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Death of Work - Pluto In Capricorn

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I have quite a few crypto-millionaires for clients. I also have parents who children who are deep into crypto. They wonder if they should worry or wade in.

There are also a lot of people investing in the stock market right now... I think people have been at home for a year and hope and believe they can live off profit made trading stocks?

My point is, these are people who really don't want to work at regular jobs.  And I am not sure there will be "regular jobs" if the world remains on lockdown for an even longer period time.

It seem the fall / winter will be vicious, with inflation being more of an issue each week. Evictions and repo on houses will begin in September. I recall the last period like this. I wrote about it. I walked through my neighborhood to see people's belongings in the front yard of their house.  Kid's toys and stuff.  No more stimmies..

I know some people think we should not be working, at least in the way we have throughout our lifetimes.  There should be no more internet as it's bad for society. So there would be work... but you'd be gardening or canning or bartering. 

Have you noticed this? There are legions of people who simply don't want to work. I don't think I am one of them but I may be. I might like to study. Just go full blown into being like my grandfather.

That's him in the 1930's.  He worked sunup to sundown but only his own deals... he was in his 50's when he quit the university where he was a professor.

If no one works, you're not going to be able to go to the store and buy things. We've been having slaves make our phones and sew our clothes for decades. I wonder how it will be.

Will people go back to work?
Will there be jobs?
Will they be able to handle a job?  Too old? Too sick? Unskilled?

Maybe you think nothing has changed.

So what do you think? Have your views on work changed with Pluto in Capricorn?

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I have been earning money for since I was 13 and lying about my age to work in factory job shops. I have a lot of Capricorn. My husband and I have been looking forward to retirement, saving, contributing to our pension, paying off the house etc. We are really close to the finish line.  I really want to indulge my Sag Moon/Ascendant and travel a bit. I would then like to settle down and hobby farm and meditate. Who knows if this will pan out. If there's a collapse our pensions maybe in trouble. That pisses me off! 

 

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If I'd been acting like a Cap Rising instead of an idiot -- Neptune 2nd house transit ongoing -- and had bought a few Bitcoins back when they cost $10, or had even jumped into the market sooner, I'd be set for life or at least slightly less apprehensive. 

Instead, if we end up like Venezuela, we hoarders of miscellaneous treasures will at least have stuff to barter.

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You lay out a broad scope of Capricorn in Pluto and my answer will be broad, too.

Like Henry, I stopped working in my 50's and starting doing my own work living on my 401 K, doing part-time work, and rebuilding my family home with my partner, but not yet, my husband. He worked at saving the termite-riddled house. I began my freelance writing career that did not earn a living. But it was the start of my life's real work. I worked at the writing and the digging into my pathology and the legacy of my culture which couldn't and didn't happen while I worked (retail and hospitality industries) These were the 1980's and 90's and retail was making a very big change from family owned to corporate buy-outs. 

I was part of the working generation who created the "selling" of 401 K to the working management ... this would change their retirement plans for the first time in business history! Hidden money. Promises for a future. Stock Market not savings accounts. I left at this point to find my life's work. 

Fast forward. I lost my health to environmental illness and specifically the use of Roundup, couldn't live in a house.The builder/worker man stayed with me and we married when I sold the family home he rebuilt. His life work has been WORK, PHYSICAL LABOR and the ability to transfer those skills to make a life has led us to 2021.

The resources for creating a complete re-do of the old ways came from the selling of my family home (that I shared with my brother). I needed to learn how to restore my health, and the life work I began including writing and unearthing my pathology and my cultural legacy have been the work individualized to gather real tools for a real soul and recognize what that work means. 

It's important we do realize the stuff we are buying have been made "for slaves for decades." How much of that do we 'need'? And how much of slavery do we want to keep carrying forward? To discover that you have to know what you do need: That's life work.

Since Pluto has been in Capricorn, and crossed my ASC my views of 'work' have changed. Changed to recognize and value the skills that come from living them sunup to sundown. Henry style. I am this very weekend helping my son and his partner via the internet (the text, FaceTime, links) to manage their 9month old son's first fever. I have learned many practical people's medicine tools because it was the work I needed to know myself truly; without genetic or informational modification. My work was and is to know my real soul, and make room for my ancestral roots in the context of 2021's universe.

Long answer. "Work" has always been hard, and when we believe it can be easy we're in trouble. A diverse partnership with different kinds of people in diverse settings has always been a good answer. It ain't easy. And finding real people to either model or be part of your life is key.

My husband and I live on social security checks, just under $2,000 a month. We have to work at making our way very creatively. We're both in our 70's and all things considered? We would probably do (most of it) this way again. Great training, and applicable in so many situations. 

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I don’t want to work. I have to. I got free money for a year because my industry was shut down. I loved it (athough I understand all the results of that). The fact is that we live in an industrialized society and that’s been good for a lot of things and bad for other things. If people think it’s fun to be behind a mule pulling a plow, that’s fine but when you have to do that or die from starvation that’s different. 

Also, remember that show Dirty Jobs? 

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I loved my work. I was a tech worker and it was so much fun to implement new technologies that made things better. I'm retired now but it gives a lot of satisfaction to work. I think the work environment has changed though to a place where you are no longer valued as a person.

I want to go down in life as being good at something and making a difference in some way. Anything else, I don't care.

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 I think the work environment has changed though to a place where you are no longer valued as a person.

THIS. ^^^

Just today I was on a nursing forum, following a heartbreaking discussion on the absolute garbage conditions today’s nurses are working in. The thing is, Covid is not the reason they’re leaving in drones—it’s tone-deaf, self-centered managers and corporate people who literally treat them like slaves. I read about a hospital that had to set up tents in 108-degree weather to create extra spaces to treat all the Covid patients coming in. The staff called their manager to ask her to bring chilled, bottled water so they wouldn’t collapse in the heat. She said she was getting body work done on her car and couldn’t come. 

WTF!!!

At some nursing homes, staff are drowning in work, while the managers are busy getting their nails done or going off to ride their horses! 

This crap was going on decades before Covid—healthcare workers being chronically short staffed, overloaded, taken for granted, underappreciated, treated like shit so healthcare facilities could turn a profit. It’s a BUSINESS now. All the pandemic did was throw accelerant and a white-hot spotlight on the problem (hello, Pluto!). Did hospital administrators, CEOs, managers wake up and see the light? NO!!! Some of did roll up their sleeve and help—many others are still garbage people and nothing changed. 

Y’all want to know why “The Great Resignation” is going on? What I described above is going on across other industries, and workers have had about enough. We are not even human anymore—just cogs in a wheel. Burn em and churn em. ? Businesses, especially hospitals, are watching seasoned employees walk right out the door, taking their knowledge and expertise with them. New people are now training other new people, without anyone experienced to turn to for help or advice. Think about how well that works out longterm. 

At this point, I’m just going to sit back and watch society collapse. 

 

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What companies expect from people today is inhuman. I look at some of the tech job postings and they are three jobs rolled into one. It just isn't possible for someone to know it all. Who wants to work like a slave at any job and be managed by people that could care less about you?

These employers deserve the "Great Resignation" from the American workers. I'm sure they think its no problem, they have outsourcing, but that has its own set of problems.

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The burn-churn dynamic became obvious as soon as employers started training management to communicate to staff in psychologically manipulative double-speak, expecting their ambiguous virtue signaling directives to create an army of robotic replicas. 

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