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Yesterday in one of the chats on this forum I realized I don't know enough or understand how current transit affects my natal chart. I'm posting my chart in the hope someone will see what transits are impacting me, is Saturn-Uranus sitting heavily somewhere, some long transits I'm obviously not aware of, any insight would be greatly appreciated because I really need to understand why I'm stuck, why do I feel so heavy, like nothing will change, tho deep down inside I know it will, but I feel like I've been stuck for years now. Thank you in advance!

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I think you are more impacted by Pluto in Capricorn than by Saturn Uranus. It's squaring your natal Pluto and pulling in your Cancer planets as well.

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@elsa how long this transit lasts? Did you ever cover the topic of this transit on your blog so I could learn more about it?

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@dori Pluto moves very slowly.  Pluto in Capricorn is a grind and put tremendous pressure on Cancer, particularly in 2019/2020 when Saturn joined the party.

I have written extensively about Pluto in Capricorn but in general terms, for the most part. It's worth a search. Good luck!

Edit because I forgot... your Pluto is @ 29 degrees. When Pluto gets a few degrees into Aquarius, you'll be clear. This will take a few years. However, you've likely seen the worst of the transit already - the lowest low. It's just you can't get free of the grip of this, quickly.

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@elsa Thank you! Yes, I felt the burns of Pluto in Capricorn, all I can say, it keeps burning and it's leaving deep marks. I meant how long usually Pluto squaring natal Pluto lasts?

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@elsa Thank you for the edit 🙂 Yes, you are right, I've been and seen the worst. Okay, I can and will endure it. With ups and downs, but I'll do it.

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@dori Saturn has been transmitting your 3rd house since 2020, so the sense of being stuck is likely a perception as Saturn can affect your thinking, mental processes and communication when in this house, causing blockage, limitations, obstacles... in this case in your mind or thinking and communicating, so you may also feel a bit depressed. You have Aquarius ruling this house natally so I'm guessing you are normally quite an innovative, open minded, free or original thinker, perhaps you have visions or awareness that is uncommon. This would make it harder to bear the stuck, stagnant thoughts that come with the transit. Be aware that it is a perception and try to find ways to tap into your less limited inclinations, perhaps via meditation or journaling - free writing, to relieve the tension. 

Saturn by transit is squaring Uranus in your 6th.It made me feel like you are ready to shake up your routines, daily ways, to be more changeable and innovative there. Just be aware that your perceptions are being burdened by Saturn, but the process will help you define how you truly perceive or think about things, your own ideas. I would focus on any ways you can innovate or are innovating in your daily life, including work, as this will alleviate sense of stuckness and show you that change is possible. You may be projecting your need for change onto your bf due to Mars' involvement with Uranus atm by transit, also because 6th house conjoins the descendant. Try to focus on your own activities and how you can make a fresh start in how you run your daily life. It's a heavy transit but you can make breakthroughs which are more authentic to you as a person. 

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@sophiab thank you! When you put it this way, yes I could say that my perception is affected, very much. It's transiting since 2020? I thought it started last year. Can you see how long it will be in my 3rd house? 

I shake my routines by making new ones. I feel it's a never-ending story with my routines. I like structure because I had so far a very unstable life, a lot of unexpected hard situations and by making a routine, it's like I try to make some safe space. Yes, it sounds right too, I want a change and I want my bf to be a part of that change, maybe that's why he's pulling away. 

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@dori Saturn entered Aquarius 2020, but yes, hit your 3rd h cusp exact around Feb 2021. He leaves Aqua for Pisces 7th March 2023. He'll be in your 3rd but in Pisces until mid April 2024, although the quality of this transit will be different from Aquarius.

Don't know if you've used an ephemeris, it's a way to track transits by degree in the signs, you can explore them by year here: https://cafeastrology.com/ephemeris.html

Just find the symbol of the planet you want to follow at the top, and in the table beneath are the degrees it moves and dates by month at the side. It shows when the planet stations, go retrograde and direct. You can compare these with the degrees of your houses and angles, etc to get a sense of duration of a transit.

Regarding the detaching bf, its possible its the Mars (masculine) Uranus conjunction at work. As Elsa recommended, best to also practice detachment and give lots of space in relationships atm! 

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@sophiab thank you, you have been very helpful. For sure I will check ephemeris, I didn't know about it.

I will give space, for sure, I'm talking with all of you here, seeking some kind of solution and advice, but actually, I gave a lot of space, he has Aqua Sun and Mercury, and Moon and ASC in Gemini, he hates pressure, but maybe even I'm not saying much, my energy is projecting something else

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Hi Dori,

im not an astrologer, but I went trough Pluto sq Pluto in 2017. I also felt stuck. And really lonely, my bf was away for 2.5 month for work. I never felt so lonely at that time. But, the fact that my bf wasn’t there, the situation resulted in the fact that I moved in with him, unconsciously getting me out a very toxic situation. I remember after I’ve moved I didn’t know what to do. Huge change, but him not being there meant a blessing in disguises for other problems to be solved. If not for my bf and the situation then I wouldn’t have moved and still be 24/7 in a very toxic and draining situation. After that Uranus came to Taurus and opposed his Pluto and Venus. And he started with a debt program, he was in debt before he met me. There was change needed, and I just went along . 
I understand you want the change also to come from him. If I look at my own situation, we both needed space, not from eachother but from my living environment. And the transits started it and brought the change. I changed slowly ( still working on it) and I know even tho I’m under some big ass transits that eventually everything is going to be just fine. 
my dad is a sun Aqua too, and he don’t like being pushed, he needs his space, and his mercury in Aqua testifies for that. 
you do you! What is truly hurting? What is it that you need and that you can give yourself ? 
I see you have a lovely Leo moon if I look correct , go where the light is so the shadows can’t catch up my grandmother used to say. 
seems to me that you already had to deal with Pluto oppositions to your cancer placements. The Pluto square didn’t kill me. So it won’t kill you either. 
best of luck! And lots of warm hugs.

Carmen

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@carmen thank you for sharing your story and experience ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ 

I truly believe we also need a change in the environment, and we have all opportunities to do so, but he is resisting, something I feel like he's saying one thing, but actually doing nothing to really do so, buying time. 

What's truly hurting? The fact that I have no family, emptiness, loneliness that's so present after almost everyone is gone. My brother and uncle, have their own lives, they have families and kids. I'm sure they also feel the loss we went through, but they didn't come to an empty house, they still have their own families who are there, the one of my own that I wanted so badly for quite some time, long before any of this happened. But for some reason, this happened to me and I don't see the reason yet why is it like it is, but there must be a reason, even for me living by myself. Maybe to gain strength, courage, and true independence, not just in a financial way, but also in my mind. Just thinking out loud, your questions made me think 😊 

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@dori sorry I just read your reply!

dear dori,

I know how you feel ! I really do. But truely this moment of loneliness is meant to grow. I’ve been single for 6 years. And then out of the blue I fell in love, with the most wonderful man. And we’re going strong for nearly 9 years.
things can change in a heart beat for the better you know?  I’ve struggled worked my butt off. And there were so many times I just wanted to give up, give in. And without realizing I gave in. And I felt better. I was independent, I took responsibility, even tho I it didn’t feel like it. 

i had dreams, I wanted a big house , a yard. All the things, they didn’t came to fruition, all the things I thought I wanted. But now, I don’t want them. If I look at the market, look at the expensive groceries , I’m happy that I didn’t take on a huge mortgage. 
Im not rich, still struggling financially and working hard on myself in therapy. But I’m healthy, and it sounds corny. Starting small, step by step.

 

if you want to talk im here! You are not alone!

big hugs your way!

carmen 

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dear carmen,

I truly believe, that all this shall pass, things will get better and tho I don't understand many things at this moment, there will come a day when it will all make sense. Just sometimes, I feel desperation, and emptiness, some days I'm not so strong, and my faith is weak. And there are days when I just don't care, and then again, days when my faith is strong and I believe I will have a family again, my own family. But like you said, step by step. I'm grateful for every day. The worst loneliness is being alone but having people around you, so I feel change is approaching, and it has to come from me, which is hrad...

 

Thank you carmen! I would love to talk to you more! Big hugs to you too 🙂

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@dori 

my heart ached when i read your comment about Family. I have family but they are mean and toxic. And at times I felt so lonely , sure I live with my bf. But the comfort of family isn’t there. So I feel you. 
i guess you or better said we, we should love ourselves more. Giving warmth to ourselves. No one can do that for us. My bf loves me very much but I do feel lonely despite his love for me. The worst is over for you , you already had Pluto opposing your sun and Saturn opposing it. 

i have neighbors and their daughter absolutely adores me, she’s a refugee from Iran . And she said Carmen you are my best friend ( she’s 10 and I’m 43) she always hugs me and screams out of the top of her lungs when I come home and she sees me. And it feels warm and sort of family-ish. 

i had to heal my inner wound, not having a mother ( she was a severe alcoholic and abusive) I couldn’t get children and that made me for a while so miserable. 
don’t know what my future holds. But I know things will change, they always have . 
sending you lots of light your way and if you want to talk . Just yell. 

warm hugs!

Carmen 

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English is not my 1st language so excuse my spelling sometimes 😊

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@carmen it's not my first language, so don't worry about it, important is that we understand each other 🙂

I have family, but that's just a fragment of what we used to be, my uncle likes to say that our family shattered into a million pieces. death likes to do that. Or it brings those who left closer, or it drives them apart. In my case, it was this second. My brother has his own family, we are very two different people, maybe we share some parts of a character, but our way of thinking, living, our beliefs, are so different. His partner is even more different than me. Tho, she's just 2 months older than I am, but a typical "IT" girl, her rock in life is what she has, not what she is, my brother is the same. Money, money, jobs, success, that's what they like and especially, to give an opinion on how others should live. 🙂 I don't like that, but, who does? So, yes, a family of my own, my heart aches for it. 

I'm sorry to hear about your mum, I know a bit about it in the case of having a mother who drinks. And I'm so sorry that you couldn't have the children that you wanted. I'm a few years younger than you, and my heart is very sad that I don't have them too, and I can only hope I will have a child one day. Children and animals can heal a soul. But you have the love of your boyfriend, no matter when you feel lonely sometimes, you have it and cherish it with all of your heart, and the love of that wonderful little girl, children heal every broken heart 🙂

 

So Pluto was opposing my Sun and Saturn too, I didn't even know that, but it explains a lot. Pluto is hard, but Saturn, I have no words for it anymore, it will suck everything out of me 🙂

 

Thank you Carmen, you are a gem ❤️ 

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@carmen, do you maybe see when was Pluto and Saturn opposing my Sun? 

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  1. Hi Dori,

pluto started opposing your sun February 10th 2013 until December 2013, lingering back and forth between 9 degrees and 11 degrees, your sun is at 10 if I’m not mistaken. Then the following year it was still close but in separating degrees. 

in 2015 it began opposing your Venus. And in 2020 it opposed your mercury. 

i didn’t experience Pluto opposing sun, but I had Saturn opposing my sun in 2020. Thad was a very hard year for me, but it actually helped me out in leaving a very toxic and abusive situation. My mom passed away in 2020. But i haven’t spoke to her in 20’years so I was fine by that.

I mourned her 30 years ago after a childhood full of being beaten up and molested. For me the opposing transit Saturn sun meant going to therapy and start healing. 
my family were and are gaslighters, they kept everything under the rug due to the abuse and molesting. So I was glad to be rid of my family for once and for all. 

sure I mourn the fact at times that I don’t have family. But rather living without them and not be treated like s#%t than having them as my family.

im sorry that your family are what they are. It comes from insecurity I guess. My family are envious people, if they know your in trouble they are happy. If I’m doing good they are very envious . 
I’m not rich I just live a a simple life. Sure I would like to live a bit more comfortable, since my bf had to go trough a debt program. But I wouldn’t have it any other way. 
If I’m not mistaken you said your bf is an Aquarius? My dad is one, and he can be detached but he doesn’t do it on purpose. The good thing is my dad worries less than I do. Because of his detached state. 
you have sun, Venus and mercury in cancer so moon ruled. I get it that you long for a family. 
maybe transit Jupiter into your 5th house could mean a pregnancy? I’m not an astrologer tho. But I do know of some of my friends having 5th house transits resulting in pregnancy. 

If people measure what they have instead of what they are, that’s shallow in my opinion and materialistic. I have to be honest I was very materialistic when I was younger, but when the going got rough that stuff didn’t comfort me. 
I have Uranus in my 2nd house, so always ups and downs with income. I learned to live with that and drop the attitude of being materialistic. 
you’ll be fine honey trust me. With your placements in cancer you tend be a very emotional and caring person. Give the emotional care to yourself you deserve it. And when the time comes for a little baby you can spoil them with all the care you have inside. 

hugs,

Carmen

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@carmen oh yes, now it all has a sense... those years were really hard, full of obstacles and very hard and sad situations. Especially when Pluto opposed my Venus. But I still didn't have Saturn opposing my Venus? Or did that happen too in the last few years, or it's about to happen?

I'm sorry for your mother, no matter what you say you are okay with it now after everything that happened. It's always a process, no matter what has been between you too. My mother had a very toxic relationship with her mother, my grandmother. My nan just didn't love her, and even if she did, it wasn't enough. As her daughter, I saw what this kind of relationship can do to a person, and my mum was very, very emotional and sensitive, more than I am.

But I agree with what you wrote if a family is toxic, and envious, better to stay far away from them. respect who they are, but choose something better for yourself. My uncle told me last year: do everything you can so you can look at yourself in the mirror and lay in peace in bed every evening. You did good for choosing yourself and I believe simple life is the best, where you are free from every material burden, just living simple and easy, it can be a beautiful life and I'm sure you are doing much better now 🙂

Yes, my bf is Aqua, a very intellectual and rational person, sometimes I have a feeling he mocks my emotionality. But, I try to detach too. I need to because I can't have any more expectations from him. it will be how it must be, and I have to accept that. 

We all need to find our way, as you did too. To be happy and at peace, and I envy people who always have life in order, who have a normal path, normal life. I never had that, and simple, normal life is something I would like to achieve. I thought so too, that when Jupiter enters my 5th house, maybe the baby will come. 🙂 My childish Leo can't wait to have a little partner in crime. 🙂

Do you think you will ever reconcile with your family? That one day will understand what they did to you and try to make things better? If that would happen, would you even reconsider forgiving or do you think people can't change?

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@dori 

saturn opposed your cancer placements already . 2018 until 2020ish.

the aqua seems to mock, but in fact it’s more out of not knowing. They are further removed from their emotions. I’m a Leo sun and my dad is the opposite, but we get along great. Not always but that’s more due to his impulsive behavior. I thought I read he has Gemini too? A lot of air to your water placements.

my bf is Scorpio sun don’t know his birt time, but his sun squares my Jupiter. His Pluto squares my Venus. But I don’t experience hardships with him. He’s just differently wired than me. He’s silent and I’m outgoing, or better said i used to be. I have Venus, mercury and Jupiter also in Leo. Don’t feel bold or sunny anymore I’m very serious in fact. 

when Saturn goes into Pisces it will trine your Scorpio placements and cancer placements so time for a lot of healing and easier times. Next year ! That’s why I said don’t fret. It’ll be alright. You choose your thoughts , and feelings are carried by thoughts. Find an outlet for buried feelings ( because cancer and Scorpio are known for carrying deep emotions) 

did you ever consider bach drops? They help me a lot you know? Search Google . 

With a Gemini NN I think your quest is to learn how to dialogue, mental thinking. Your chiron is also in Gemini also conjunct NN. Besides that you have Pluto in an air sign. To me it says you have to look at situations in both/different sides. Air signs are thinkers, and your cancer and Scorpio placements are feelers. Maybe your bf provides that insight . He’s air you are water. It could even make you a bit psychic to a point I guess. 

and with a lovely Leo moon you bring cheer to people. Be bold and strong. Some people tend to back down at Leo’s . But I am always told that the room lights up when I come in. When I’m happy I’m loud and outgoing. 
Your Pluto in Libra brings balance, balance your thoughts, when you balance them you balance your feelings. 
next year Pluto will oppose my Venus. Sometimes it scares me because i don’t know what It’ll bring. But i already had Saturn oppose it and I’m still alive. 

no I don’t think I will mend my bridges with my family . They are outright toxic and mean. Gossiping behind my back. And saying awful things about me, who want to contact such people ? It’s ok I never felt better when I could finally close that door behind me. 

xoxo Carmen

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@carmen good Saturn finished with my poor Cancer Venus 🙂

Yes, he's mostly air, only Venus in Cap, and on the other side, I'm all water. I like his perspective, but you can see our differences because when we talk, I start with 'I feel', he starts with 'I think' 🙂 Okay, I can do all of this until the next year, but to be serious, I can do it, all together, no matter how long it takes. 🙂 I'm a resilient person and I'm able to endure a lot. Yes, I do have psychic abilities and when I'm feeling fine, I like making people laugh with some drama and childish things, I really love my Leo Moon, and I love Leos. 😀

When you wrote that Pluto opposed my Venus in 2015, that year was my knock-down year. My ex left me in February, it was real ghosting,  and in April I came here seeking help, and answers. His betrayal broke me more than the death of my parents, I think I never really recovered from him. It was one of those once-in-a-lifetime love stories but ended because a family in some cultures comes always first. But I also started a new job, and a new relationship, I met my best friend, and honestly, thank God I did, she saved me in every single possible way.

I will check for bach drops, thanks! 🙂

I asked about your family because I'm always curious what brings people together, what tears them apart and still, tho they are our blood, it's strange for me that your own blood can be so cruel. But I think you did a great thing moving away from them, no one needs to live in a toxic environment. With Pluto opposing your Venus, you will be fine, don't worry at all. Now, after the astrology lesson you gave me when I look back, you can do it. Maybe it's going to be a bit shakey, but you can do it. After all you've been through, don't ever doubt yourself. And you are a Leo, Sun will always find a way how to shine your way. 🙂 And even if it doesn't, still you remain a Leo, you will shine your own way, as you already did. 🙂

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