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Being Different/Always the Outsider

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(@thesecondphoenix)
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I've looked at your chart and thought about this for quite a long time. There are quite a few different elements and ways to handle this.

Because it's not easy. You have to consider the reality of those doing the excluding and you have to consider other environmental factors not related to astrology. For instance, I have type 1 diabetes and have controlled it badly previously, does the tension that shows up in my body language/ behaviour effect other people in a way that directly or indirectly contributes to any exclusion I may experience?

After my bloodsugars have gone down I simply have not cared so much about some things. So is there a reality where the one being excluded is content with the exclusion and just gets on with other things? Exercise as well helps with this. I have had tensions incredibly strong that I simply cannot get out of the centre of my focus but a good long time on the punchbag will get rid of this.

Also, of those doing the excluding are we to consider them positively or negatively? Have they tried to change the behaviour? Are they happy with their self image as bullies (because in groups sometimes people can be deeply, deeply unhappy with this perception and/ or reality)? Are they intelligent or not so intelligent people? Are they weak? Are they afraid? Are they uncivilised etc. I suppose your question was not about exclusion of the deliberate- bullying kind but more of the lack of connection kind but these are still things worth considering.

But from you, what I get looking at this chart is what do you want from life? Because for me, music being such a high priority I can usually forget social problems. People I would like to fit in with but don't, I can throw it off when I think of music, I feel it quite keenly when I have a problem with a musician, which is perhaps a little elitest. My focus is on my South Node at the moment a large part as well.

Your North Node is in the 7th house Capricorn and I wonder how you experience this? To me, just taking a complete pot shot guess. It looks like with the Sun in tenth and that Seventh house as it is you would do well in a position of authority.

It is interesting because I have a friend who has a seventh house north node who really struggled with bullying and exclusion and attended about 11 schools in three years. He has a very different chart to yours but the North Node is in his seventh house. Sun is close to the top of the chart as well. I have an as of yet unproven instinct it is largely to do with Sun- Jupiter. Jupiter being a social planet.

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People just act weird. Its hard to explain. They are either immediately super comfortable or are immediately uncomfortable.

Ill catch someone looking at me (men and women alike) and Ill look back at them and smile and they will fidget or change directions quickly. In a crowded place Ill either be the focus of all attention or ignored completely. 

In less casual situations its usually just them projecting onto me traits that they have no evidence of me possessing. Ive been labelled everything under the sun. In one day, Ive had two different people tell me that I was respectively, an angel and evil. These extreme labels. Ive been called crazy and Ive had people tell me that I was the most grounded person theyve ever met.

Those are some of my examples, without getting too in depth. I dont know what more I could offer you on the matter, except good luck and love yourself:) 

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That seems like it could apply to so many different people just because lol. I was hoping for something specific. ? Seems like you were saying, it may just be them projecting. Thanks for the advice! ♥️

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Thank you so much for your insights!! The exclusion I'm going through may be more related to my awkwardness and social anxiety/paranoia than anything else. But you're right, the factors that a person can control themselves is more important than the ones they can't change. Still, it puts things in a very awkward and tense light especially for those around and that can effect people's perception of you at work. Which is what disturbs me most.

I don't think you're an elitest. But it's awesome that you love music so much! ? Is there a specific instrument(s) you play?

I don't think I would do well in a level of authority-only because no one would respect me as they may look down upon me (or could just because I don't think so highly of myself). 

I was always very social, but in the last couple of years that changed- many things changed and effected me profoundly and may have triggered me to where I am today. 

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(@thesecondphoenix)
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Well then isn't this interesting. I said earlier are you expecting the astrology chart to show you a concrete solution because that's what you seem to be asking but what you are showing is a specific problem shown in the chart that might have a solution.

Uranus on the descendent is the kind of thing that would worry about/ process specific behaviours. One person/ character who I think summarises this although does not have a time on the birth chart so we can't say that he does have Uranus in the seventh house is Simon Baker playing Patrick Jane:

Youtube: TheMentalist 5.6 - Tell me.. What are you wearing [Link]

When he speaks to others it's all formulas! Perhaps the study of body language or similar social discipline would be useful to you. You have Venus in the eleventh house trine Uranus so understanding female 'office politics' might help you.

I would say this chart is fairly feminine in the "submissive" sense of the term in some ways. For instance, Cancer ascendant and Chiron emphasizing it, Libra Moon, Venus as mentioned in the eleventh house plus Mars tucked away in the twelfth. The obedience to the rules and social structures is, when not oppressive I tend to think, a feminine thing which is partly why Capricorn is a female sign, you have two collective planets on your descendent.

You didn't really answer my question as to what you are after. Which I'm fine with but... do you know? If it is not to climb higher in work matters, or to move toward a preferred career, then is it more in the housewife direction? Because I imagine socialising in the basic sense of the term would then be important if that were your goal. But a position of authority would give you a lot of soft social power.

I play guitar. I play on a pretty basic level used to like singing the songs but the basic chords have become frustrating for me recently and I'm moving in more of a Hendrix direction hopefully. I don't have the money at the moment for even a basic electric guitar but it shouldn't be long. Keyboard was very unsatisfying to me and violin I achieved a good level at but don't connect with emotionally, or also, I hit a kind of glass ceiling in the violin.

I was very inspired by the netflix show on Hendrix, Jimi: All is by my side. At the moment it is not a serious career option it's just something I love to do.

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So are you saying that my chart is showing a problem as represented by Patrick Jane in The Mentalist? How am I similar to him and what problem do we both have? 

What do you mean by understanding female office politics? I don't like office politics at all and try to avoid it because it gets very complicated, scheming, and sometimes messy and that irks me. 

Yes, I'm definitely submissive. It could be a cultural thing too.

I'm after freedom to do what I am passionate about, to not have to deal with petty office politics and fighting over dominance at work due to power struggles. I want to be able to feel like I can fit in with a company and the employees and not be outcasted by them when they choose to exclude only me from social events as a team. 

Guitar, violin and singing? Wow, you must be super talented! ? I can play the violin and a little of the keyboards and sing (pretty badly lol). What kinds of music do you prefer? 

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