Difficult Saturn aspects in a natal chart
I too have prominent Saturn: opposite Sun/Jupiter, square Cap Asc, square Uranus desc.
It means you are here to:
You cannot get away with anything. So! Do good. Be good. Help. And mind your boundaries. (Yes, there's the rub!) Do not ever fudge with the rules! (Ask me how I know this...)
the best part is that if you follow those rules, the older you get, the better it gets. Everything Saturn gets better with age. Yay says the old lady. Yay!
I have Saturn in Gemini in the 4th opposing my moon and midheaven in Scorpio in the 10th. I am a lifelong depressive and as bitter as they come.
And I have never been able to relate to people who say helping others helps them feel better about their own lives. I like to do what I can and am glad if someone has things a little happier or easier for it. But personally happier? Not at all.
Going through all Saturn posts. I would like to reopen this one by asking advice for how to best manifest my Saturn in Scorpio. It is conjunct my natal Mars by wide math (5 degrees) in my 3rd house, which is important for me because Mercury is my chart ruler.
Do you think the worst of Saturn-Mars conjunction applies in my case? What's the way to overcome the challenges it presents?
Other aspects to Saturn:
My youngest son has this. 1 degree orb.
I will tell you a Mars conjunct Saturn story about him. When he was little we went to an easter egg hunt. There were at least 100 kids there. He was so excited. He had his stuff ready. He was in position... on your mark, get set, GO... he shot across the start line and was ahead of everyone and it looked like he was going to be the one go get his hands on the golden egg. He had this all planned out. He was in front of everyone....and then, hesitated.
That hesitation caused him to stop completely, come back without a single egg. And, he refused to turn around. Whatever fear hit him and caused him to hesitate for a moment ruined the whole thing. He was pissed the rest of the day and made sure he ruined Easter for the whole family lol.... have you ever driven your car with the brakes on? This is how I observe him. His is in Scorpio also. But he has no other negative aspects to this conjunction like an opposition or a square. He has a strong Mars but with Saturn right there it seriously looks like he is driving with the brakes on. Cautious with some things I have always known he is quite capable of doing (but you can't say that to a kid, ridicule like that) (he was a hell of an athlete)
He has also been the person that does his undoing...and he can be downright mean and nasty at times. Angry, full of revenge, resentful and impatient. With a Gemini stellium imagine the words that come flying out of his mouth. Many a physical fight has had to be cleaned up over the years, him left without a mark on him. I have been told when you put Mars and Saturn together you get Pluto on steroids and they being in Scorpio might be true. So, anger held in (saturn) until it bursts and makes a big ol' mess everywhere. I was just on the receiving end of some of it and I cut him off at the knees...because, it was unwarranted. I am a little ashamed but this absolutely called for the use of all of my Scorpio bits. This is unusual for me because I have always let him release pressure ....I have been the safe place to vent. But it got out of hand and for the first time in a very long time I took immediate action.
He has been my biggest challenge in this lifetime. Don't get me wrong, I would die for him without hesitation, but he has challenged me for 35 years. And, don't get that wrong... he's the first person who would be there if someone hurt me. He is so frustrating. You'd think I'd be used to it by now.
I have also watched him be the one of the smartest and most responsible people I know. More responsible for his children than their mother is. Sitting down every night after he cooks dinner to do homework with each of them. He was an honor roll student every year of his life. He has the strongest work ethic. Highly competitive. Today he is a top earner and while he pushes with that Mars (ruthless at times) he is a saver of his money. If he lost his job tomorrow he could go without one for a couple of years and be okay. As he has gotten older he has found a way to use it at work to climb to the top of his game.
When he vents I listen and then say...you know what to do first. Before you make a decision or do another thing... and that is running. He has always been a runner and a lot of exercise seems to keep him from going off the reservation.
This is just my observation of a child I put here ... when he is good he is very very good, and when he is bad he is terrible. But, it hasn't kept him from being successful, having a family, wife, children, nice home.... it's a difficult aspect but you can be very successful with it.
Thank you for sharing your son's story Soup. I can relate, though I am not nearly as driven. Or so it seems to me. I am more of a homebody who ended up having a career. My core needs still need to be met at home.
I wonder how your son feels about and does in intimate relationships. I know, a bit weird for moms to think and talk about. Skip it if you prefer.
Relationships have been my achilles heel and I can't seem to have the best of both worlds - stability and passion. When I was younger, I would meet these people i fell wildly in love with, but it never lasted. Then I met my husband and got married. Its been blissful, but I never have had the same intensity, even from the start. I wonder if everyone has the same experience.