Need some advice with this Saturn Return, and the Neptune placement. I’m a feeler. Very empathetic. intense. Trying to learn how to use supportive aspects and not focus or feel the difficult ones so much. Moon conjunct Saturn with 8th house squares have almost been my death with depression. I’m my own worst enemy.
What are my very supportive aspects, I can use while this Saturn Return runs through my life?
12-29-1962
Cumming, Georgia. Usa
11:15 am.
thank you in advance !
Need some advice with this Saturn Return, and the Neptune placement. I’m a feeler. Very empathetic. intense. Trying to learn how to use supportive aspects and not focus or feel the difficult ones so much. Moon conjunct Saturn with 8th house squares have almost been my death with depression. I’m my own worst enemy.
What are my very supportive aspects, I can use while this Saturn Return runs through my life?
12-29-1962Cumming, Georgia. Usa
11:15 am.
thank you in advance !
Hi redbird,
Jupiter in Pisces should be a very supportive transit while you’re going through your Saturn Return. After all, it’s your Jupiter return, too! Saturn is a strong influence in your chart—I wouldn’t doubt how profound your depression has likely been one bit. But Jupiter is also really strongly placed in your chart, being in its home sign AND conjunct your ASC—that’s an awesome placement. Some people would call Jupiter your chart ruler or ascendent ruler, but what that means either way is that in your chart, Jupiter trumps Saturn. All the times you’ve gotten back up after being seriously knocked down or that divine intervention or Angel on your shoulder? That’s Jupiter. And, people probably like you very much even during the times you find that hard to believe. I’m sure you’ll be able to spot more examples.
Over the next couple of years you’ll be ending and beginning two major planetary cycles with Saturn in Aquarius and Jupiter in Pisces going through your 12th and 1st houses, respectively. Think back to what happened the last times Jupiter was in Pisces (12 year cycles) to get an idea of what your JR’s generally look like and what you might expect out of Jupiter this year and in 2022. When you look back, you’ll probably notice these times have involved 1st/9th house matters.
There’s a wonderful opportunity here to come to terms with yourself in the kindest way possible. To let go and start fresh. You’re graduating:)
Hey! Wow. You definitely spoke so much truths! I’ve been hit hard since childhood but I manage to rise up each time stronger. So crazy you knew that. So- that’s Jupiter conjunct Ascendant? Interesting!
That gives me a lot to go study.
I sincerely appreciate your wisdom and kindness in helping me.
So you see where the eclipse hits my chart and any words there!
I was reading this again slowly. It’s really creepy how on point you are. Hard to understand how you said the reality of my life. And knew those random examples. Yep. I’ve had some crazy things happen that only my family knows about and they were most definitely higher powers involved and it’s been honestly going on my entire life. I’ve had some accidents that should have killed me but I came back from the dead, literally.
This has me thinking about my Pluto right smack on my descendant....is that good or bad?
I never thought to study my Jupiter aspects. Or the AC, MC, etc..
Can you please help me see where the eclipse will be?
I’m beginning to feel excuse oddly anticipating it. And I rarely get hopeful.
Thank you again for the information and insight!
If anyone else wants to add- I’d be most gracious, JoFrance is very smart!
Hopefully she will also chime in.
@redbird hey redbird, sorry for my delayed response, I’ve been under the weather and recuperating. I’m glad what I wrote resonated with you. How were these last couple days for you with the eclipse?
This is redbird. Thanks!
Hoping this works!
Is my Jupiter in my first house or my 12th house. I’m saying 12th?
Someone told me no, 1st.
You're changing, starting anew! Why am I saying that? Your Moon-Saturn conjunction is hit by trUranus, so you are already facing changes inside yourself. Jupiter does turn out to be a chance for a breather. It's not only the Moon-Saturn conjunction, though; Your Mercury is hit by transiting Pluto, which sharpens your intellect and reduces the tolerance for any kind of nonsense. It also sextiles your Venus, thus transforming your values.
I think the Saturn transit to your Moon will ease next year. Furthermore, I reckon that it's after the exact in degrees Saturn return in which the effects are mostly felt.
Thank you! I just saw this!!! I’ve never tolerated nonsense and as I get older I’m noticing it more.
I noticed you chatting on the music link. You really know your stuff.? You’re fun to read. Your writings are always uplifting and educational and I enjoy them.
You’re welcome to pick at my chart anytime. ?I’m just discovering the Ascendant, DC, MH.... and my south and north nodes * I’m learning - very slowly. ??
@redbird Thank you! Astrology has become a lifelong love... 14 years and counting (I'm 32). With astrology, I have the chance to see others without prejudice, it's just their chart and me, no biases. Heavy Metal is another love that struck me very quickly and it has been there since then (and of course my partner is a metalhead and of course, to be honest, I got into heavy metal because there's too many handsome metalheads to resist, my 7th house Venus conj Mars in Leo is triggered)!
As for the factors you mention, I will sum them up like this:
1. Ascendant: Our physical appearance. The armor that we put when sad or happy. Our outer self, our existence. E.g. Your Ascendant in Pisces indicates a changeable appearance and an apparent sensitivity (that doesn't mean you aren't really sensitive, it is simply what is shown first). Your Sun in Capricorn, though, along with your Moon in Aquarius indicates that you're a tougher cookie than people realize!
2. Descendant: What you look for in a partner or in business associates. How you act towards them. With Virgo in the DSC and its ruler Mercury in Capricorn 11th house, not only you can be a caring partner, but also a mentally stimulating, rather straight-to-the-point one, and you seek such people, too.
3 MC: The zenith of the chart, it depicts the career where you will shine the most. With its ruler Jupiter in the 12th/1st house, I think an academic job and/or freelancing will suit you the most.
4. NN & SN: SN indicates the strengths that can become weaknesses when excessively used. SN in Capricorn 11th house means that you are capable of working as part of a group, but it's not enough for you. Thus, the 5th house NN in Cancer means that you want to do something less detached that will please you regardless the interests of any group or the outer society, you want to create something. The key is to find the balance between the SN and NN, not to exclude the one for the other.
@redbird The lunar eclipse is happening at 5 degrees Sadge. If you look at your chart and find that sign and degree, you will see it's in your 9th house. Does that make sense?
Yes! Thank you. So that house is empty so probably means I won’t be effected much correct.
Thanks so much!
Actually, doesn't it square your Uranus and your Jupiter/Chiron? No idea what that means though.
Oh! I have no clue but I’ll go look. It’s crazy how much I’ve moved forward in my studies, to realize how far I have to go, actually. I wish we could have a thread where 2 of us just look at each other’s charts for a while and give insights. I’ve looked at mine so long I’m stuck. Like I’ve said earlier, I battle depression and always have, I believe it’s my moon Saturn conjunct. I’m just sooo tired of being depressed!!! It’s like I carry so much weight in my brain. ? I’ve done all the meds. They didn’t work.
I do love being engaged with mental work like charts. That does give me a relief if that makes sense. But, I only know so much astrology. I’m very kind and I’m very happy interacting with others over astrology. In my world, That’s not possible, so I come here to Elsa and read. ?
Learning is a lifelong activity, and very therapeutic. An empowering antidote for depression. ❤
@redbird Well, I think that either you will start a new course of study that you haven't thought of or you will complete such a process. I'd suggest that you pay attention to the December Solar Eclipse in Sag as it will conjunct your MC, because the studies you will take will advance your career. Are you thinking of changing careers? If not, remember you can do so. Find what rejuvenates and awakens your spirit and go ahead.