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Isabella123
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kab said
I have moon, mars and NN in the 12th. My experience isn't that people don't notice me, but they tell me to get over it. I can't divorce my mother, but...

I also do fit the profile of not fully experiencing feelings about events when they happen. It's not until I'm alone and have time to think about an event that I can truly sit down and process what happened and figure out how I feel.

Kab, when I write invisible, I mean they don't see your true self.

In fact when I enter a room, I usually attract a lot of attention and I sometimes feel too much in the focus of attention. But then again, not in a good way. 

I met people in Germany who didn't even know me and they spit in front of my feet on the streets, calling me a "damn show-off," while the only thing I did was to dress in a quite eccentric way. And yes, sometimes I don't care if t pisses people off what I do. I cannot adjust very well.

 

Strawb. I agree with you. 12 house people tend to be very shy and it is quite annoying to someone who actually likes to "perform."

I applied for an acting education when I was 20 and it took me a while to get in.But then I loved every day of it and I still feel very comfortable and happy when i can "play, act". I guess it's my Leo North Node. But then again, it was never easy because of this extreme shyness and sensitivity. But when I realized Michael J., Madonna, Jimmy Hendrix, David Bowie had a strong 12th house ;-) ( i am not comparing myself to them though), I knew it can be done. Although when you look at these artists, they always tend to be "on the edge."

Michael J. was accused of pedophila and I know for sure from some industry people that this was a complete lie, the press and some industry people made up to destroy his reputation because he left Sony Music to become independent. Madonna is named the industry whore and Jimmy Hendrix died due to an overdose. There is a lack of control and misunderstanding, they seem to attract.

I personally actually feel more real and visible when I can express myself artistically. Acting is one way because I never feel I'm acting, but express one of my different characters. And that is maybe the ability to take on so many contradicting personality traits that it literally confuses people. They don't see who you are.

You literally suck in other's emotions, moods and sometimes have an uncanny insight into their darkest, hidden secrets and can become THEM for a few moments. Difficult to express what I mean.

There is a very strong insecurity that is attached to 12 house people. They tend to see the world in a different way. A bit like a schizophrenic, just being able to hide it from people. It is as if they have one foot in another dimension and you never know if you are becoming crazy and who you are able to tell about all these things you experience.

For example, one of my longest friendships is with a girl who also has a strong 12 house with a lot of Virgo, hell she's so grounded, I love her.

And though she has a lot of earth, studied law, aims to be a judge and you would never think she is unrealistic in any way, she was seeing ghosts and spirits from her early childhood on. She told me how she once saw a strange boy, standing at a crossroad every night and after a bit of research, we found out that there had been an accident years ago on exactly that road. And a little boy died in it. 

We sometimes were watching TV together and most of the time we completely agreed about people who were lying on TV or some big fake, made-up media stories f.ex. Natascha Kampusch in Austria. We usually looked at each other and said:"Why does nobody see that these people are lying?"

But then again, maybe because 12 house people tend to think they can se the truth more than others, they also can get trapped by some really good deceivers who have their act together (plutonic people f.ex. because you usually think they are deep and love honesty).

That's why the 12 house is an insecure place. You can have incredible insight and see underlying truths, it just doesn't work all the time and sometimes you are so completely mistaken. Again, you can't control the 12 house. If it wants to take a day off, it will do so and you don't see nothing of its basic gifts.

Also, and that is essential-- YOU CAN'T, and I have seen that true for many people,

You can't use it for yourself. You have to give them to the collective or use them for a higher purpose. It's the place where your ego has already died (terrible for Aries, and Aries planets in the 12 house more easily attract mental illness -- usually Borderline or manic depressive). You already live with one foot in the other dimension. I still don't think it is great if you want to enjoy a good life on earth.

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Oh what I wanted to add. When I was acting, I got panic attacks while surrounded by a small crowd of people (fear of public speech and presentations is very common with House 12). Large crowds work easily, but if it's just a few people, it takes away the focus from myself. The closer this people are, the more I have problems to separate my energy from theirs. I use to think their thoughts, too and well, not good for an acting job.

The easiest seems to be camera work. That indeed goes amazingly well and I love the camera (while many people seem to be afraid of camera acting). The camera is one of my best friends.

When I focus on a camera, small crowds of people don't confuse me. I can switch off everything that distracts me. I also tend to have a relationship with material things, like talking and caressing my car, telling things that I love them. I feel somehow that everything is alive--a bit like an autist. Though I am not an autist;-). God, that is so strange and I wouldn't tell that to anyone, if it wasn't in an anonymous forum...haha.

A lot of these challenges resolved when I left Europe and my birth place.

In the US I feel so much more confident and grounded. I feel that I am finally allowed to shine and don't feel guilty for it.

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I have Aries Sun and Aries Mercury in the 12th house and my mental health is excellent.  I suppose I could fail in that area at any time but for the most part, my 12th house is operating just fine.  I have good aspects.  The thing I find most 12th housey about me is that I require alone time.  I'm not happy if I'm not by myself a good portion of every day.  

An interesting thing that I have noted is are 12th house suns who have run countries including Tony Blair, Vladimir Putin, George Bush #43, Gordon Brown and Ariel Sharon's sun is on the cusp. 

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Cameo82290 said
I have Aries Sun and Aries Mercury in the 12th house and my mental health is excellent.  I suppose I could fail in that area at any time but for the most part, my 12th house is operating just fine.  I have good aspects.  The thing I find most 12th housey about me is that I require alone time.  I'm not happy if I'm not by myself a good portion of every day.  

An interesting thing that I have noted is are 12th house suns who have run countries including Tony Blair, Vladimir Putin, George Bush #43, Gordon Brown and Ariel Sharon's sun is on the cusp. 

I apologize Cameo822990 if what I wrote sounded off. Of course not everyone who has planets in 12 has mental problems. However, it is said to be the house of imprisonment and mental institutions. I personally believe due to misunderstanding these people. David Bowie for ex. was living in constant fear of becoming schizophrenic and I have always seen a very high vulnerability in those who have a stellium in 12. Maybe 2 planets are still fine and it depends what you actually aim to do in life. I also think one planet isn't that bad at all. But 4-6 planets...i don't know.

I guess it's also how well they're aspected by other planets. I personally do not want to have my mars and venus in 12. I never ever had a good partnership in Europe. Not once. I had to wait 27 years until I moved away to see that real love and closeness actually exist. Yes and I blame it on Venus in Piscies :-) in house 12, squared by Neptune. I really do not need more Neptune on my Venus...love was only existent in my dreams. I personally experience Neptune as a malefic planet. I know a lot of people don't. I love Uranus and even Pluto, Uranus has always been my lucky guy, but Neptune just seems to take away everything, wanting to make you a monk or whatever. I see so many people with strong Neptune being taken advantage of, especially when it comes to business matters. As an artist it is nice, but if you can't materialize your art because you can't manage it as a business, it doesn't help you that much. The nicest thing is if you can actually make money with what you enjoy to do and don't need to have a 2nd job on the side.

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Isabella123 said

You literally suck in other's emotions, moods and sometimes have an uncanny insight into their darkest, hidden secrets and can become THEM for a few moments. Difficult to express what I mean.

That's why the 12 house is an insecure place. You can have incredible insight and see underlying truths, it just doesn't work all the time and sometimes you are so completely mistaken. Again, you can't control the 12 house. If it wants to take a day off, it will do so and you don't see nothing of its basic gifts.

I have several planets in the 12th, most notably my Sun is peregrine there. Quite literally everything, except Saturn and Uranus make contact to Neptune (which is on my DSC) in my chart, and my MC is in Pisces. I wasn't able to resonate with most of what you were saying (I think it could have to do with the fact that I am also incredibly Mercurial and Saturnine). The above statements, however... do resonate.

I think the essence of "unlocking" the 12th house is... well?... you can't. It is a culmination of all of the energies before it. It is not of this world. We are too pedestrian to fully embrace it. We glimpse at the divine, but can only utilize it's gifts as long as we remain humble. The incredible insight dissipates as soon as you become too sure of your own knowledge. A 12th houser is tasked with what seems like the impossible: be aware, be mindful, but don't try to hold onto anything. Don't grasp too tightly. If you do, it will slip through your fingers like sand. It's meditative; quite literally. You will forever be at odds with your ego, as long as you battle this. Insecurity and self-esteem issues are the result.

As for feeling others' feelings... it is a lack of boundaries. That is base Neptunian energy in action. It's cool and interesting until it's not. Wilful ignorance and/or development of stronger psychic boundaries are vital. If you don't cultivate that (preferably the latter)... one day... someone is going to get inside that head of yours and swirl your brain around. They'll break your heart and your mind. I've seen it happen, I've done it, myself, and I've been the victim. Not a pretty situation.

The other problem is that you cease to know where you leave off, and another person begins. You merge with someone, and part of them *becomes* you... or vice versa... or both. Then, your identities are compromised. In measured ways, this kind of merging can be a higher octave of love (as Neptune is known to be), but being measured is scarcely ever the domain of Neptune or the 12th.

 

just my 2c

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I also do fit the profile of not fully experiencing feelings about events when they happen. It's not until I'm alone and have time to think about an event that I can truly sit down and process what happened and figure out how I feel

 

I relate to this. I have a taurus moon in 12th and it feels like Im never really living in the moment. 

 

You literally suck in other's emotions, moods and sometimes have an uncanny insight into their darkest, hidden secrets and can become THEM for a few moments. Difficult to express what I mean. 

 

I find myself automatically responding to their inner needs or messages, i read people more than actually listen to things they say.

I think a 12th house person has to be careful who they let in. More often we end up serving those who dont have our best interest at heart

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