

An easy technique would be to write out everything you want to finish. Title the list “All of these tasks are completed with ease and on time” or “I trust that all of these tasks will be completed with ease and to my satisfaction in a time manner”. Something like that. Meditate on it and then put it somewhere special. And then trust that all of it will come to pass.

It bypasses the mind which might be your biggest hinderence with this placement. 

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I think the opposite house (the 6th) can help. Start simply by forcing yourself into a solid routine where you get up every single day at the exact same time, have a cold shower (cold showers energise you in the morning) and try and plan some structure into your day. You will fight against it and you will feel yourself wanting to procrastinate or wanting to sleep in a little longer but you have to resist. You have got to make yourself adapt. It can be done. Once you do it long enough your new routine will become fixed and natural for you and that will really help to “awaken” your Mars- allow you to summon up that ‘last minute deadline’ rush of energy when you need it. I think implementing some exercise into your daily routine can also help with a 12th House Mars- if you don’t do that already smile 

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I have a 12th House Pisces Mars. I’ve had a strange time with it but can see the benefits of it clearly. It’s been just that it’s a constant race between the “pros” and the “cons” as I constantly gauge how I’m doing with my Mars. I’ll just tell you the pros as I can see it.

+ Super… good… on your feet!

+ Pretty much spot on right about the boundaries that need dissolving; I bet a Gemini 12th would be even more nuanced, being mutable and in the realm of air. With my water sign 12th House, I am usually deeply affected by divisions that I see as wrong and harmful b/c an amount of empathy kicks in. I bet an air equivalent of that would help to stay rational about what to do about it.

+ We definitely see far. Our intuition is unbeatable, even by the 8th. I have a lot of 8th and 12th House in my life, and just recently pondered if the 8th House sees the 12th House with as much gravity as most people just see the 8th House. You’re very aware during this stuff since you have a Mercury-ruled sign there, maybe like having a front-row seat to the dissolution of reality. That’s been my feeling with my 12th Mars.

Hope some of this this resonates. It’s a weird place (12th H) to constantly exert. I am also an artist and hater of time, and can only also submit… that you are perfectly fine and it’s outer forces that are anti-creativity, burdening creative effort with mechanized standards that seems to have warped most of our species’ mind. Stay quality, not quantity!

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12th house Virgo Mars conjunct ascendant. One thing to try- look back and see where you have been strongly motivated in the past. Was it fear, competitiveness, injustice? Trying to get someone’s attention romantically? Health scares or concerns? 

They say that people are many times more motivated by avoiding something negative than by gaining something positive. 

Just some ideas! 

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Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 7:15 pm
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How to work 12th house Mars and/or Mars in Gemini

I have Mars in Gemini and I love it. (not in the 12th though)

I just have to make lists and work from them….calendars and lists are my friend. My Gemini Mars keeps me twirling several plates in the air at one time. And, I work hard. I always have. And, I finish what I start. I can hardly sit still at times. I love Gemini energy.

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Wednesday, July 11, 2018 - 7:26 pm
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Agree with LN. I’m not a 12th house mars, but do have a Pisces mars square a mercury in Gemini and I think the subconscious plays a huge role in staying afloat and productive for me. Mine, like yours aspects a Sag Saturn. So you do have staying power and discipline to draw from once you find a system that connects with yours brand of motivation; Your methods have to align with the energy of your mars.

I definitely swear by “programming” your mars since it has a tie to the subconscious.

Find a productivity system that you can swear by, but follow it like a spiritual practice or find something that has room for flow. Consider your energy like bowling. The pins are your goals, the lane is your energy, your methods should function like bumpers.  

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I have Mars Gemini in 11th.  I do find I need to settle down and focus to get work done, but this is more due to being interested in several things versus having a work ethic issue. I think my intense work ethic is due to Saturn, Moon and DSC in Cap and a busy 6th house.

To deal with my tendency to get scattered, I use lists; take steps to settle and clear my head; ask myself every morning ‘what are the three most important things I can do today’ and then allow myself to not do things that are not on that list.  I find it hard to meditate but when I do, it helps a lot.

Hope this helps.

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I have Mars in 12th, in Libra! the worst place for Mars, IMO. (“Passive Warrior” schizophrenia…) I sure know what you’re talking about!

I have the same problems except that my job cannot allow me to dawdle – the deadline is the deadline, no ifs or buts.

The only thing that works is that I tackle the projets like a challenge, a problem to be solved and I have to find solutions. However, that is not something I do on command, it’s more like playing a (serious) game I have to win. (My Leo Sun maybe?)

Ditto LeoSun about scattering, list-making and keeping daily stuff to priorites – I do  that too (or try!). Scattering is horrible. I get bored easily, so my brain is all over the place & I have to re-direct myself all the time. The lists do help to keep focus.

So, basically, I manage as long as it’s my work, but for personal projects I hardly ever make it. I have same problem starting things & not finishing. I guess I lack energy/drive and can’t do it all, so I choose work.

@kumquat says: “They say that people are many times more motivated by avoiding something negative than by gaining something positive.” HOW TRUE!!!!!

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I have a 12th house Mars in Taurus and I understand. I set alarms on my phone to tell me what to do when.

Take this test and see which of the tendencies you have, that will help you achieve more once you understand yourself.

https://www.surveygizmo.com/s3/4232520/gretchenrubinfourtendenciesquiz

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Thursday, July 12, 2018 - 10:20 pm
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Thank you all for the kind and thoughtful repliesheart

I haven’t been able to compose a response to each of your suggestions, but not for lack of trying. I wrote pages actually, but it’s just a pile of nonsense until I have time to revise and clarify what I mean. My mind is a big jumble, I feel overwhelmed, and may be having panic attacks? I might need to find work that is not so mentally challenging. My memory is so bad, I have lists and calendars everywhere. I use alarms on my phone a lot.

I’m struggling. It’s the feeling of life passing me by. I’m not sure that my predicament is totally unrelated to a traumatic brain injury over 10 years ago. Reading other people’s stories of TBI make me burst into tears. I hate to peg myself with a condition or claim that I have an excuse not to work hard. But it is comforting to hear that other people have felt the same way I do.

https://www.brainline.org/people-tbi/managing-symptoms

My accident involving head/face injury and drowning was right around Pluto transit to my Uranus/opposite my Mars. 

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Thursday, July 12, 2018 - 10:52 pm
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Coco don’t worry about responding to mine if its going to stress you out. You sound very stressed out. Im sorry you’re struggling. I struggle too just with different things and I haven’t had a brain injury. heart

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CocoPeaches, same here, though my 12th house Mars is Capricorn. 

Scattered, escapist, distracted, no self-discipline. I needed the structure of a job in a workplace.  Could you adapt  your current work to an actual workplace and thus eliminate all the more interesting or fun distractions and freedom to avoid working?

I’m Very productive under the gun (fear) or chasing a prize (money, information, etc.) 

On the occasions when I can make  myself start doing the least objectionable task I can keep going for hours and accomplish so much — the groove!

Observe what motivates you to act.  What do you do with your time when you should be working, and why?  What would you be doing all day if you never had to work? Perhaps your Jupiter and Mercury hold the key…

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Ditto LibraNoir Coco, take it easy – you don’t have to respond so formally!

Funny thing I was thinking about you this morning as I was trying to plan out my day.

I was wondering where your Mercury is. I see it’s in Gemini, so I suppose that might lead to flitting from one thing to another, thoughts activities etc. Mars is action, but probably needs Mercury to do things rationally. Well, Gemini Mercury has qualities too! Probably great for creative things, but too many perhaps? HHHmmm, and Moon opposite Mercury, would that be your emotions getting in the way of your intellect?

Saturn opposite Mars is probably a drag. Uranus opposite Mars probably does things unexpectedly & impulsively, but is that necessarily bad?

I don’t know why you have the fear of life passing you by, you’re only 31 years old. For some people it takes time to evolve/organize into a life situation where they can feel stable or at ease or whaterver it takes to be balanced.

But I understand that a traumatic accident can leave psychological/physical traces. If this is a big handicap, perhaps some sort of therapy could help?

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Oh gosh, I don’t need a response. heart

I would also check your progressions and solar return and see if you are having Neptune problems. Plus if you have good insurance then ask your doctor if there is anything they can help you with. Sometimes it’s a simple fix that would improve your life.

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